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Edition edition

What's your favorite edition or set of SFF books?

Previously: >>8246718

Recommendations:
>Fantasy
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/r688cPe.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/igBYngL.jpg/
Flowchart: http://i.imgur.com/uykqKJn.jpg/
>Sci-Fi
Selected: http://i.imgur.com/A96mTQX.jpg/
General: http://i.imgur.com/r55ODlL.jpg/ http://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg/
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>>8257337
It's from Heinlein on invisible exposition, as in you don't have to explain how we are in the future and doors are circles that open like irises when you can just mention that the door dilated.
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>>8257339

Should I skip it or is it worth it?
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>>8257378
i liked it
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First for Surrealism as a weapon (If the Bakkerfags can do it, so can I)
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Bumping with Dick. Currently reading The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch and I'm liking it so far. What by him should I read next? I've read all the obvious aside from VALIS.
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>>8257339
Only one third of Faded Sun?
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>>8257418
I really enjoy Now Wait for Last Year
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>reposting because no answer
>>8255987
The prose in this (pic related) is very basic, it's like how a primary school kid would write.
So far I've only seen one instance of GRI, it was only a glance and typically it's because some Horny Indian kid heard noise and "wanted to see" and it's was a little past the middle of the book.
They also have a lot of designated areas... seems like Indians trying to build up their society to more than it is.

Well I guess when a white writes he does this automatically, so when an Indian does it he will do the same. I wonder if the same applies to blacks and Chinese?
I know the Japanese in their literature (anime/Manga) always makes it seem like Japan is the only country in the world, or that Japan is a continent spanning the entire Earth.

Do you guys know if African and Chinese written fantasy does the same? (N. K. Jemisin doesn't do this, she doesn't blatantly say that the protagonist is pitch coal black and that they run the world).
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>>8257521
What exactly is the question here
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>>8257378
Read Ship Breaker instead.
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>>8257526
>what is last line
the previous is just context
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>>8257521
So you're saying that reading this unabashedly Indophilic book led you to believe that books by Westerners are just like that but it's invisible to you? Look, sometimes it's just a bad book. Bad African authors and bad Chinese authors do it.

Unless there's some wildly popular Western fantasy where people are going on about how great whites are and how they rule the world. I bet there isn't. Westerners love showing off lots of foreign surnames in their books, they often have their Arab or Oriental stand-ins teach their protagonists valuable lessons, and so on. How much anime is about a white person showing Japanese people how restrictive their culture is, teaching the kids to dance and lie to their parents and such?

And Jemisin shoves race in the readers' faces, don't even start with that.
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>>8257521
Come on, I've read plenty of CN where chinese are the overlords of the universe. Just read their xianxia where their chinese MC became gods and ruled the world.

t. not even white
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>>8254478
>Because, while he has imagined a stupendously great world and characters, his mediocre story-telling ability and shit prose chokes its potential to come truly alive.

In the early books? Certainly. He started out writing basically as good as anyone off the street would.

He improved pretty quickly, though. In the later books, as well as some of the off-series stories, I think his storytelling and prose improved far beyond what's typical of genre fiction; enough that I'd say it's actually good.

There wasn't a single time between, say, the third book of BotF up until Crack'd Pot Trail where his writing was anything but clear and well paced, and that's leaving aside how fantastic his dialogue has always been.

The Healthy Dead was a bit clumsy in it's way, but it was in general a very Discworld-esque satire of health nuts.

Crack'd Pot is a ridiculous detour from the typical shit, but it's also a big jump in his use of language. It's almost unreadably dense and absurd in it's exaggeration of storyteller's / poetic prose, but at the same time you can tell he's learning a lot as he stumbles through it.

To me, a bad writer is someone like Sanderson who has been making, essentially, the same dumbass mistakes throughout his entire career. I don't think Erikson can, by any definition, still be considered a bad writer.
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>>8257619

(unless you count the ridiculously lengthy endeavors of anthropology he takes in the prologues for the Teblor and the Tiste Edur. I kind of liked those, though. You can skip them without missing anything, but you can also read them if you're into that sort of thing.)
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Repostan

>>8255461
'Hoid' is a worldhopper but he's basically THE worldhopper. He isn't a Herald. Speaking of Heralds, we don't even know if the Heralds originated from Roshar themselves.

