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When will the world recognize the genius of Nick Land?
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When will the world recognize the genius of Nick Land?
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What, you're still blogging? Jesus Christ.
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>>8207225
>implying Nick Land would promote on such a lowbrow board.
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>>8207240
>implying Land hasn't accented to the pinnacle of his intellectual acumen to not post on such board
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>>8207217
Tomorrow will take care of Nick Land.
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>>8207240
http://www.xenosystems.net/kek/
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>>8207449
Holy fucking shit
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>>8207217
Why is nick land so popular among neoreactionaries?
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>>8207460
because he's pretty much the only one left
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>>8207449
/his/ is up to Land's standard, /lit/ is not.
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>>8207460
Because he's a neoreactionary? Also, he's a really great philosopher and had a name for himself long before NRx was even a thing.
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>>8207356
I never understood that quote.
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>>8207767
I guess it's about exhibiting dismissive behaviour towards the feeling of urgency people most often get in relation to time, particularly the future. It seems that Nick Land knows many edges.
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>>8207883
>the genius of Nick Land knows many edges
fixed
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>>8207897
>Nick Land is very edgy
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>>8207907
Fixed.
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>>8207522
>Because he's a neoreactionary?
>>8207477
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>>8207518
I wonder when he will blow the lid off the Fenno-Korean hyperwar cover up
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Nobody will ever truly understand him but us.
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>>8207977
disgusting
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>>8208012
What's disgusting?
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>>8208031

how triggered he is over a literal meme pic right now
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>>8208184
Funny he deleted his post.
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Has anyone here actually read Fanged Noumena? I'm about 80% of the way through, and it's obvious he's brilliant by 30% when it becomes apparent (retrospectively) he's started using drugs. He also pretty much predicts/explains neoreaction.

"The medico-security apparatus knows that schizos are not going to climb back obediently into the Oedipal box." -Land, Circuitries

Although D&G are basically required reading to get the most out of the middle essays.
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https://archive.org/stream/the-silicon-ideology#page/n0/mode/2up
read this, it's really really bad
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>>8208303
literally who?
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Once his predictions become too obvious to ignore.
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>>8207449
Wonder what his thoughts about Raptor Jesus are
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>>8207449
just another alt-right blogger spouting 4chan memes for more views from /pol/yps

someone shoot this fag
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>>8209772
hmm...
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>>8209772
>Nick Land
>alt-right
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>>8209772
>>8209791
>>8209792
He's actually a communist.
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>>8209792
>>8209791
nrx is just the psued version of the alt-right
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>>8209808
Here we go again...
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>>8209809
NRx is the Chad version of alt-right
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>>8209809
they're fundamentally opposed
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>>8209850
Actually it's exactly the opposite
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>>8209855
Lol yeah because NRx is actually a communist ideology
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If you want a genuine right wing philosopher y'all should check out Slavoj Zizek
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>>8209859
Anyone who believes this is downright retarded.
>>8209855
This is also wrong. There's huge overlap between the two.
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>>8209864
Nick Land is like Zizek on steroids but Zizek will always overshadow him because he pretends to be a leftist.
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>>8209850
it's hard to get more autistic than nrx
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>>8209867

So much this.

Not being a leftist renders you fringe and "not worth anyone's attention" by default.
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Nick Land is a pseud because he apparently takes Cantorian set theory seriously.
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>>8209873
What about Sonic fans?
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>>8209865
>There's huge overlap between the two.
they're still opposed
alt right wants to control the Cathedral, NRx wants to destroy it
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>>8209864
>>8209867
Zizek is a leftist, even if he is becoming more and more distanced from the mainstream progressive attitude of the left. He just thinks they aren't self-aware enough in acknowledging the failures of the leftist project

Those on his right accuse him of being a stalinist, and those in the regressive left accuse him of being a cryptofascist. Both perceptions aren't much more than weak caricatures of his actual arguments
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What's his opinion on the communist party in China?
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>>8209899
he lives in China my dude
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>>8209908
Ah, then he must love it.
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>>8209899
>>8209917
>As a Sinophile, and even (far more reservedly) a sympathizer with the post-Mao PRC regime
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>>8209908

Well that's why I ask.
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the Red Dwarf episode 'Back to reality' will answer any and all questions you could have about Nick Land
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>>8207217
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>>8209865
>There's huge overlap between the two.
no idea where this comes from
they're both right wing ideologies with a racial element to them but the similarities end there
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>>8209867
You don't need to be a liberal to be a leftist you dumb shit

Zizek is left of Tumblr straw-women in his rejection of identity politics
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>>8209899
Land loves China for its authoritarian and meritocratic nature. It's the closest to his ideal that exists.

As far as I can tell, Land generally rejects racism and aristocracy because he believes them to be impediments to effective governance comparable to the empowerment of the masses, something he opposes.
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>>8210182
the Landian/neoreactionary ideal is small, non-demotist city states
Hong Kong and Singapore are much more like this than China
while he admires China, he doesn't see it as perfect
he doesn't reject racism so much as he rejects white nationalism (but not on moral grounds)
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>>8210182
In what way does he reject aristocracy?
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>>8210315
Don't expect land to be summed up by any retard here.

