>>8257504
I agree
Yes.
>>8257504
Zadie Smith is one of the hottest famous people alive.
She did a pretty good interview with Norse Proust u can watch on the u tube.
>>8257582
fucking christ this board
Beta cuck sjw faggots.
Just having a jape! I enjoyed NW and White Teeth. Look fwd to Swing Time.
I doubt black women can write as well as white men so I'm not going to read her.
>>8257802
nice opinion lol fampai
>>8257802
Every once in a while a nigger bitch is a genius and sometimes white-boys are born dumber than a sack of shit. Statistically speaking.
She's cute
>>8257504
I'm not a fan of her work at all, and not because of racist/sexist memes.
White Teeth and On Beauty just feel so contrived. They have little new to offer. She crams in half-assed bits of a things other novels handle well. Life as a struggling academic, the immigrant experience, being a minority in the West, aging, parenting, marriage, the times are changing (but are they *really* people are still people) etc. crammed into both books, and all of them dealt with by rehashing an established idea about the subject. It's like reading a mixtape of more original writers ideas.
she looks like a frog
I'm not a fan of her style -- at least in On Beauty. It's smug and tedious. It's funky like JK Rowling is and pretentious like every cunt that went Oxbridge.
What really annoys me is that she's touted as some new literary voice for minorities or whatever and she is a Londoner that went to Cambridge that writes the most middblebrow literary fiction imaginable. It's only those establishment dipshits that would see her as a breath of fresh air.
Obvious obvious is obviously obvious.
>>8257504
She liked Infinite Jest. Artistic opinion discarded.
>>8258033
this pretty much, apparently her latest novel is alright but I haven't read
>>8257582
how is this even either a) true, or b) funny?
she's just purely simply, uninterestingly not pretty, and very physically and personalitically unattractive.
the girl is like filth, everything about her is like handling filth. I don't want to
>>8258535
>personalitically
>>8258033
There are a set of funny gifs of DFW doing a goofy dance in front of Zadie Smith at some literary festival.
>>8258563
literally wut
she's mixed race. her mother is black and her dad is white
she gets shot by both sides mate
>>8258545
this particular photo perfectly illustrates what I was describing
>>8258588
literally the first result for "zadie smith racism" on Google mate
>But I was recently turned away from a club in Paris with my brother for similar reasons: they thought my brother was a thug from the suburbs. So it’s not that unusual. Certainly in the areas my parents lived in, in the 1970s, there were still posters in the windows that said,“No Irish, no blacks, and no dogs,” which people in Britain do remember. It was extraordinary!
she grew up in Britain where we don't go in for that extreme race war crap like Americans do but around the time she was a kid there was a lot of low level racism like that around. i remember seeing that kind of thing myself.
>>8258624
>low level racism
>like posters in the windows that say “No Irish, no blacks, and no dogs”
>>8257504
she isa nigger
![axbglaucmaaeo4p-large[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/D6IrMRq.jpg "axbglaucmaaeo4p-large[1].jpg")
>>8258624
>we don't go in for that extreme race war crap like Americans
>>8258667
You proved his point rather well by finding an old creased flyer from some worthless little joke party.
>>8258667
also
>Maoris and islanders
yeah we really have a big problem with those in the UK
do you lads think tao was allowed to watch?
>>8257504
>tfw I bought a David Foster Wallace novel and there is a Zadie Smith quote on the cover
FUCK THIS BITCH
>>8258720
>kek
>lmao
oh do fuck off
>I'm a European ... so we don't really do stuff like that to people just because they aren't the same race
sure, racism has never existed in mainland europe. "lmao" indeed
>>8258720
we need more racism in europe desu femme
>>8258735
knausgard is dave grohl in disguise
>>8258767
are you sure it's not bowie?
>>8258735
DFW's ruined her let's be real
>>8258791
i think the walrus was friendzoned
>>8258788
>>8258819
i see /pol/ is leaking again
>>8258796
>widely regarded as mr nice guy of rock
>widely regarded as massively talented musician, songwriter etc
>"intolerable and talentless" according to an angry teenager on a porn cartoon message board
>mfw
>>8258757
>sure, racism has never existed in mainland europe.
basically no, it hasn't
>>8258853
political sentiments rather than literary sentiments
We don't mind immigrants here if they integrate but if they just stay stuck in their /pol/ culture we want them to go back.
>>8258820
You haven't seen the gif I see
>>8258899
the one with the dancing?
her brother is the guy who did the rap about making tea
>>8258667
>man for man
>man party
>prostrating himself before them
I'm detecting a subtext here.
>>8258535
whew lad, time to get off 4chan
>>8258852
You realise this is utter indefensible nonsense, right?