>>8255527
Hoid has been in every Cosmere story except for Shadows for Silence in the Forest of Hell and First of the Sun, as far as I'm aware. Even his appearance in Shadows is debatable between Sanderson and his main editor.

I don't know what you mean by SQW, anon. Also, Warbreaker takes place on Nalthis. Just call it by its planet name. It isn't its own universe.

>>8255534
As far as the original trilogy goes: he was an informant for Kelsier in the first book, leader of the Terris refugees in the second, and an informant again in the third book but spooked Vin so she didn't talk to him.

>>8257517
No clue. I'm sure he'll pop up. There's a nobody figure that is speculated to be him but nothing to confirm or deny it.
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Is this series any good?
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>>8257704
Very.
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"Who?" he roared in his sacred tongue.

He hacked at the riderless horses barring him from his foe. One went down thrashing. Another screamed and bucked into the knotted heathen ranks.

"I am Cnaur Urs Skiotha," he bellowed, "most violent of all men! I bear your fathers and your brothers upon my arms!"
Heathen eyes flashed white from the shadows of their silvered helm. Several cried out.

"Who," Cnaur roared, so fiercely all his skin seemed throat, "will murder me?"
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>>8257738
Forgot
>4 days until The Great Ordeal
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>>8257704
Its pretty good.
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how is the Era 2 Mistborn stuff? I liked the first Mistborn trilogy and I like Sanderson in general but the wild-west setting is kinda off putting for me.
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>>8257738
Based Cnaiur. Best character in the series.
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Been reading Iron Dragon's Daughter but am wondering if there's anything with a girl protag that isn't filled with drug use.
Any recommendations?
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/sffg/, I'm sure many of you are aware of Le Guin's comments on Harry Potter. She called it 'ethically mean-spirited.' Does anyone know if she ever expanded somewhere on what she meant by this? I ask because I had the same feeling and wanted to know whether she had similar reasons to mine. I can't find anything form her except that short quote.
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>>8257875
David Gemmell's Hawk Queen series.
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>>8257867
Thats not Sorweel
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>>8257981
>15 year old cuck
>best anything

The entire Thousand Tenples is laughing at you
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>>8257989
>is immune to the Dunyain sight
>is backed by an Elder God
>implying he isnt the most dangerous kid in Earwa right now

its only a matter of time
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>>8257770
Surprisingly good. The main character(s) is/are older so you see more maturity present. It's only Wild West-y in some parts, like the Roughs; otherwise, city is around the time or right after of Industrialization. Also, best character of the whole Cosmere is in Era 2.
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>>8257704
In my opinion, yes.
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>>8257574
>white person showing Japanese people how restrictive their culture is, teaching the kids to dance and lie to their parents and such?
You really think kids in Japan don't dance and don't lie?

>>8257521
>I know the Japanese in their literature (anime/Manga) always makes it seem like Japan is the only country in the world, or that Japan is a continent spanning the entire Earth.
Where did you get this from? Retarded shit like Mahouka? Or did you fall for memes?
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>>8257418
Could some kind anon please dump all the humourous Man in the High Castle Dick meme images? I would be grateful.
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>>8257920

What are your reasons?
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>>8257738
Jesus Christ this is so awful
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>>8258119

Yeah every single Bakker excerpt I've seen here has unbelievably shitty prose. I think the hype is all memes.
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>>8258131
No, it's the cretins in the thread who unironically think that's great writing.
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>>8257738
this is the funniest thing ive read today
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>>8257981
Almost every other POV character is better than Sorweel.
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>>8258131
Bakker's prose is purple as fuck, but you don't read Bakker for the prose.
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Why does everyone hate Sorweel?
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Who has better prose, Sanderson or Abercrombie?
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>>8257738
>"Who," Cnaur roared, so fiercely all his skin seemed throat, "will murder me?"
I cringed a little reading that.
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>>8258342
People used to kill each other in hand to hand, it's not pleb shit.
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>>8258339
Sanderson.
He's bad, but doesn't directly assume the reader is mentally challenged.
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>>8258294
He's just a very vanilla and boring person who happens to get swept up in events.

