>Literally has a town called "Baaaah" in its lore
Tell ms how Hasbro was running Faust's vision again?
>>>/tfh/
>>25316701
I swear, it shoulda been called like Baaaangala, fuck you can work with a fucking sheep pun.
It has countless of towns named Baaaaah. That's the point, the sheep are retards.
>>25316722
It still is stupid regardless, just because it is justified doesn't make it any less cringeworthy or childish.
Why not just call every town, Town?
>>25316746
That's actually not a terrible idea.
>>25316701
>he doesn't like Baaaah
>>25316746
>childish
What else did you think it would be?
>>25316746
>Why not just call every town, Town?
Because that's more ironic and funny, and they clearly didn't want that. I bet they came up with the name, had a giggle, then rushed on with, "Yeah okay, whatever. We need to hurry and throw something out there or else they'll catch on we got nothing to show again."
>>25316753
Every town is called, Town.
>>25316701
Many of Lauren's ideas for the show were pretty bad.
>>25316774
I'd like to hear some of those anan.
>>25316783
Rarity would have had a catchphrase called "Tacky Tack"
Spike would have had a catch phrase "Holy Guacamole"
How about "Baaahbylon"?
>>25316810
Or Baaaaghdad
Or Woolumbia.
>>25316791
>Holy Guacamole
Spike has said this before.
>>25316783
Twilight becoming a princess. Pegasi popping helium. Generally episodes with "Lauren Faust" as the director.
>>25316841
But it's not his catchphrase. If Lauren had been fully in charge, we'd hear it every time he's an episode at some point, I'm sure.
Seriously?
>>25316701
>>25316774
Whoah whoah whoah did I just hear somebody saying that Lauren Faust is less than a stellar beautiful amazing and courageous woman?
Are you dissing your own creator?
Lauren Faust is an amazing visionaire with outstanding ideas which need support. She did not get the support she deserves and needs.
>>25317085
>Are you dissing your own creator?
I don't recall her birthing me. Nor any other living being.
>>25316860
Ewww
>>25317377
Exactly.
>>25317392
I know this is a side project, but Lauren is still putting in several hours a week working on a low budget, niche title.
Is she just that generous of a lady?
Or is there something wrong that the industry that she cannot get joy out of working on a far bigger project?
>>25317411
It's not that she's generous, she probably wants to prove she can still make good stories and all when given control. As we've seen, the lore and characters and all are pretty bad from this.
I'll wait for the official release to make my final judgement since anything can still change especially since this is the early stages of the game.
>>25317431
The characters are great, but the story and even aspects of the lore feel poorly developed, awkward in tone, or just uninspired.
>>25317553
I'll give you credit and say the character appeal is merely objective. I, personally, find them pretty shit, but that's me. The rest is spot on, though. It just isn't fleshed out or very well thought out it seems.
>>25316858
>Twilight becoming a princess was Faust's idea
nice bait
>>25317595
It is, just not an alicorn.
>>25316701
>not pony related
>>25316701
Oh my god - are you the same guy who couldn't let this go yesterday? Why are you so desperate for validation on your uninteresting opinion? I think "muggles" is a really dumb made up word but I didn't have some pathetic need to instigate a hate war on J.K. Rowling over it. Doesn't your mommy love you?
>Hmm I could fund a 3D game based on Equestria or an entirely new cartoon series inspired from the fantasy magical land of equestria.
>Oh my...
>Oh my god! Them's Fightin Herds, a shitty unimaginative 2D fighting game approved by Lauren Faust! HAVE MY MONEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJcippkGQIc
>>25317641
>this butthurt on opinion
The characters are too...animalistic for me, it makes them more difficult to relate to. It is incredibly awkward because these characters hit the uncanny valley (in terms of civilization and behavior) of being human like.
>>25317431
The character designs aren't bad, but fuck this lore sounds worse than Street Fighter (the original one), and that's saying something.
>>25317801
That is what I like about TFH lore.
The ungulates are smug dumbfucks, but they managed enough civilization that they don't need predators to thin out the herd. They still have their petty fights for dominance and all the rough edges that wouldn't fly in MLP.
It's not very pone-like, but is that really a problem?
>>25316701
>Tell Microsoft how Hasbro was running Faust's vision again?
so this is the proof that lauren shouldn't have all the control over a project ?
