What's your favorite Shakespeare? I personally really like The Tempest.
Macbeth
>>8203209
Can Puck's speech at the end apply to some books as much as it can to the play?
>>8203266
the end of a midsummer's night dream, forgot to include that
King Lear is GOAT
Personally I find Henry IV part 1 to be his most enjoyable play, but surely Hamlet is best.
His dairy desu
>>8203209
I've only read Hamlet and MacBeth so far and enjoyed them both thoroughly. Planning to read King Lear next (and follow it up with a re-watch of Kurosawa's Ran, preferably that new 4K remaster).
THIS IS NOW A UK THREAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHNfvJc99YY
but probably Julius Caesar
>>8203261
God damn fuckin right
>>8203209
Tempest as well by far. Can anyone recommend a performance? I've been meaning to watch it
>>8203404
Is that a movie set, or do people really live in such quaint houses?
>>8203454
People legitimately live in places like this.
If i'm correct, this is where they filmed an old bread advertisement in the 60s or something which was like Ridley Scott's first thing he directed.
>>8203300
agreed. hamlet is shakespeare's best and most philosophically enduring play.
however, i personally enjoy watching henry iv, pt 1 and tempest more than hamlet. king lear is also fantastic when performed well.
the great majority of actors tend to over-dramatize hamlet because of its weight. imo, hamlet is better read than seen.
> all this muh Falstaff muh Hamlet
Antony and Cleopatra is his best. Coriolanus is also amazing and so is Measure for Measure.
Hamlet is dumb.
>>8203486
careful not to cut yourself on all that edge
>>8203486
>Hamlet is dumb.
See, when people say things like this with no other additional reason why, I just can't take their opinion seriously. What about Hamlet is dumb? Do you actually think it's shit, or were you simply not that fond of it? Explain, Anon, EXPLAIN.
>>8203209
Hamlet, Othello and Macbeth. They're his meme trilogy for a reason. King Lear and The Tempest are great too.
I think Troilus and Cressida is amazing as well, it's some of the most masterful trolling in history.
ITT: babby's first Harold Bloom
Hamlet and Midsummers
>>8203497
>contrarianism as virtue signalling
Boy you sure convinced me. As soon as too many people realize the greatness of something, it stops being great because you can no longer use it to showcase your distinguished taste.
>>8203512
> Boy you
Stopped reading right there. Learn to use a comma, faggot.
This is a Shakespeare thread, for fuck's sake, respect the comma.
>>8203535
Astounding faggotry. Do you wear a scarf too?
anthony and cleeopatra or king lear or hamlet, it fluctuates
>>8203443
The best production of the Tempest I've ever seen by far was actually co-directed by Teller (as in Penn and Teller), at the ART in Cambridge. I never really cared for the play until I saw that performance. I'm not sure if there's a filmed version of that show though.
>>8203209
William
Fie, fie! unknit that threatening unkind brow,
And dart not scornful glances from those eyes
To wound thy lord, thy king, thy governor:
It blots thy beauty as frosts do bite the meads,
Confounds thy fame as whirlwinds shake fair buds,
And in no sense is meet or amiable.
A woman mov'd is like a fountain troubled,
Muddy, ill-seeming, thick, bereft of beauty;
And while it is so, none so dry or thirsty
Will deign to sip or touch one drop of it.
Thy husband is thy lord, thy life, thy keeper,
Thy head, thy sovereign; one that cares for thee,
And for thy maintenance commits his body
To painful labour both by sea and land,
To watch the night in storms, the day in cold,
Whilst thou liest warm at home, secure and safe;
And craves no other tribute at thy hands
But love, fair looks, and true obedience;
Too little payment for so great a debt.
Such duty as the subject owes the prince,
Even such a woman oweth to her husband;
And when she is froward, peevish, sullen, sour,
And not obedient to his honest will,
What is she but a foul contending rebel
And graceless traitor to her loving lord?--
I am asham'd that women are so simple
To offer war where they should kneel for peace,
Or seek for rule, supremacy, and sway,
When they are bound to serve, love, and obey.