>>8258339
Abercrombie, although it took him a while to get there. Blade Itself had pretty poor prose.
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>>8258349

Abercrombie is right in assuming his readership is mentally challenged, since they read him.
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>>8258354
He's not the most ambitious sure, but I found him to be one of the more entertaining POVs next to Kelmomas.
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>>8258364
You are absolutely correct, but it's pretty bad when someone who isn't retarded tries to read his drivel.
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>>8258365
Lil' Kel is definitely the best POV from the 2nd series.

In fact Kellhus's kids (natural or otherwise) are the most interesting characters by far.
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What is some good obscure fantasy worth reading?
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>>8258375
I can ageee to that.
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>>8258377
There's loads.
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>>8258389
Then give me some titles, asshole.
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>>8258393
The Worm Oroborus
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>>8258393
Pretty much anything by Nick Harkaway, Chaz Brenchley/Daniel Fox, Paul Kearney or Felix Gilman.
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>>8258393
The Epic of Girugameshuu
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Friend of mine suggested the broken Empire trilogy with all the titles with "Thorns" in it.

Should I read it? Seems gay as fuck with all that 'set in global warmed Europe' map it uses.
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>>8258445
>Seems gay as fuck with all that 'set in global warmed Europe' map it uses.
I just saw the map. That is gay as fuck.
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>>8258445
It's bad don't bother.
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>>8258505
What makes it bad?
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>>8258445
The main character is a 15 year old boy who rapes and burns and murders a small town with his cool band of mercenary friends because no one can stop his genius and swordsmanship. That's just the first chapter.
It's garbage.
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>>8258517
>The main character is a 15 year old boy who rapes and burns and murders a small town with his cool band of mercenary friends because no one can stop his genius and swordsmanship.
That's awesome though.
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>>8258521
You have to be 18+ to post on 4chan.
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>>8258521
I envy you and your simple pleasures if you really are that retarded that you can find joy in such filth.
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>>8258522
>>8258525
You guys are silly.
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>>8258514
Do you like edgy teenagers?
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>>8258528
Who doesn't?
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Is this whole series worth it for someone new to the genre or is there a better place to start.

I've only read LOTR and the First Law trilogy.
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>>8258548
No, it's bloated and mediocre. You could be reading 2-3 other series in that time which would all be higher in quality.

Just check out the recs in the OP.
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>>8258548
Check out Mistborn and Stormlight Archive. They're pretty entrance-level friendly.
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>>8258555
>>8258552
That Stormlight series looks quite promising. Think that's where I'll go next.

Thanks, famalanos.
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>>8258548
It's fine for someone new to the genre.
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Soon.
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>>8258043
offended weeb autist (not the guy you replied to btw)
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>>8257704
if you play video games at all the story line is at times going to seem very familiar in weird ways. probably not an accident, the release of this book.

anyways I'm actually reading this right now, in release order. finished revelation space and chasm city, both were pretty good, and I just started the second book in the trilogy. (i hope we hear about sky hausmann again).
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>>8258043
>You really think kids in Japan don't dance and don't lie?
White kids dance too, but (((white))) people make movies about uninhibited minorities showing up to teach them some lesson.
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>>8257920
All I remember about Le Guin on Potter is her saying her friends were telling her about this delightfully creative story about a magic school and her thinking, "oh, the one I wrote thirty years ago?"

And all she was saying was that Harry Potter isn't original but that's not necessarily bad, as far as I remember.
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>>8257875
I guess I haven't spammed this in a while.