>>25318002
not without a team
>>25317944
SF1 had lore? I loved the story for Super Gem Fighter because it was so silly heck that game is arguably canon too.
>>25317411
Video games industry everyone, where half a million bucks is considered "low budget" now...
>>25317944
Assuming you're talking about SF2 (seeing how the first street fighter game does not even pretend to have a story), it sounds like a joke but real talk the story is pretty good. It's just that it's singlehandedly responsible for creating every cliche we have about fighting game stories today, so people have come to believe it's silly but back then having the tournament be nothing but a backdrop for all the unique characters and their unique motivations to do good in it (money to blow, money to support others, training sessions, fame, revenge, world domination, what have you) was a huge deal.
>>25318112
A little, it was supposed to be a world fighting tourney. But it's still better.
>>25318128
There was only the barest bones in SF1, though it did spin off into two series with better.
>>25318128
Is that supposed to be a joke? It really is low budget now.
>>25318183
No just contemplating where the world has gone wrong is all
>>25318198
Part of that is the complexity of the game (animation and game mechanics need to be spot on here), part of that is inflation, part of that is the way they received their funding.
>>25317606
You know the sad thing?
Another five years from now, people will STILL be repeating this tired old bullshit, and other gullible motherfuckers will STILL keep believing it.
>>25318219
I honestly don't get it. It's a team of 5 guys. Okay, they get contractors for some of the stuff, and okay, there's a lot of frames to be drawn. There's some licenses to be bought, all that.
But I mean, there's no marketing costs. There's no manufacturing costs (igg rewards not withstanding). These are what make a modern AAA game cost 100 million instead of 1. This case, apart from paying for some licenses, really all they pay money for is their own salary. Theirs and their contractors'. And let's be real these guys are not working on this 8 hours a day, this is not a fulltime thing for them. Sure they will devote MORE time to it now that they have the funds. That's cool. But I refuse to believe that they need 500k for this comparatively small project. It just doesn't fit left and right. 18 months seems like a cozy development cycle, and 500 thousand dollars seems like someone somewhere is making some REAL good money for working on this. REAL good.
>>25318304
>And let's be real these guys are not working on this 8 hours a day, this is not a fulltime thing for them.
This really sounds like one of those claims that require the "proofs", as that one meme says.
>>25317950
I guess it misinterprets what I like about the series. I feel like the world isn't relatable enough that I can totally empathize with the characters on the same level I could with MLP, but not different enough that I can view the story as kind of an omniscient outsider.
Without any characters meant for us to latch onto, the whole world becomes disjointed in a way that makes me not care for the characters. It is like trapped between Pikmin and MLP.
>>25318315
I don't see why the onus to "prove" anything is on me. I'm not saying I know the facts I'm just saying I'm really really suspicious, feel I have good reason to, and have been given no reason not to. The breakdown the devs gave for the budget was very unspecific, and the numbers seem very very generous to say the least.
I'm not saying this is a scam or anything. Just a bit of a ripoff. They could probably also very easily be making the same game for half of the budget.
>>25318355
Not to mention, they basically guilt tripped the rest of the people that were on the fence into funding it.
>>25318355
How much do you think each dev should make a year working on the game?
>>25318320
It's a fighting game, and not a corporate waifu simulator.
>>25318464
But people are all like "This is the next FIM"
>>25318379
I don't know, what do animators make? Programmers? 60k a year? 80k? Working 40 hours?
People use these numbers, scale them to the 18 months the devs named (we have no idea where that estimate comes from whatsoever!), and come up with crazy figures. Even making it seem like the devs sell themselves short.
But that's not how it works. These guys don't go to their office job 9 to 5 and then in 18 months, because of the expertly crafted minutely detailed game making schedule they've worked out one and a half year ago the game is finished. I mean, have you followed this project? I don't want to say rude things but let's just say, I question their ability to plan ahead a lot.
The real question you have to ask is, what's the combined workload for animating another 4 characters? Drawing up the stages, putting the values into your editors to have the moves behave how you want them to? How many hours do you think they will be working on this? 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, 4 weeks a month, 18 months? For 5 people? Think this is a project which takes up 14400 manhours...? Cause I don't.
What I want them to make is what they deserve for their work. And unless they can come up with a more detailed budget than "one third is for animation" I have a hard time seeing how they can justify these numbers.
>>25318496
I hate to say it, but these people are idiots.
No fucking way this is "the next FiM". The whole point of involving Lauren is to make it Absolutely Not Friendship Is Magic.
