Since there is no official, dedicated 'philosophy' board, this is as good a place as any to ask.
Was civilization a mistake?
Consciousness was a mistake. Everything else follows from that.
>>7992241
this lad is right and a true detective to boot
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there's no way to measure that. modern hunter gatherers report higher levels of happiness than "civilized" people.
But modern hunter gatheres arent ancient hunter gatherers.
And is subjective happiness what qualifies a success?
It's impossible to answer.
And the ideal life changes depending on the race and culture.
>>7992235
As opposed to what? Living like a caveman? Are you daft?
>>7992235
Who cares?
Better question is what we're going to do about it now.
>>7992241
was literally just about to post that.
Schapenhaur says Yes
Do you know what man did before civilization? We ate each other.
There were trade offs to our transition from anarcho-communal societies to what we refer to now as "civilization" and whether you wish to refer to it as "progress" is irrelevant. The fact is, our technology and understanding of invention has advanced our species tremendously. The problem is that we're still hung up on degressive, religious zealotry and dominion that leads the common mob to believe there will be another chance when all the resources are scavenged.
Democratic government under the influence of uneducated mob --> stupid societies; Now, venture capitalists and opportunists exploit this ignorance to make incredible gains in private ownership that are facilitated and protected by our laws (across multi-national boundaries).
There's just simply no utopia in future sight, so we idealize nature with nostalgic visions that lead us to forget about the barbaric and harsh conditions.
epic philosophical question
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>>7992235
For pussies maybe.
>>7992235
it's the obvious step in our natural evolution, the must-be consiquence of fucking and making a lot of babies.
>dfw sentience will soon be eradicated again
>>7993934
>implying it's any kind if notable loss.
>>7994013
I was implying it is a blessing to be frank.
>Was civilization a mistake?
Civilization is the principle of domestication extended to other humans, so is inextricably linked to the advance of agriculture and animal husbandry, the mistake starts there.
If you're an optimist, and a romantic, then you hope for these things to serve as a historical lesson to future generations who will make ever greater efforts towards new "enlightenment" or "transcendence" projects that redeem our history and prevent us from inevitably running out of things and people to exploit.
We don't have much else to hope for, if we're still in the hoping mood.
>>7992241
According to the bible
the first sin was consciousness
