Is it a meme
whats the best translation
the book is literally hundreds of memes some dead guy came up with
get the george long translation
It's an okay introduction into Stoic thought (Heraclitus is better since Heraclitus is the root of Stoicism, down to his recommendation for a 'dry soul') but not the end all be all of Stoicism.
>>8226470
>the book is literally hundreds of memes some dead guy came up with
so it's a masterpiece?
>>8226460
Dont know about translation but if this book is a meme then I praise the memes. Life gets so much easier and logical when you read and understand stoicism
>>8226460
I have "The Emperor's Handbook" it sucks so far. Is this just a shit tier version, guys?
>>8226763
no it's good
Gregory Hays translation is the best by far.
>>8226513
No. A memesterpiece.
>>8226460
I really like the Penguin edition
>>8226460
>Is it a meme
yes
chicken soup for the soul: classicist edition
>>8226460
get the hays version. it's very direct and to the point which is how it was written in greek. many earlier translations took the short, direct language and made it overly flowery and descriptive, turning it into something it isn't.
>>8226460
Greg Hayes is best.
>>8226460
is this book based on christian values ?
>>8228641
Stoicism is the only serious alternative to Christianity, which is why so many fedora fags get memed by it.
>>8228641
Christian values are based on the Jewish- Greek synthesis I thought.
>>8228664
I've heard some good things about meditation, with or without the buddhist methods.
>>8228664
Then either find books that predate Christianity or fast forward to the divorce of theology and philosophy (Enlightenment).
Although if you don't deeply understand Christian thought then there's almost nothing else in the Western tradition you'll understand.
I'm assuming you meant Western philosophy since it's the only type worth reading.
Self help bullshit packaged over 1500 years in advance for pseuds
>>8228641
Aurelius himself was not a Christian but he has gotten a lot of respect from the Christian community throughout history
>>8226763
Best version.
>>8229703
objectively wrong
>>8229713
Why?
>>8229732
Not in the original Latin
>>8228727
>he has gotten a lot of respect from the Christian community throughout history
It's a bit odd given how intense his persecution of the church was.
>shoot up heroin
>sleep on floors
>become emperor
>>8228641
The romans were all pagans so no
>really enjoy Letters From a Stoic
>realise Seneca didn't practice what he preached at all
>book contains breddy good advice, but kind of lose all respect for it
Anyone else know this feel?
COMMODUS, MAI SON
>>8232113
yes considering that the books principals could have been followed more or less
>>8229866
>tfw you learn Aurelius was an opium fiend
Being stoic when you're high as shit isn't admirable, it's the default state.
>>8228682
Enlightenment philosophy maybe be divorced from theology but it's still 100% Christian values. Even later fedora-tippers are still 100% Christian values (like Marx) or build their thought against and in reference to them (like Nietzsche).
>>8232113
Rousseau wrote one of the most famous books on education but abandoned his children to die in misery. Sartre was a figure of existentialism yet also a pedo-rapist. His wife, de Beauvoir, wrote on feminism but was also the whipped dog of her husband, grooming young girls to satiate his lust.
Heidegger was a nazi sleeping with a Jewess. Arendt was an anti-nazi Jewess sleeping with a nazi.
Chomsky is a Libertarian Socialist with a multimillion dollar trust fund invested in the arms and oil industries.
Philosophers are all hypocrites. They are still worth reading because, eh, humans are flawed.
As an objective philosophy, yes it's a meme.
As a lifestyle, nah it's ok.
>>8232138
Also
>Nietzsche said pity shouldn't detract from happiness but pity caused him to have a mental breakdown.
I think Kierkegaard was pretty consistent, as well as Aurelius.
>>8232138
>Sartre was a figure of existentialism yet also a pedo-rapist
how is that hypocritical
>>8226460
literally "my diary to be honest": the book
>>8232207
Yeah, Kierkegaard certainly was at least, since he left his fiance because she wasn't a dutiful Christian and he was worried the marriage would stifle his religious growth.
>>8232197
I can get behind this
I don't think stoicism should be a way to understand and explain existence but rather a nice, useful and pragmatic way to live your life. It really cuts on a lot of stupid things that we deal with on a day to day basis.
Epicureanism is patrician.
Stoicism is pleb.II realize that using those words in relation to literal Romans gives them a different connotation, but you know what I mean.
>>8232266
Was it autism?
Literally the shitty self-help literature of the ancient world