>>8258377
Maybe some of these. You feeling lucky today?
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>>8258676
>her friends were telling her about this delightfully creative story about a magic school and her thinking, "oh, the one I wrote thirty years ago?"

top kek

She's right, the first Earthsea is like Harry Potter if it was written by an actually competent, non-hack writer.
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>>8258673
if its not that its some white guy "going native" and ending up leading the proud-but-simple primitives

>tfw generational memes
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>>8258702
Yeah, but they always teach him how to loosen up too.
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>>8257031
>I don't know what you mean by SQW, anon. Also, Warbreaker takes place on Nalthis. Just call it by its planet name. It isn't its own universe.
It was a typo, it was suppose to be "saw". He saw hoid in warbreaker, I'm sure he would shit breaths if he saw hoid in stormlight.
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>>8258702
>some white guy "going native" and ending up leading the proud-but-simple primitives

I actually liked The Last Samurai. It was a good movie.
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>>8258723

>shit breaths

Isn't that just called "farting"
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>>8257339
>Most modern fantasies blend genres together. A Song of Ice and Fire blends fantasy with history, The Lies of Locke Lamora blends fantasy with a heist novel. If I had to put a label on the Cosmere, it would be fantasy meets the Marvel Cinematic Universe, taking the best things from each.
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>>8258050
Here's what I've got, don't think it's all of them though

1/4
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>>8257704
Its okay.
It gets more and more anticlimactic as the books continue and the characters are totally inhuman and bizarre. Not as amazing as people led me to believe it would be.
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>>8258737
a bit of an obvious statement considering that this has always been the case. before tolkien, fantasy was pretty much "middle ages with weird elements" after tolkien it has been "middle ages with fairy tale races and fictional mythology".
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>>8258739
2/4
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>>8258743
3/4
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>>8258445
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>>8258745
4/4
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>>8258731
..... Have you read warbreaker? I thought the pun was obvious. Go read how warbreaker's universe works.
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>>8258742
>Hodson
>Morris
>Dunsany
>Hoffman
>Eddison
What middle ages with weird elements are you referring to? Spenser?
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>>8258742
It's accurate for sure, but I thought it was funny because the author seems to think that comparing Sanderson to capeshit is favourable on Sanderson's part.
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>>8258759
welcome back dinosaur chan, I missed you <3. This some Stockholm syndrome level shit going on here, I'm fiending for your posts.
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>>8258772
>responds to a specific statement about an era of fantasy
>obviously hates new things that aren't by old people
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>>8258784
I'm sorry dino chan, it's just that I didn't see you for the past 3 threads, I missed you, and got excited.
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>>8258793
But I'm not even dino, I'm the John Barnes fan.
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>>8258838
Then where did dino go? Was he really a high schooler pretending to be well read? Now that summer is here he is at the beach watching chads reign in walking onaholes?
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>>8259102
There was never a dino, only anti-dino overreacting to every rec of an old book.
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>>8259102
He's here. I'm 99% sure he's one of these two
>>8258364
>>8258370
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>>8259119
Pure McCarthyism.
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>>8259141
No need to be embarrassed, in the presence of a master detective such as myself it was only a matter of time until your true identity was exposed, Dinosaur.
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hey y'all

I'm in a used bookstore with an impressive scifi section, but I always have trouble picking out scifi because I never trust any to be good unless I know the author. I feel like I'm missing out, though, so I could use some recs.

Delany is my absolute favorite ( and there's none of him here). Frank Herbert and Octavia Butler are close seconds. I used to love Asimov but I can't stand his writing anymorE.

Any suggestions?
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>>8259169
Reynolds, Stross, Asimov, Banks
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>>8258793
You need new memes. The dinosaur is finally extinct. "30 days" is ending next week. No one talks about gri anymore and the "Sanderson is anime" anon left. Hell chart anon don't even post anymore.
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>>8259169
>he liked hogg and dhalgren
Fucking degenerate scum
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>>8259186
Dhalgren should have been 400 pgs and not 900. Really I loved Stars In My Pocket... and his shorter novels, especially They Fly At Ciron
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Is this series any good?
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>>8259186

