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>Green text the plot of your book
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>>8116817
I'm not giving you my ideas.
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>>8116817
>guy comes up with 5 internet friends to trick a girl into dating the real him
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>Mother shows up pregnant in ruins of previous world
>She builds a shelter
>Gives birth to a kid and gives him a weird name
>Kid grows up with her until she dies
>When she does, he roams an empty earth
>He sees a bunch of spooky shit
>There's a spooky black monster at the bottom of a cave
>There's also some spirits that roam the earth
>Insert plot here
>At the end, the boy looks out into the distance with his cool dog that he found
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>a boy falls in love with a girl. Unable to confess, he is gifted with by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.

But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.

Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.
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It's a boy that falls in love with a girl, and unable to confess, he is gifted with by a deus ex machina with the girl's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.

But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the girl, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the MC's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.

Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.
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>College student's grandpa died
>Grandpa deposits a copy of himself into a virtual universe/simulation program so that she can visit him
>She does.
>The virtual reality allows the copies to look like and act like they did when they were young or old, whenever they felt they were best
>She finds out that grandpa is not as he seemed
>She meets old people who are amazing and interesting that she'd never have bothered with because they were old
>She falls in love with one of the simulations who is just data and realizes it wouldn't ever work.
>She feels odd about her grandpa who she was always close to
>She leaves the virtual reality alone, wondering if she should have left the past in the past.
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>The end baby, THE END
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>>8116817
>Guy gets laid
>kills people because his fuckbuddy made him do it
>shitposts
>???
>apocalypse
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A man realizes he has to die, and laughs.
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>Alienated Jew Memes City Dead
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>Young homeless man strives to find his own identity and fails, instead deciding to drive himself insane with a huge amount of hallucinogenic drugs, in order to forever inhabit what he calls "the real," an abstract space outside of reality where his thoughts create everything. The Real also serves as a blank slate for his imaginings, and he can be anything he wants to be. What he wants to be, namely, is a conqueror. So somewhere along the way we'll see him re-enacting history, or creating his own, perhaps fighting against people he despises or who make him insecure.
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>astronauts go to space
>discover an extraterrestrial biped insect race living underground on a planet
>insects are friendly to astronauts
>the insects emit oxygen
>insects live underground
>insects breed and reproduce
>insects consume their own larva to survive
>astronauts are starving and ran out of food
>insects bring astronauts their larva so they won't starve
>astronauts don't ever want to leave
>the insects emit a pheromone that changes patterns in the humans brains so that it makes them believe they're a part of the insect hive mind
>NASA sends more astronauts to find out what happened
>everyone just stays on the planet and lives happily with the hive mind and peace keeping mentality
>insects keep reproducing and so do the humans
>they run out of room on the planet
>start invading earth
>earth gets taken over and slowly subjects to the hive mind mentality because of the pheromones of the insects
>Chuck Norris sees what's happening and puts an end to it all
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>>8116862
Cool idea, friend.
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>>8117234
It was the oldest of memes, it was the dankest of memes
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>handsome cool guy looks like Jodie Foster living in small town
>crazy John Hinckley Jr type guy stalks JF and is secretely gay for him
>JHJ is a bitch so no kill
>queue crazy harassment campaign to rival Scientology
>small town turns against Handsome Jodie Foster because slander and gossiping hicks
>HJF debates and demoralises enemies until all hicks becomes culturally depressed and disenfranchised
>HJF learns life lessons about using words not violence and not taking status seriously or some bullshit
Really the whole book is about teaching people to shut the fuck up and keep their hands to themselves.
It's like social commentary?
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>set during the French wars of religion
>young impoverished member of the lower nobility joins the army in order to find fame and wealth
>he's a total fuck up
>finds a loveable Jacques esque sidekick
>the go on some wacky adventures and accidentally end up having a large impact on history through their loveable cock ups
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>>8116862
>she
time to kill yourself
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>>8116862

influenced by greg egan, like 'a kidnapping', 'permutation city' etc? :3
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>>8117846
a tour de france no less
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>>8117862
So basically Don Quixotte x The Hundred-Year-Old Man Who Climbed Out the Window and Disappeared x Jacques le Fataliste?
would read/10
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>Europe three decades from now. Northern Ireland, Germany and England.
>Yadda yadda
>Brutality, war, rape,
>Mainly centred on Germany
>Kid living in the safety of the countryside gets his home destroyed by a radical Islamic death squad, joins a band of ten other travellers fleeing the unrest which include an older fella who saw the collapse from the start, a young and ready kid ready tpo fight, an ex mercenary and a young Muslim girl carrying an infidels child from mixed marriage.
>Happenings in the European Parliament too

I'm only writing it because I dreamt it all recently while sleeping off a fever. Might self publish it on line for free, see what happens.