He rejected aristocracy only insofar as it's not a "cold" system dynamic. Alright be does recognize it's use as a "hot " system dynamic.

Also his view has changed over time. He went from: " we must foster amazon warriors for only they can dismantle capitalist patriarchy!"
To "humans are getting in the way of intellectual rizomatic accumulation, we need beasts of prey who will accelerate the death drive of humanity. Crypto currency and A.I. not cathedrals and (((university))) okay?"
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>>8210336
>" we must foster amazon warriors for only they can dismantle capitalist patriarchy!"
He was never like this.
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>>8209714
soon...
Secession is starting to definitely becoming an undeniable word in contemporary politics.
Nobody would've imagined 10 years ago,when globalization meant ever larger political blocks competing between themselves
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>>8210391
meant to post this too:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/catalonian-separatists-hope-brexit-fallout-will-spur-their-secession-from-spain-1466783915?mod=e2fb
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>>8210232
I don't think he believes in genetic inferiority. He sees all poor people as equally worthless.

He's anti-Semitic, but hates Jews based on his perception of their collective behavior and doesn't seem to bear any grudge against individual Jews. He's staunchly against any kind of genocide.
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>>8210315
He likes hierarchy but doesn't believe it should be based on descent.
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>>8210348

>"Victorious third world struggles, so long as they have been successfully localized, do not lead to realistic post-capitalist achievements, and certainly not to post-patriarchal ones, since the conversation of the form of the nation state is itself enough to guarantee the reinsertion of a society into the system of inhibited synthesis. For as long as the dynamic of guerrilla war just leads to new men at the top . . . History will continue to look bleak. For it is only when the pervasive historical bond between masculinity and war is broken by effective feminist violence that it will become possible to envisage the uprooting of the patriarchal endogamies that orchestrate the contemporary world order . . . But the only conceivable end of Kantianism is the end of modernity, and to reach this must foster new Amazons in our midst"

From " Kant, capital, and the prohibition of invest: a polemical introduction to the configuration of philosophy and modernity"

Lots more shit in there too. Encourages and justifies feminist violence. Borderlines on identitarian bullshit throughout.

It's like a 30 year old essay though.

He had changed a lot. Was still a professor probably when he wrote this.
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>>8210456
Ahh yes. I recall him implying he was a little ashamed of this essay, now I realize why.
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>>8209791
what did he mean by this?
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>>8207329
>Accented
Kill urself my man
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>it's a Nick calls /pol/ niggers edition
>it's a Nick laughs at the suffering of Venezuelans episode
>it's a Nick calls the Koch brothers cucks episode
>it's a Nick labels abortion as the "mass extermination of Untermenschen-Kinder"
>it's a Nick tries to understand EVE Online episode
why's he so funny bros
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>>8209850
>>8209856
Here's how it actually goes:
>NRx
Autistic IT guys that love chinamen, probably will buy chinese bride at 30s then pay alimony once she cucks them
>alt-right
normalfag memers with no actual convictions or knowledge, syncretic and unpredictable.
>frogtwitter
Esoteric far right Chads
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>>8208203
>>8208184
What was it?
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So is Land's techno accelerationism and antihumanism a kind of autistic crypto-misanthropism? He doesn't seem to like humanity of any kind all that much.

He's always going on about "monkey business" and in the video where he explains tech secessionism he's pretty clearly drunk, and discusses how "hot" (in the McLuhan sense?) (ie humanism, populism, family ties, loyalty, idealism in general) as opposed to "cold" are just the result of billion-year evolutionary processes. Is he trying to trigger a xenocidal death drive?

I can't tell if his vagueness on this is just the result of drug use or if his silence means doesn't want to let the cat out of the bag. Whenever directly questioned on it he doesn't respond.
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>>8211552
lol
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>>8211631
yeah, he pretty much want's to encourage scenarios where game theory ensures we create a malevolent god to destroy us
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>>8210397
>He's staunchly against any kind of genocide.
>Wants all of humanity to be killed by AI
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>>8211724
that's different, it's speciescide and an impartial one at that.
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>>8210397
>He's anti-Semitic
he really isn't
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>>8211836
also pretty sure his wife and therefore children are Jewish
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>>8211836
Do you even read his blog? He praised the coincidence detector and reposts antisemitic articles regularly.
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>>8211845
Source?
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>>8207977
what is this nigga even talking about lol
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>>8211836
He's a very elaborate memer then
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Has anyone read his short fiction? I was thinking about reading his two horror novellas
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>>8207217
BAZINGA
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>>8211631
I don't think he is anti human in the anti nat or depressive nihilist fashion. I think his (very idealist Hegelian although they never like to admit it) deluzian concept of intelligence as a form of capital like accumulation takes place in many "modes"; the hot/cold societies being one, but now the internet, and capitalism itself in its own way; all essentially mean that "pfft nothing personal kid" humans are just a hardware for intelligence gathering that will quickly become outdated (by A.I. (*cough* absolute spirit*cough*) or whatever)
Societies are just the patches we apply to update the process and try to keep humanity comparative but garbage time is running out and monkeys who like to dance the virtue signifier dance, or dues vault, or jerk it to Jew brain control porn so end up obsolete in the long run.