>>8258667
AO
TEA
ROA
N
Z
>>8258893
To some extent this is very true. The Clintons, for instance, are the epitome of that brand of white 'liberal' who have mastered the art of subjugating black people in the modern world. Bill Clinton did more to retard racial equality in America than any other leader of the 20th century but the uninformed majority of black people love him. Hilary Clinton left her husband's campaign trail to make a personal intervention in order to ensure that a black man was executed (despite the fact that he was so mentally challenged he asked for some of his last meal to be saved for later); she still got more of the black vote than a guy who has been on the front lines of civil rights protests.
So yes, I accept that some white 'liberalism' is just a new mode of slavery. But you can't use that brush to tar any white person who recognises racial injustice as a problem.
Have you actually watched videos of any of these police shootings, or researched the details? Like, you can tell me if you want that you know the facts and you don't care because a) it's not your problem or b) they're just niggers or whatever other reason. Fine; I can't make you care, that's up to you. But be honest with yourself, for fuck's sake. You can't research this shit and then claim that there's no trend of cops unnecessarily killing black people. And you can't claim the same shit would happen to white people.
>>8258893
>>8259361
You're both right.
My suggestion: pic related.
>>8258547
Sauce pleeeeease
>>8258535
I didn't intend it to be a joke. I think she is insanely attractive.
>>8259449
>>8258667
Thta's not England though
>>8258547
we gotsa see dat
>>8258678
"Vote Labour if You Want a Nigger Neighbour, Vote Tory If You've Already Got One" was originally a Tory campaign slogan that spread to other parties. That poster is a variation on that slogan and represents the historic popularity of racism in the United Kingdom
![projecting_projector[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/o03MFMw.jpg "projecting_projector[1].jpg")
>>8259138
I'll bet you detect that subtext just about everywhere you look
>>8259560
Approx half as many blacks shot by cops as whites last year
13% of population is black
=4x more likely to be shot by a cop if you're black
>>8259623
I actually agree with this
>>8259631
Maybe you should consider fucking men instead, buddy.
>>8259616
>don't wear shoes bc you think your feet are dumb
>get diseased foot
>"if we cut the foot off, we will no longer be diseased! aren't feet terrible?!"
>>8259645
okay... I will
>>8259646
>calling black people a disease
>diseases are eradicated to cure the person
Your words buddy, not mine :^)
>>8259645
Some of us are actually /aesthetic/
>>8259651
Alright, no harm done then.
>>8259549
The slogan was "if you want a nigger for a neighbour vote liberal or labour" and was used in one constituency (Smethwick) for one GE by one Tory and never spread beyond that
>>8259657
see, now I'd fuck these two
>>8259652
damn i lost again
>>8258893
I don't need to pull the "black friend" card, because I am black, and I definitely don't need to be told about the world I live in by an armchair politician.
Your friend stating that his "life as a black American isn't the abject squalor you're trying to convince me it is" is a great way of putting it for most of us. It gets irritating, Democrats trying to convince us that were being victimized or oppressed. I've been called nigger at work, on the street, followed around stores, etc. That's not oppression to me. Oppression is when you stand between me and an education, or a job, or impede my rights. This rarely happens.
As for "black people's nagging, subconscious inferiority complex" you couldn't carry that outside of the internet. You just couldn't. You could wield it agaisnt other armchair politicians who shape your view of the "black collective's" behavioral traits, but take that to the bar, to work, with real people and you're just as idiotic as the Democrats with their victim narrative. You're in a bubble. You have no credentials to make claims beyond your narrow scope.
I live in the most illiterate county in the USA(Kern). it is largely impoverished, drug infested, and there are more than a few gangs, but here white people are the problem. They're the poor, they're the homeless, the drug addicted, the violent. Cops are notoriously trigger happy, and we have some if the most KKK activity in the country.
There is no singular "system" no "status quo" of racial hierarchy. If you want to posture and go on some political diatribe, tell us about your suburbs because that's as far as your opinion goes.
>inb4 you're different from other black people
don't act like you've even spoken to more than a few of us
>>8259703
This post is pretty decent, but I don't know if I can agree with all of it. I've been to low income white neighborhoods (98%+ white) and none of the youth growing up there have been as fraught with violence and gangs as it seems like a lot of primarily minority neighborhoods (Detroit, Oakland) are.
>>8258788
Individual variation is bigger within a single race than between two races.
Interestingly, the people agitating for their own racial superiority are 95-98% of the time the piss-poorest specimens of their own race.
a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmv9Pb5NafI
>>8259507
kek
>>8259703
Good post.