What is wrong with Gormenghast you fucking plebe? I haven't read the two sequels but I thought Titus Groan and Gormenghast were both 10/10
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>>8259324
It's sffg's bible
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>>8259324
It isn't a series but yes it's good.
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>>8258445
yeah only read it if you know you are reading a guilty pleasure book. I cringed at parts, and it seems like it was written by the edgiest person of all time for most of the series. The MC is a total Gary-Sue, but there are a few cool concepts in the world building.
Night Angel was much better as an 2edgy4me guilty pleasure trilogy

there are better books/10
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>>8259333

>responding to someone who unironically uses the term "degenerate"

of course he's a pleb, what did you expect?
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>>8259169
Culture Series by Iain M Banks
Stand alones that exist in the same universe
Consider Phlebas and Player of Games are the first 2 books.
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>>8259345
>It isn't a series
Book of the New Sun is 4 books long moron
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>>8259401
It's like LotR, it's one novel published in multiple volumes.
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>>8259409
It is literally a series you mog
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>>8259169
You must buy all of Cherryh's books.
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>>8258013
who do you think the best character is? I'm in the middle of the first book of era 2 and finding most of the characters pretty boring compared to era 1 (which had its fair share of boring ones).
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>>8259426

>buy

not him but her entire bibliography in epub is literally one click away.
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>>8259409
How can someone who reads be so stupid.
series:
noun
a number of things or events of the same class coming one after another in spatial or temporal succession
or
a set of books, articles, etc., that involve the same group of characters or the same subject
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>>8259430
>reading fake books
>deriving fake enjoyment
>proselytizing a life of fakery
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>>8259442

>clinging to obsolete tech
>fetishizing the smells of processed dead trees
>slowing mankind down
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>>8259432
>>8259416
>a set of books, articles, etc., that involve the same group of characters or the same subject
This implies that only the characters or subject are continuous within a set of separate stories, but in BotNS there are no real endings or beginnings with the novels. Maybe Aramini will weigh in and tell us what Wolfe's intentions were.
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>>8259442
>fake books
E-Books are fantastic. Even used paper books aren't cheap if you can read with any speed (Finishing a 1500+ page trilogy in about a week/ week and a half). My local library also has a shitty selection of SFF. It took me about 50 pages to get used to reading them after I found my preferred text size and spacing. I just use my phone, but I'm going to buy an E-Ink reader soon.The only people who don't like E-books are the ones who haven't actually tried to read them.
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Final novel of Kingkiller chronicle when?
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>>8259505
>liking Rothfuss
Lad...
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>>8259494
>The only people who don't like E-books are the ones who haven't actually tried to read them.
Nah, I've tried both and still prefer treeware. Ebooks are good for certain things, like if the physical version is expensive/hard to find, or when you're traveling though.
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>>8259494
...but I hate technology anon.
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>>8259180
GRI is alive and well, we'll probably get "15 days since Great Ordeal," and Orphans of Chaos is promising.
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>>8257339
Chronicles of Amber series. Roger Zelazny.
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>>8259485
It's literally one book split into 4 parts for publishing, Wolfe didn't need to intend anything specific for it to be so.
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>>8259578

Are you posting on 4chan via smoke signals produced by your Shoshone witch doctor?
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>>8259608
No, I'm going to stop doing TGO posts once the book is actually out.

It was fun while it lasted though
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>>8259333
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>>8259710
>someone took time out of their day to edit a Jurassic park poster
This is truly sad.
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I'm looking for something like The Stormlight Archive and Kingkiller Chronicles. Already read Mistborne, although I haven't read Brands of Mourning yet.