I very much appreciate it on that level.
>>25318543
>The whole point of involving Lauren is to ride FiM's coattails until the game is made due to a recognizable name
ftfy
>>25318557
You're not wrong, Anon.
Just misguided.
>>25318577
Doesn't make it any less true, sadly
>>25318514
Don't forget taxes, licenses, extra spare cash incase of emergency funds, backer rewards.
>>25318590
I want to see Lauren Faust's rebound ungulates, with all of the baggage that entails.
I doubt I'll ever play TFW^HH particularly often, since I don't really give a shit about fighting games, but I didn't have a problem supporting it and am at least going to try to enjoy the game and the setting.
Also, yes, it's pony related. The connection to Faust and the game's history suffices.
>>25318660
>Also, yes, it's pony related. The connection to Faust and the game's history suffices.
So is Pennyroyal Academy, then. Larson writes enough episodes and has been with the series for a while.
>>25318733
I have this odd feeling that a thread about Pennyroyal Academy might very well get shot down as too pony related outside of /mlp/.
>>25318749
Has anyone posted it in /lit/ to find out? I'm honestly curious now.
>>25316753
>childish
I thought Lauren Faust proved that just because it's "for children" doesn't mean it has to suck.
>three previous lore before reaching the goal are god tier
>After the goal all the lore are meh tier
Kek, faust don't need to put effort anymore, she already won
>>25316746
>TOWNsville
It's Faust's brand of humor, Anon. Get the salt shaker out of your asshole.
>>25317411
>low budget
>over half a million dollars
>>25318818
The sheep chapter had some quality control problems, but…
the sheep speak Kiwi English, and it doesn't have the same phraseology as international English. At least one bit I thought was bad grammar was actually Kiwi idiom.
Kiwi === New Zealand
>>25318633
These numbers obviously include taxes, I mention licensing and backer rewards in the other post.
"Extra spare cash" probably makes up for half of the money is what you need to understand. It's slang for "money we pocket because we can".
>>25316710
Baaaangladesh
>>25318829
>anything under a dozen million bucks
>not a low budget
>for a product that involves multiple persons and the means to distribute the final product
jobless underage child detected
>>25318846
>"Extra spare cash" probably makes up for half of the money is what you need to understand. It's slang for "money we pocket because we can".
Well, you're just going to have to show me how this is true, because I guess I'm just too stupid to understand. Sounds more to me like you're salty and looking for reasons to justify a conclusion you drew at the outset.
>>25318829
For games that aren't a solo outing, that use a licensed engine and has hired on an artist known for working on movies, it's pretty goddamn low budget.
>>25318932
It just befuddles me how everyone assumes they are not frauds by default. When frankly, crowdfunds are fraudulent by default. And they go out of their way to not let anyone know anything about how the budget is used, other than the barest of barebones information (which I think they are required to per IGG regulations).
Put this into perspective. They have the gall to say "this money is spare money". Like they don't even fucking come up with anything they just say they don't really know what they're going to use the budget for yet. That's in ADDITION to nobody knowing how the base funds are divided. Who's making how much for what work. And those numbers being questionable to begin with. In ADDITION to that they have money that they specify as "backup money". They already had a sum of their base funding goal specified as backup plan, and then there's even MORE of that now.
YOU give me one good reason why I'm not supposed to believe that's money for them to blow on drugs and hookers. Or, you know, whatever the fuck they want. Cause nobody is regulating this and people in here don't even feel the need to ASK. Not just that, but as soon as someone does *I* am the sucker? Give me a break. Seriously. There's some crazy naivety going in in here.
>>25318829
Made by a group of amateurs which only have to work on 7 characters's abilities.
With a copied engine from Skullgirls. With the shitty stolen gameplay from Marvel vs Capcom. No original mechanics or ideas.
No level design
No voice acting
No intense programming full of physics and optimization issues
No insane new-generation graphics
No professional sound editor and music composer.
No professional Disney animators.
Everyone including their grandpa knows thwt crowdfucking is a scam, all except for the valiantly stubborn bronies in denial
Ignore them anon. This fanbase is full of autisicc chucklefucks who would rather save a horse rather than a human being who happens to be their brother or father.
>>25319072
You didn't answer the query. You simply made a statement with the expectation that your opinion should be taken as gospel.
I'm not surprised, just disappointed.