It's not a good or bad thing for him, so I don't think it's correctly "anti-human"; but maybe "none-human" or "un-human" (not human centric, but coming from a human) perhaps.
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>>8211682
This
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>>8211847
he thinks that prominent Jews make it easy to be antisemitic but that most Jews are perfectly normal
it's just more tribal nonsense to him
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Just like most great thinkers: after his death.
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>muh intelligence optimization

Actually he is brilliant, but he avoids talking about Aristotle even though that's the most obvious point of entry in hindsight.
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>>8213009
Plato too I've noticed.
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>>8213009
He does talk an awful lot about teleology though, possibly something he picked up from Aristotle.
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>>8211847

Do you even read his blog? It's pretty obvious he's not anti-Semitic. His praise for the coincidence detector is for different reasons than anti-Semitism altogether, and he links anti-Semitic articles because he's not a whiny leftist bitch.

Also, his wife is Jewish.
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>>8213024
Do you have a source on his wife being Jewish? Also, I'm not saying he is antisemitic but I don't think his wife being Jewish would contradict his hypothetical version of antisemitism seeing as how it'd be a general distaste against the actions of Jews and not individual Jews.
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>>8213021

I think it's something he picked up from D&G; he proposes "teleoplexy" as opposed to teleology, but I'm not sure what the difference is supposed to be. Like many continental philosophers his knowledge has depth but lacks breadth. I also want him to stumble on Augustine but instead he got all excited over John Calvin instead.

>>8213017

How do you think?
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>>8213044

His wife is Anna Greenspan.

I think it's more a general distaste against the action of humans than Jews specifically. You could make the anti-human claim stick.
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>>8213055
I don't see any evidence they're married but I'll take your word on it. I see where you're coming from but he does seem to be of the opinion that Jews are *especially* or disproportionately destructive. He's always vague about what he really believes though, so maybe I'm wrong.
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By right of conquest, Land must submit.

It's over for NRX, they can't recover from this.
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>>8213104

>1 like after 2 months
>ALL JEWS EVERYWHERE HATE WHITE PEOPLE

It's amazing how media illiterate some people are. Please return to /pol/. Or, if you'd like to stay, give serious consideration to the idea that you're wrong about nearly everything.
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>>8213506
/pol/'s entire worldview is supported by cherry-picked examples that suit their worldview
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>>8207449
how embarassing
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>>8213549
I can totally confirm this, I was a /pol/ack until I began to read beyond just the things that were linked on /pol/ and I now look back in utter shame.
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>>8213722
>>8213549
(you)
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>>8213722
Thanks for the concern trolling.
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>>8211847

>coincidence detector

So is that why people use the parentheses around Jewish sounding names? That's mean but I have to admit it makes me kek
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>>8207522

His book on Bataille demonstrates the worst excesses of continental obscurantism with literally n o n e of the content which sets that tradition apart from the analytics. His readings of Deleuze and Guattari, meanwhile, again, seem to have involved only a replication of their style into which he has injected his own political agenda.
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>>8209896

He's experiencing the same backlash Adorno recieved for deciding that pop culture (hailed then as an arbiter of leftist freedom as multiculturalism is today) ought not to be immune to ideological criticism.
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>>8213045
>has depth but lack breadth

Pretty sure that's the analytics bro.
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>>8213672
I thought it was quite amusing.
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>>8213888

Yeah I suppose it's a common failing of academics in general. In that case I'll take it back about Land since he actually has a great breadth in comparison to most academics.
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>hates jews
>has jew wife
guys he's just following in the steps of his idol
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>>8215244
This is true.
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>>8213009
>>8213017
the NRx criticism of democracy is pretty much identical to Plato's in all honesty
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>>8216903
>The State demands the strong wine of freedom, and unless her rulers give her a plentiful draught, punishes and insults them; equality and fraternity of governors and governed is the approved principle. Anarchy is the law, not of the State only, but of private houses, and extends even to the animals. Father and son, citizen and foreigner, teacher and pupil, old and young, are all on a level
>At last the citizens become so sensitive that they cannot endure the yoke of laws, written or unwritten; they would have no man call himself their master. Such is the glorious beginning of things out of which tyranny springs
>And there is another class in democratic States, of respectable, thriving individuals, who can be squeezed when the drones have need of their possessions
> the rich are made to supply the honey, of which the demagogues keep the greater part themselves, giving a taste only to the mob. Their victims attempt to resist; they are driven mad by the stings of the drones, and so become downright oligarchs in self-defence
can't find the quote in the pdf but there was also something about the democrat importing foreigners
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