Tried to get into Malazan books but I'm in book 2 and I'm just not feeling it. The story is good, but there's no real gripping characters.

pls
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>>8259730
>Mappo and Icarium aren't gripping
>Kalam isn't gripping
>Felisin isn't gripping
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>>8259797

Felisin gives me the howling fantods.
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Has any fantasy novel surpassed Dark Souls for depth of lore, atmosphere, characters or memes?
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>>8259797
I'm really not feeling it. Maybe the books don't lend themselves well to being audiobooks.
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>>8259802
Is that an empty suit of armour?
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>>8259802
no fantasy novel has better boss fights than dark souls

prove me wrong

>pro tip: you cant
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>>8259810
You don't have to marathon it. I started malazan in 2012, finished book 10 last year. I just read other shit to refresh then read Malazan when there was a lull.
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>>8259833
Well then my book recommendation request seems pretty apt and appropriate then.
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>>8259824
>fruitless with an earlier attempt at gathering information, our hero tries a new tactic to get what he need
>what he doesn't realize that we aren't /v/ who fall for such tripe as reverse psychology
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>>8259839
>something like The Stormlight Archive and Kingkiller Chronicles
You could see if there is anything that catches your eye from pic related...
Add iron dragon's daughter, hull 3 zero to it.
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>>8259864
This is a troll chart for anyone new, you can safely ignore it.
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>>8259864
I could get tons of empty recommendations on goodreads, but fantasy is such a broad genre that I'd rather ask here for some specific recommendations.
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>>8259877
It isn't a troll chart, the author is genuinely retarded
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>>8259880
Your request was empty. Just check the OP or actually write what you want.
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>>8259730

Wheel Of Time.
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>>8259877
>>8259883
Alternative one here
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>>8259877
Seen as you have such superior tastes why don't you make a chart and show us what we should all be reading?
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>>8259884
>something like The Stormlight Archive and Kingkiller Chronicles.
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>>8259914
Something like.. a fantasy book? Check the OP.
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>>8259802
No.
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>>8259918
Do you also recommend people to watch WALL-E if they liked The Matrix? Both are Sci-Fi.
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>>8259730
Try reading Lies of Locke Lamora.
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>>8259704
I'm a self-loathing technophile.
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How does the Witcher series compare to ASoIaF? Obviously asoiaf is bigger, but are they comparable in terms of plot? Want to read the books before playing the game.
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>>8259958
Don't bother, game is better.
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>>8259936
>>8259887
Thanks.
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>>8259958
Read the two short story compilations. Then play the games.

Avoid the main series.
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>>8259984
>>8260006
Thanks, I'm 100 pages into the first compilation and i find it interesting enough, but not good enough for the praise the series earned. Guess it's more about the games.
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Anyone read God Stalk by Hodgell? Blurb sounds interesting.
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This was a good science fiction from Robert Silverberg, 1970. A former colonial administrator returns to an Earth-like planet, years after decolonisation, to atone for past transgressions involving a race of wise elephant-like beings. Lots of stuff about forgiveness, the soul, wisdom and spirituality in here, and written well.
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Someone tell me something about Catherynne M. Valente. Her fairy tale esque books look interesting
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Are there any space operas that /sffg/ would reccomend? Any with a first person narrative?
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>>8260137
GOLDEN SON
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>>8260144
read it and quite liked it, actually the reason I'm asking
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>>8260197
Are you familiar with the gospel of John C. Wright?
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Found one of the Riftwar books in my room, murder in La Mut, no idea where I got it from but I've never read anything from Silverberg before, is he and Riftwar worth giving a look into?
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>>8260094
I've got Radiance on the backburner, haven't started it yet because when I flipped through it, it was pretty much entirely written in the form of journal entries.
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>>8260223
Nope, just that he wears a fedora. What's his best scifi?
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>>8260137
Book of the Long Sun
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>>8260296
Golden Age trilogy. Excellent blend of archaic and futuristic elements. Count to the Eschaton is grander in scale but unfinished and not as focused.
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Up became down

Down became up
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>>8258445
>>8258517

I read the entire trilogy mostly because I bought the whole set in one go.