>Arizona udder physics
umm, yeah, what are people expecting from this?
ITT: Salty /mlp/ anons
>>25318820
Craig wrote that, and the joke was that it was a city being called a town. There is an attempt at a joke there.
>>25319214
For it to be a fucking cow and not a bull that's mislabeled?
>>25319174
Okay so let me spell it out for you. I can not prove they are actually comitting fraud because if I could I would go to the police and not bitch about it on 4chan. There.
I just thought explaining to you that asking me to do that is asinine, but giving you reasons for why I live under the assumption, that makes more sense. But hey I'll go as slow as you need me to.
And now for the love of god explain to me why you're sucking their dicks and refuse to consider that the budget might be fishy, no matter how many signs point to it. I am looking forward to the game as much as the next guy. I'll buy it when it comes out! I'm a fan of fighting games and the characters look interesting too. It's just I'm not fucking blind and this is one of the most questionable crowdfunds I've seen in a while.
>>25319124
There will be voice acting.
I just read the extended Pom intro, and the idea of a ram heading a sheep conference and slamming his head onto the bench to use his horns like a gavel has me grinning like an idiot.
>>25319227
Arizona's a calf though, do calves even have udders that physics would have an effect on?
>>25319260
>Arizona's a calf though
so all the porn of alabama is basically foalcon? I guess that explains a lot
>>25316701
That is really stupid.
>>25318820
That is actually closer to Faust's style of humor. Naming a town just Town.
>>25319362
Germans have a city called pig town
>>25316701
I didn't think naming everything "Baaaah" was particularly clever, but it does drive home how dumb the sheep are aside from Pom.
>>25319072
>>25319124
>All these retards that has no idea of how game development works, time taken and etc.
>Muh kikestarter meme
Only retards thinks that crowdfunding is a scam and the only one that actually gets scammed are dumb shits like you who probably fell for a legit scam because you couldn't take 5 minutes to do some basic research before donating to it.
Look, scamming and making frauds simply is a huge fuck waste of time and anyone with a brain would know this if they even spent two seconds to think about it. To top it off, do you really think Faust would be involved if it was a scam you stupid fuck? Holy fucking shit.
Almost the only ones that actually can legit create scams are industry veterans with the name and fame to actually rake in cash from and even then there's this whole thing about your fucking reputation being destroyed among both your fans and publishers. You have to remember that you are, in fact, attaching your real name, info and bank account into this shit, it is more than possible to get your ass dragged to court for it too. And that's ignoring the fact that you normally have to actually have something to show before you can even hope of getting any larger sums of money, unless you got a name or brand backing it.
Thing is, you chucklefucks don't even have any goddamn examples to show, outside MAYBE Tim Schafer and MM9, and even then it has more to do with Schafer being a retard that are absolutely ass at money management and Keiji being a hack.
Don't you think veterans in the industry would've called out on Kickstarters and the like if there was any genuine attempt to scam? You know, the people that actually knows the time and cost of game development? It's not like it hasn't been done before either.
>>25319375
They didn't call it Oink.
neeeeeeeeeeeigh
>>25319414
This really crosses a line, it is almost too forthright to the point that it is distracting. It feels like the sheep should have been unable to take care of themselves.
>>25319236
I'm not sucking their dicks. I haven't given them a single red cent.
>no matter how many signs point to it
What. Signs. I keep asking, and you dance around the question like a fucking ballerina.
>>25319375
Every other german town is called x-town. That's what their naming conventions work like, sounds a lot less silly for natives of course. And there's only so many nouns to use I guess.
>>25319428
I get that questioning their upstandingness and the numbers they name is a cardinal sin, but all the name calling in the world won't change that they have not been particularly transparent about this entire thing.
>>25317595
I hate to break it to you, Anon, but it's true.
>>25319611
I don't get how the budget was determined, even with generous estimates I think it's overblown. Many people share the sentiment. Their "breakdown" is very inconclusive and they have shied away from answering any questions about it. And then a whole chunk of the budget ("backup money") doesn't even have a fixed use yet, which is not really how budgeting works.
I really don't know what else you're looking for. I can only point out a lack of information so much.
>>25319654
Five years from now, dipshits like you will still be saying this.
Five years from now, other dipshits will still be believing it.
I have more, if you still wanna go.
You know we've had people from /v/ coming in and telling us that people are over-reacting to the budget. You know it's a bad sign when /v/ is telling you you're freaking out too much.
