Is stately meant as an adjective or an adverb? It's fucking killing me
It's an adjective, OP. Are you not a native speaker?
>>8261488
Are you?
Prefer it as adverb, but can't imagine the "stately, plump" adjective contrast isn't intended.
>>8261569
Stately as an adverb here sounds awkward to me.
Almost one hundred years later, debate rages over the first word of Ulysses. Is James Joyce the greatest artist of all time?
>>8261589
so?
>>8261597
Maybe the greatest writer, and I do consider literature the highest of the arts, so perhaps.
>>8260310
As an adverb, it suggests parody on the part of Buck Mulligan. As an adjective, it suggests parody on the part of Joyce, who decides to imbue his clown character with stately qualities to begin the day. But to phrase it this way immediately raises the question of the narrator of Ulysses—whose voice is this? to whom is it addressed? by what apparatus (sensory?) has it judged Mulligan to be stately in the adjectival reading? viewed in this way, the possibility of the adverbial reading functions as a sort of dialectical containment strategy for the narrator, a sort of camouflage in which it can at once hide itself, make itself absent, all while alerting us, forcefully, violently—descriptively—to its miasmic presence.
>>8261626
an adjective describes a thing
an adverb describes an action.
so either buck mulligan is himself stately, or he is doing things in a stately manner. or both, of course—but the real brain bender is considering the possibility of neither.
>>8261642
Buck Mulligan himself is stately.
Maybe the narrator is talking to someone named Stately.
>>8261488
If it's used as an adjective, a comma is missing
>>8262156
I laughed out loud
>>8261612
Music is the highest though...
>>8262156
Kek
>>8262124
how can you know for sure?
>>8262387
spaghettios
>>8262156
Joyce would actually love this.
>>8261642
An adverb can also describe another adjective. So maybe his plumpness is itself stately.
>>8262387
Joyce agreed
He probably wanted to be a musician but he had more talent for writing
>>8262380
>implying there is a single chapter of Ulysses where the rules of grammar aren't mangled in monstrous ways
>>8262387
t. Joyce
Well the word statelily is used later in the novel, so it seems like a lil joyce joke, it seems like it's either/both, we're almosting it til we see statelily later on.
maybe it means Stately as in: "I am stating this" or "in truth" or "basically".
sort of like Hwaet at the beginning of beowulf.
either that or >>8262156
>>8260310
adjective you dunce
>>8260310
>can't get past first sentence without getting tripped up
give it up lad
>>8260310
the opening word is stately because it contains the final word of the novel (StatElY - YES) reversed.
I know it feels weird, but it's there because of that. Joyce was a huge fanboy for synchronicity, reflections, and mysticism within his work. That's also why the first phrase has 22 letters.
>>8263935
>blown
>away
i don't even want to call bullshit
>>8263935
mmn--no
there is a contrast between when Molly first speaks in the novel, in chapter 4, from the bed, and vaguely murmurs "mn" (no), and the last chapter when she last speaks and loudly and clearly says "yes".
in that sense there is synchronicity, yes
I always thought it was
I stately
why does he include the I if there is no other chapter numbering
>>8263935
>people will believe this
>>8263935
Can you prove that with algebra?
Just go with the flow bro. You won't understand much of it cuz it's fucking ulysses
Go with the flow. You won't understand most of the book. That's why hipsters love it
>>8261597
>5th post on a shitty thread on a Cambodian basket weaving website
I'm imagining it being an adverb, where plump is him being 'stately' thrown down the staircase.
>>8263987
>contradicting me
read Coincidance by Robert Anton Wilson. there's an quoted interview between Joyce and Ellmann that confirms this fact.
pleb.
>>8264130
>You won't understand most of the book.
Yes you will. If you read it alongside the Gifford Annotated. You are parroting nonsense that you have heard here as though it's fact.
>>8263935>ulYssES
yes and no, he chose the word for that reason, but he had many words to choose that could fit, there's a reason he chose that particular word
>>8263935
This is like the FedEx arrow of literature.
>>8263034
no he did not agree you dolt, have you never read Portrait
>>8262156
FUCK
Somewhere, James Joyce is losing his shit
I read all of these....and still feel like I barely scratched the surface of Ulysses.
>>8265061
Which would you recommend most highly?
>>8265061
God this makes me want to read it so much. Thanks anon!
>>8265067
Honestly, the best thing I read was Shmoop (http://www.shmoop.com/ulysses-joyce/)
But, the "Allusions in Ulysses" is 500 pages of every single reference that Joyce was making. It is really a head-trip. Like, the reference "Polite Conversations" by Jonathan Swift about 60 separate times.
The Stuart-Gilbert book is best for understand what Joyce was trying to do. It was written while he was alive, and he agreed with most of it.
>>8264668
You're the hermeneutical dolt if you actually opt for an autobiographical reading of Portrait
>>8265363
>i have never read and know nothing about James Joyce
cool man
>>8261622
Man shut the fuck up
>>8265061
It's really on some other shit like that?
>>8262597
why
Stately, as in making a statement.
Jesus fucking christ
>>8265825
You can just skip Ulysses and go to Finnegans Wake if you want, it's way better any way.
>>8264115
I see what you did there
>>8264431
This. Plus a copy of Bloomsbury for chapter summaries.