It reads like a airport-novel fantasy from the 80s. Or a lot worse Deathgate Cycle.
It's totally forgettable.
The author is retarded (check him out on reddit if you want to)

There were worse things I've read so yeah. If you want to you can, don't go out of your way to do it though.
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>>8260433
>Deathgate Cycle
There's a series that crapped the bed. The first four books were really, really good, the Sartan/Patryn conflict in post-apocalypse botched utopia was super interesting, but the more we learned about the Labyrinth and the magic system the dumber it got.
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>>8260227
Riftwar is okay, but I haven't read that one. Did you mean Joel Rosenberg (the co-author)? Guardians of the Flame is decent.
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Managed to get 60% into the name of the wind. Does this donkey shit get any better? The main character is going to make me kill myself.
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>>8260508
No it doesn't, it only gets worse
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>>8260551
Fug. Heard he fucks a goddess to death at some point, is this true?
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>>8260563
>fucks a goddess to death
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>>8260563
No he meets a goddess who fucks people to death, but he's so good at sex, despite being a virgin, so she lets him go so he can show other women how good at sex he is
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>>8260348
Thanks, will check it out
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>>8260598
Not quite as cancerous but still cancer.
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>>8260642
It is complete garbage
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>>8260462

That's the one, I think I may have a standalone novel or something but you seem to need to be familiar with lore and the universe. I should probably hunt down the original trilogy.
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>>8260669
Yeah, it's newer. Read Magician to see if you like Feist.
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>>8259900
>posting this jumbled shit
>unironically suggested people read chuck tingle
You're just as bad, if not worst. At least the "special" chart anon believes in his work, your chart looks like you are genuinely trying to troll.
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>>8260077
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>>8260629
There wasn't any malice on his part.
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>>8260758
>looks like you are genuinely trying to troll.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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What's the best "SJW" fantasy/sci fi book?

I want to be enlightened atm
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>>8260758
>Rec twenty fairly well-regarded books and nobody cares
>Tack on one obvious joke at the end and EVERYONE LOSES THEIR MINDS
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I really enjoy Stanislaw Lem. What other sci fi would I enjoy based on this? Some of the only american sci fi i could ever stomach was Dan Simmons Hyperion. Even most of what's considered core - or good - sci fi I don't consider particularly interesting on the prose level.
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>>8260855
Check the selected favorites chart in the OP.
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>>8260855
Strugatsky brothers maybe?
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>>8260821
The Fifth Season.
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>>8260821
Crown of Cold Silver
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>>8259429
Wayne, my man. I'd read an entire trilogy about my boy Wayne.
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>>8260855
Roadside picnic
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>>8259324
No story. Just first person shit. In before "my stylin's."
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>>8260905
Please answer >>8258723
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>>8260923
>Severian didn't quickly head to his destination for a denouement
>must not be a story
I bet you didn't even pick up on the Christian stuff.
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>>8260926
Pretty sure Susebron doesn't know who Hoid is, and Hoid can change his appearance anyhow.
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The Halo series is actually quite good. Before you ask, yes, I mean the one made after the games. Don't poke fun though; they are very entertaining and well written for a video game adaptation.
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>>8259169
>I used to love Asimov but I can't stand his writing anymorE

Why? Just curious, since Asimov's my favorite SF author so far, even if his prose is kinda simple.
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>>8257339
>>What's your favorite edition or set of SFF books?

always preferred stand-alone stories over editions but I did devour every Stainless Steel Rat novel as a YA/teen, back when I was reading the most SFF, The protag really appealed to me.
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I haven't read mistborn, but is the fact that there's a massive time skip a spoiler. My sister likes Mistborn and isn't aware of the skip, but I don't what to tell her if that's going to spoil something.
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>>8259141
McCarthy was right though.
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>>8260923
Behead those who insult prose.
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>>8261069
Yes it is.
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>>8260993
>Hoid can change his appearance anyhow.
Did he suck up breaths too? That is the only place I know that can change appearance.
Unless he is an illusionist like "tell me a truth" grill.
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>>8261073
I know. Just making fun though.
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>>8260993
How did they take nightblood from susebron anyways? That Herald cop who is stiff for rules that is.
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>>8260563
>>8260598
neither of these things are true. i didnt like the book either, but you dont need to just lie about shit
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>>8261144
But it is true... she "loves a guy to death" what do you think that means? When she steals you, and fucks you, you get addicted to the pussy, you don't want to leave... which makes it more questioning how Kvothe escaped.