>>25319733
I honestly wonder how many of the people claiming that Faust wanted Twilight to become an Alicorn and/or princess are just baiting and how many actually started believing it despite Lauren clearly having said she didn't want that.
Same with the whole "Lauren just created the characters and wrote the first two episodes. She didn't do much for the show's success" shit despite her and people in the staff having said in interviews how horribly this show would've turned out to be if she hadn't been on board. Sure, the guys running it now are responsible for it still being successful, but Lauren made it take off in the first place.
>>25319832
I was very unsatisfied when the dev did that writeup, it was a wasted opportunity to shed some light on their budgeting, and I am weirded out by the fact that people keep posting it as if it said anything of note.
I get that 75k is too little. And the guy who suggested that was being a dumbass. And yet I have no idea how they came up with half a million. Mentioning the fact that they have worked on this for free for so long multiple times, and talking about how developers shouldn't undersell themselves doesn't help either, it's not like people are supposed to pay them retroactively for the time they worked on this in the past. It sounds to me like that's what they expect though.
>>25316746
Do you not have a sense of humor?
>>25320325
What he said was kind of funny in a believable way? It seemed like a joke that sounded cheesy and didn't try to sound like something a 2 year old wrote.
>>25320440
Stop shitposting.
Ah, who am I kidding? If you were capable of that, you wouldn't be here.
>>25320549
The problem is it really feels so blatantly lazy that many can't even find it very humorous. It feels like something that someone who was legitimately retarded would come up with.
>>25320578
Feels lazy to you. Feels clever to me. Really plays up the whole "these sheep are the next best thing to mindless" angle.
>>25316701
Wow her writing has really gone downhill.
>>25316701
Yuck
>>25319613
It's one thing to be cautious inquisitive, but don't be a retard and pretend you are when you think people should be assuming they're frauds by default, so drop the shitty "Holier than thou" attitude, please. There has already been plenty of discussions regarding their budget and people that has been naturally cautious and asking about it without going into it with the attitude that they're frauds by default.
hello /v/, nice to see you, how the indivisible crowdfunding campaign going?
>>25321761
Great.
>>25321716
>There has already been plenty of discussions regarding their budget
Yeah and most of that were inane crybabies who were really just mad over the characters, would have preferred if M6 stuck to ponies, dislike fighting games or whatever. And really would use any excuse to bitch.
There's only one *serious* question regarding the budget, and it's been the same ever since day one. What did they base the estimate on. Who is getting what money for what work. And they never felt like adressing that, ever. I get that you're a fan and the mere idea is painful but I don't think whether or not I assume they're being frauds or not matters much, their silence speaks for itself.
>>25322176
Why would you bump this?
>>25322175
I like the characters and the gameplay I think the story sucks.
>>25322225
I like the characters and story and gameplay, I don't see how that relates to the discussion at hand at all though.
>>25322175
>what did they base the estimate on
They said in one of the streams that they had multiple discussions with a budgeter to find out the right amount
>>25322279
Because I think the story has some serious problems, and we shouldn't be dropped as crybabies because we find something massively problematic in the product we like.
>>25316701
Is Faust a retard? How else could she come up with an idea THAT terrible?
>>25322349
Okay, so if you complained that the budget was unreasonable based on nothing but the circumstance that you are unhappy with the game's story, I think you're an idiot too. If that's what you wanted to hear?
>>25322381
The budget is unreasonable. They're working for really crappy wages right now, they deserve more.
I still think the story sucks and I hope not a lot of effort is put into cutscenes, I'd much rather be able to write my own story with the characters.
>>25322413
the devs are aware many don't like the story which is why they are adding an arcade mode so you don't have to deal with it
>>25322345
Hm, must have missed that one. You don't happen to know which stream it was in do you.
>>25322413
>I'd much rather be able to write my own story with the characters.
nigga it's a fighting game
the extend of your own story is which moves you use to beat the other guys up
>>25322490
Lauren thinks the story is pretty important.
>>25322519
She has nothing else to do.
If Faust is Sakurai, then all the writers and execs who built upon the series are Project M
>>25319701
>shied away from answering questions about it
baka desu senpai imo
I'd fuck Arizona.
>>25323753
What about Alaska?
>>25323783
I'd fuck Louisiana tbqh
>>25316701
Disgusting.
Baaaaah!