HINT: there wasn't exactly a happy ending.
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>musician does a lot of drugs
>records a hella good album
>makes mad dosh
>wanting to replicate this, does more drugs
>while recording the new album, accidentally discovers a jewish cult that holds a deep secret.
R8
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>>8118256
So you're basically writing Matt Pike's biography
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>>8116817
>Kid gets arrested
>Story flips back and forth between detective and kid
>Cat and mouse until they realize there was no murder
>The killer was hedonism and consumerism and it's enveloped them both without their realizing it
>One dies the other runs away from the modern world
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>>8118256
If this is real it's fucking terrible
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>>8116817
>boy falls in love with girl
>he asks her out
>she says yes
>their date goes well
>they become gf bf
>after 4 months they have a mutual break up
>they bith go on with their lives
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>>8118256
so, you're writing eyes wide shut but from the pianist perspective? coolio
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>>8116817
It's a screenplay but whatever...
>Young Parisian, who used to live with his mother near the French Riviera, lives now with his father, a guy from the high Bourgeoisie.
>The young Parisian is totally alienated in this huge city, he's stuck in an apathetic state.
>He tries to escape his existential ennui with a friend. They party and fuck drunk whores. Well, the main character doesn't because he's disgusted when a drunk whore he was about to fuck starts masturbating. The emotional connection he was seeking is lost because of her narcissistic act.
>He ends up meeting a girl in the metro. He sleeps with her and she steals his money before leaving him asleep in a hotel room.
>Our main character doesn't care. His father is rich anyway.
>Lost in a nightclub, he meets a drug dealer who defended him during a fight, a really charismatic guy who wants to make a deal with him : the main character will bring him to parties filled with bourgeois and let him sell drugs, they will then share the profits. The main character accepts but he doesn't really seem to care.
>The drug dealer introduces his girlfriend who happens to be the girl who stole the main character's money.
>The main character acts as if he didn't know her.
>The drug dealer and her are in an "open relationship". He produces cheap porn films for the internet and she stars in them.
>The hero does a bunch of shit with the drug dealer and the girl. They all have fun.
>Meanwhile, the hero falls in love with the girl after becoming her secret fuckbuddy. He starts to see meaning in life.
>They start to make their own plans behind the drug dealer's back. The hero sends her to seduce rich married guys and once they end up in hotel room, he breaks in, beats the rich guys up and takes their money.
>The drug dealer eventually understands what's going on. His girlfriend provokes him and he beats her up. He then sends a friend of his to get the main character.
>The main character escapes the beating.
>The girl calls the main character and plays the victim.
>The main character becomes furious. He calls the drug dealer and asks to settle this in a meeting.
>They meet up, get into a fight and the main character stabs the drug dealer.
>The hero asks the girl to leave toward the south of France. He tells her that he can't follow her because it will be too dangerous for her.
>The manipulative bitch asks for more money.
>She leaves.
>The last shot is a wide shot portraying the hero alone in the train station as the train leaves. He's doomed. He'll probably end up being killed or caught by the police.

Any feedback?
It can be improved, I know, I'm working on it.
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>first part is a dream-like free-flowing stream-of-consciousness where pronouns, time and space inexplicably shift
>details a romance that is failed (but laughably conceited) but the lover shift
>supposed to be the remains of consciousness removed of their sense of purpose or context
>mourns the passing of feelings unfulfilled, i.e. historical lovers that couldn't be
>second part
>dry account of a struggling author that's oh so witty and cunning and misunderstood
>the first part is actually a romanticized account of the narrator's infatuation with a vain art student
>the tragic aspect is that his poetry fails to be moving as his laughable, sardonic trials and tribulations unfold
>third part
>editor's note
>basically mocking the whole of the book that came before it, telling the author it's utter shite
>satire of the stuck-up elitist art circles
>broken up by some bit where genuine personal beauty creeps in
>deconstruction of the author's ideals and notions of beauty, meditation on the purpose on art in general
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>>8116862
10/10 would read
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>>8116862
>>8117961
this, l think it would be better if the protagonist was a male
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>>8118671
Dude, green texts are supposed to be something short, a summary, not the fucking bible
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>>8118671
Why is he using her to beat up rich guys for their money? You already established that he doesn't really care about money and it seems odd that he would use the girl for this when she has helped him "start to see meaning in life." It's one thing for him to team up with the drug dealer and let him into parties, because it's something to do, but that other part doesn't make any sense.