>>8259703
Got the fuck to delete his post, lol
>>8258547
no way
>>8258740
that might be
the worst blurb
of all time
SHE ISN'T GOOD
WHY DOES NOBODY SEEM TO GET THAT
SHE
ISN'T
GOOD
SHE'S ATTRACTIVE AND BLACK
THAT IS IT
ZERO TALENT
>>8261123
>SHE'S ATTRACTIVE AND BLACK
Well you're right about that at least
>>8261128
What redeeming qualities do you see in her work? Everything I've read by her is mediocre at best. She doesn't have a good descriptive eye. Her dialogue is flat. I've read White Teeth and some of her stories. Is her other stuff better?
>>8261140
>muh prose
>>8261151
You don't deserve a response.
Here's one anyway.
Name one thing Zadie Smith does exceptionally well. Doesn't have to be "prose" related. Don't keep us waiting too long.
>>8261164
i have no idea, i'm not the guy you were talking to. limiting literature to prose though doesn't make you seem like you have any insight into the medium.
>qt black girl
>freckles
>>8257871
That's spot on with my impression of her work. The latest story she's published in The New Yorker is a perfect example of how her writing can fall to the side of ham-fisted.
>>8261173
>limiting literature to prose
I'm not doing this. Poster below my first post thinks I'm doing it, you do too, but I'm not.
Her characterization is limited.
Her pacing is unexciting.
She has plenty of other completely non-prose problems.
Now let's hear something, anything, good about her work.
>>8257504
I have only read her essays, she is really boring and pretentious.
Basically an SJW who gets praise by whites who hate themselves or something. I did not see anyone reading her that was black.
>>8261190
you're still offering a very limited view of what literature is or what it's supposed to do when there's no real basis for these beliefs. they're your feelings. it's you just saying things.
>>8257504
read a story of hers in the New Yorker. to borrow a term from journalism, she managed to simultaneously bury the lede and drop it too early, and the effect was disastrous. only successful because black.
>>8261220
Her recent one, "Two Men Arrive in a Village" starts off with the most rambling, self indulgent opening I've read in quite some time. If she "buried the lead", she didn't dig 6 ft, she dug 12.
>>8257988
>new literary voice
her relevance is at least a decade old
>>8258547
>>8259283
>>8259399
>>8259517
>>8261114
I got you guys.
>>8261237
>Sometimes on horseback, sometimes by foot, in a car or astride motorbikes, occasionally in a tank—having strayed far from the main phalanx—and every now and then from above, in helicopters. But if we look at the largest possible picture, the longest view, we must admit that it is by foot that they have mostly come, and so in this sense, at least, our example is representative; in fact, it has the perfection of parable. Two men arrive in a village by foot, and always a village, never a town. If two men arrive in a town they will obviously arrive with more men, and far more in the way of supplies—that’s simple common sense. But when two men arrive in a village their only tools may be their own dark or light hands, depending, though most often they will have in these hands a blade of some kind, a spear, a long sword, a dagger, a flick-knife, a machete, or just a couple of rusty old razors. Sometimes a gun. It has depended, and continues to depend. What we can say with surety is that when these two men arrived in the village we spotted them at once, at the horizon point where the long road that leads to the next village meets the setting sun. And we understood what they meant by coming at this time. Sunset has, historically, been a good time for the two men, wherever they have arrived, for at sunset we are all still together: the women are only just back from the desert, or the farms, or the city offices, or the icy mountains, the children are playing in dust near the chickens or in the communal garden outside the towering apartment block, the boys are lying in the shade of cashew trees, seeking relief from the terrible heat—if they are not in a far colder country, tagging the underside of a railway bridge—and, most important, perhaps, the teen-age girls are out in front of their huts or houses, wearing their jeans or their saris or their veils or their Lycra miniskirts, cleaning or preparing food or grinding meat or texting on their phones. Depending. And the able-bodied men are not yet back from wherever they have been.
>>8257988
Take consolation in the fact that she is well aware of all of this.
Fuck you /lit/, last time I made such a thread, you collectively deemed her talentless, how can I trust you guys.
>>8261237
yeah that's the one I'm talking about. it was uniquely bad
>>8259623
>missing the obvious 1000 cock stare
I wouldn't bang her because she's clearly a whore
>>8258852
1939-1945 dude.
>>8261263
this paragraph is from an alternate universe in which Italo Calvino was born mentally retarded
>>8261318
summer...
summer never changes
>the spokesperson for people of african descent in contemporary popular literature is lightskinned and whitewashed
Is this normative culture in action?
>>8261262
tank u based anone
>>8261318
cheekbone game one hunna tho
>>8261318
that's what you get for liking Ginsberg
>>8261849
Pretty much.
At last music gives some space for black people to be pissed off, even if it tries to brush their actual opinions under the carpet and treat songs about racial injustice like uncomplicated party anthems.
>>8261318
Sho sho pedo Jew
>>8261262
>Her body language
Fug, he really got in it...