As a virgin when he stuck it in her he was suppose to be sprung, unless he is actually gay.
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>>8261069
Somewhat. Mistborn is planned to be three trilogies (Era 2 makes this at least four trilogies now) but most people knew this beforehand so it isn't a huge spoiler really.

>>8261094
Hoid is a Lightweaver, among other things. Although he uses original Lightweaving since he's from Yolen, as opposed to the Lightweaving found on Roshar.

>>8261139
lolwat
Your information is all wonky.

Vasher had Nightblood. Susebron never touched Nightblood. We don't know why Vasher gave up Nightblood which is why I'm so aggravated we don't have the Warbreaker sequel yet.
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What are some of the best solo fantasy novels in the last few months? Please no epic fantasy, it's just not my thing
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>>8258637
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>>8261298
>epic fantasy
>solo
You're fine
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>>8261440
Whats coming out?
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>>8261456
Sorweel winning the Serwabowl
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>>8261477
>Sorweel
>cucked by Kellhus
>cucked by that crazy earth goddess
>cucked by Moenghus Jr.
>winning anything other than the cuckbowl
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>>8261256
>original Lightweaving since he's from Yolen
What is "original lightweaving"?
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>>8261256
>Vasher had Nightblood. Susebron never touched Nightblood
Who created nightblood? Vasher or susebron?
I thought the guy that created nightblood was on Roshar teaching sword play, hence why I asked how he would react to hoid.
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>>8261526
The form of Lightweaving that originated on Yolen.

>>8261530
Vasher did. Vasher and a deceased friend of his. Have you not read Warbreaker? Vasher is not Susebron.
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>>8261576
So who is on Roshar then?
Vasher never let that sword go out of his sights for long. That is why I'm confused, and for all I remember vasher met hoid.


Did you ever read son of the blacksword? I think that is nightblood in that book.
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>>8261613
Vasher is on Roshar. Vasher is Zahel.
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>>8260855
Strugatsky
Strugatsky
Strugatsky
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>mfw finishing The Tale of the Student and his Son

Goddamn, this must be my favorite part of the story so far. Which is kinda silly, considering how simple it is when compared to all that happened so far.
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>>8260758
>unironically
Pretty sure it's in the Bonus category for a reason, you joyless creature.
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>>8261668
>thought the story was supposed to be some deep metaphor
>look up analysis in wolfe newsgroup years later
>it was just a series of wordplay jokes
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>>8261477
Poor Sorwheelanon

I wonder how deluded you have to be to think this. All Dunyain must be removed.
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How are children of hurin and unfinished tales by tolkien?
I've recently read hobbit/lotr/silmarillion and am looking for more.
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>>8261736
thats why i say people seriously overthink Wolfe, just go with the ride
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That anon who wanted a speculative fiction general, it's a pretty good idea at the moment, these threads are fucking shitholes by now.
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>>8261761
>children of hurin

it's great

basically the long version of turin's story from silmarillion
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>>8261842

They would be better if Bakker anon, modern chart anon and Sandersonfags would just fuck off back to plebbit where they belong. Also Rothfuss fans.

>inb4 dino

No, I like modern fantasy, just not shit modern fantasy.
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>>8261792
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>>8257418
Clans of the alphane moon
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>>8261850
What modern fantasy do you like?
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>>8261850
Pretty much, but we are at the point of no return.
They metastasized.
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>>8261850
There is nothing wrong with PoN or SA.
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What do you guys think of PhilippJosé farmer? Read a few when I was a teen but pretty quickly got bored.
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>>8261857

Swanwick, Guy Gavriel Kay, Jeff VanDerMeer, Tim Powers, hell even China Mieville sometimes.
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>>8261889
Thanks.
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>>8261842
>>8261850
All you idiots have to do is post what you want to post.
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>>8261917

>hey guys what do you think of [good book]?
>chirping sounds

>kellhus memes huehuehue cucking le ebin ordeal
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