Recommend me some good literature for improving your writing
>>8180961
Anything by Bellow, Roth, Gass.
To add to this shitty OP, I really want to learn how to do creative writing well, with humor mixed in for good measure. I don't even know where to begin, how the fuck does someone learn to write better? I'm beginning to think that me not being able to be creative with writing is more a symptom of just having a very inactive mind. I don't know!
>>8180975
I'll check them out. Any of their works in particular I should read?
>>8180976
Despite what many people say, creativity is something you learn and improve upon. You just need to practise, but it can be difficult to know exactly what practising creativity is like. Just practise coming up with stuff in your brain, coming up with ideas. Internally observe where your inspirations and ideas come from, how they came into your thoughts, and what sparks exterior observations that you make. You can write them down, but you don't have to necessary do so. Expand on those ideas when you have them. Take them to their logical end point, or rearrange them, deconstruct them, whatever. Learn and practice thinking creatively. It'll get easier with time.
>>8181845
>despite what many people say, creativity is something you learn and improve upon
Citations needed or you're just making him waste his time with false hopes.
>>8180980
Ulysses, Gravity's Rainbow, Infinite Jest, the list goes on...
>>8181853
Ask anyone who has developed a skill in the arts and they'll tell you the same thing. No citation needed, because what citation could possibly be provided? It's an immeasurable thing. Just take it as my opinion and advice then, OP.
Write a lot, read books, get out of your comfort zone.
>>8181868
I'm not the original poster, I was just calling you out on this bold assertion. I'm okay with it being an opinion.
>>8181902
I'm not the original poster,
I didn't think you were. Yeah it is an opinion. Maybe it is a bold statement, and I probably didn't articulate it very well.
>>8181845
When I say practise, I don't mean just sit down and try to think of things in the way someone might sit down and go over some piano scales. I'm talking about just sort of naturally learning to accept your ideas and be selective about them. Learning to become aware of what thoughts are useful to you, which you might otherwise ignore. In my case, before I have developed this skill to think more creatively over time, I would often make observations and have ideas that I would just discard as useless or trivial, not synthesising them with other material.
You can learn style and form and stuff from a book, and that's really helpful, but you can't really learn to think about how to creatively work on a project, IMO, without practising how you identify, synthesise, and expand upon decent thoughts and observations. It's really more about building a habit of thought than anything. This is all true of me anyway. It might be different for others. But just anecdotally, people do get better creatively as they keep going with their creative art. I think a lot of it has to do with just being less self critical of your thoughts, giving them time to be expanded upon before you dismiss them.
It also takes time to learn how far an idea should be expanded upon and when it's a good enough idea to be used.
The same goes with the actual technical details of writing though. You can read about it, know in the abstract how it should be done, but you still have to practise.
*TLDR: My advice for creativity is: allow yourself to ruminate on ideas before you dismiss them, expand upon them, use them in your writing, assess how it went, repeat.
>>8181853
Yes there are definitely sources you can cite for measuring fucking creativity. How dense are you?
>>8182475
Please do.
I just started to read some essays by Mark Twain. His essay, "what is man?", blew my mind, and I highly recommend giving it a shot.
>>8182475
> creativity can be measured.
> subjective values can be quantified
> internal cognitive processes are observable by science.
kek. tell us more, Sigmund.
>>8182475
Please post sources.
>>8180975
How is Herzog going to improve writing?
Honestly just read a lot. You'll subconsciously pickup on things, and maybe take notes on powerful passages so you can go back and analyze what made them impactful
>>8181860
none of the books you've listed have any relation to the author's that were referenced.
Anyone recommend me some books about Stoicism?
>>8184690
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discourses_of_Epictetus
>>8184696
Ohh, I've heard of this. I'm kinda obsessing over the whole stoicism thing after my grandpa died.
>>8184482
redditors flying out of the fucking woodwork this summer
How do I get better at writing essays? I'm 20 but when I write it always seems like it was written by a 13 year old. It's too simple. I'm currently trying to improve my grammar and vocabulary but how do I make my essays/writing better?
>>8184482
fate was cruel to this one
>>8185409
read more. write more. look at more words. consciously think about words more
words words words, hamlet said