Why are our bodies soft and weak and smooth,
Unapt to toll and trouble in the world,
But that our soft conditions and our hearts
Should well agree with our external parts?
Come, come, you froward and unable worms!
My mind hath been as big as one of yours,
My heart as great, my reason haply more,
To bandy word for word and frown for frown;
But now I see our lances are but straws,
Our strength as weak, our weakness past compare,
That seeming to be most which we indeed least are.
Then vail your stomachs, for it is no boot,
And place your hands below your husband's foot:
In token of which duty, if he please,
My hand is ready; may it do him ease.
>>8203209
I've read a line or two, so my favorite Shakespeare is I
>>8203454
Southern UK
I live in the same county, a lot of the villages are like that
>>8203300
Watch the restored version of 'Chimes at Midnight,' desu. Orson Welles combined all aspects of the Henriad having to do with Falstaff into a play just about the man. It's great, and the Battle of Shrewsbury is one of the all-time influential cinematic battle scenes. But for sure, it's the only time on film I've seen someone just NAIL the "I do, I will" Tavern scene
>>8203404
Really? Of the ones I've read, I'd put JC at the bottom.
Rosencrantz and Guldenstern are Dead is my favorite.
>>8203261
I laughed my ass off when the squire comes to macbeth and tells him he saw "a moving wood".
>>8203387
Ran is amazing. Got to watch it remastered on the big screen.
>>8203931
Watch throne of blood by Kurosawa as well. It's his adaptation of Macbeth
>>8203535
Cuz Shakespier used sooo much comma and grammarye. None of it was added by the publishers. None.
Where all my fellow Titus Andronicunts at? Best of the tragedies if you ask me, though Macbeth is a close second.
I quite adore Twelfth Night.
>>8203498
Troilus and Cressida is great. Pandarus is a great character and Odysseus is one serious bastard. All the women in that play are whores and all the men aren't honorable by any extent, other than Hector. And Hector's honor doesn't get him very far.
>>8203635
Taming of the Shrew is so fucking good
>>8203908
I think that would make Shakespeare happy.
>>8203300
I actually love Henry IV part II. It has a similar theme to Macbeth (hubris-inflected ambition), but I like it even more .
>>8203635
Completely annihilated.
Don't forget that Taming is a framed play, and the events that take place within it should be understood in an ironic light.
>>8203635
>place your hands below your husband's foot:
>In token of which duty, if he please,
>My hand is ready; may it do him ease.
How can anyone think this is serious. It's not even a question of whether you're a pussywhipped SJW or a militant Evolan asshole, this is just comedy gold.
>>8205287
I am uninitiated in stage terminology. What is a framed play?
>>8205300
It's a play within a play, or a play performed for other characters. In the case of Taming, it's a performance put on by the employees of a tavern to trick a drunken man into believing he is a nobleman. This part is generally cut from most modern stagings, which eliminates the framing element and so encourages the audience to take everything at its face value.
>>8203486
>Antony and Cleopatra
Don't make me laugh, kid. Shakespeare's best is A Midsummer Night's Dream. I don't expect a young reader like yourself to comprehend what I mean. You have a long way to go in Shakespeare studies.
>>8203497
>he knows how to parrot the opinions of T. S. Eliot
>even the bad ones!
>>8205352
I teach Shakespeare to college students, I'm sure I'll be able to understand you.
Please, tell me what you mean.
>>8203261
90% of Macbeth is amazing, but then there's that horrendous ending put their basically just to suck the king's dick.
>>8205358
he b trollin u breh
Also I agree that AnC is way up there, but disagree that Hamlet is dumb
"There's beggary in the love that can be reckoned."
>>8203486
Coriolanus gave me adrenaline spikes.
Love's Labour's Lost is highly underrated.
>>8203209
much ado about nothing