This just seems like an even more jumbled up My Own Private Idaho, in terms of a rich guy associating himself with people of a "lesser" stature and their degenerate lifestyle.
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>>8118717
Why?
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>aging butler going on a trip
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>>8118735
grandpa-grandson relationship > grandpa-granddaughter relationship
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>>8116817
Who is this ejaculation enchantress?
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>>8118728
Because she wants to earn more since the drug dealer uses her and takes everything. I should have mentioned it. I didn't see My Own Private Idaho though.
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>>8118846
Sue Lyon, she played Lolita in Kubrick's film. She gets me all kinds of hard.
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>>8118846
Don't talk about a little girl that way.
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Pic related
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>>8116834
huh
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>>8116835
This is fallout right
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>>8116817
>A group of people from around the world comes together be basically vigilantes/terrorists coz of muh justice
>President and VP trying to stop le evil mastermind
>President dies
>VP forced to bring some dumbass along with his escape
>Two timelines from now
>Timeline A is in the past. President and VP coming together with the idea for the organization and recruiting one person in a city for each chapter
>Timeline B is in the future. dumbass and VP finding the same people in the same chapter to kill mastermind
Timeline B is portrayed forward while A is reversed
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>Guy is depressed
>while trying to off himself, a chimpanzee stops him
>they become bestests of friends
>later is revealed the chimpanzee has terminal cancer
>at the funeral guy gives his eulogy about how the chimp taught him to live life at his fullest
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>>8117988
There will e a bit of Sharpe too!
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>>8119433
10/10
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> guys cock predicts where next bombings happen
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>a boy sits quietly in his room, waiting for the daily rainstorm to arrive
>the rainstorm begins
>he sits at his desk, methodically ripping pages one-by-one out of a collection books in order to add to his oragami-flowers-made-from-pages-ripped-from-stolen-library-books project
>he simultaneously listens to the rain's heavy patter, reaching a state one with himself and his oragami-made-from-book-pages and the world outside of his room
>he's very used to making these oragami at this point, so he closes his eyes to focus entirely on aural transmissions
>he can sense himself falling with the raindrops, and can no longer 'feel' his bodily senses
>this goes on
>eventually, he opens his eyes, walks to his closet and pulls out a tome of unknown origin
>flips to p. 326
>there is unrecognizable writings in green cluttering this page in particular, reason unknown
>the boy neatly rips this page out, and begins making it into an oragami flower
>he is called to dinner before its completion
>the daily rain has not yet ended
>the boy leaves his room & eats with his mother
>pork & green beans alone on his plate
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>futuristic man finds cache of lost books including the bible
>lost man tries to find the last plausible physical location of god, inside a black hole
>does he die, does he reunite with a physical god?
he dies
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>>8119582
you included a spoiler as if we actually give a shit
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>>8119590
:'{ why do you have to do this to me??!
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>>8116825
This desu senpai. If you have a plot that can be green texted easily you're writing a shit
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>>8119752
>Man goes around the city and finds a substitute for his lost son
>Another man goes around the same city and finds first man as a substitute for his lost father/intellecual mentor
>the first man's wife cheats on him and he cheats on her
Wow I guess ulysses is shit now
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>>8119752
>I'm in this thread to shit on people and too insecure to give my own story ideas so I say that a complex plot can't be greentext even though I probably think plot is irrelevant anyway
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>>8116817
I'll share it once I finish my first draft.
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>>8119752
if you can't explain the gist of your plot in a sentence or two then how the fuck will any publisher take you seriously ?
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It's a book divided in 4 parts. I may make an experimental film some time after finishing.

>18 or 19 year old pseudo-artist/pseudo-intellectual guy runs from home after a fight with his parents
>le no one understands me meme
>goes to live with careless alcoholic uncle
>he has no money for university so he plans to spend the next 6 months getting a job, working and in his free time to develop his intellect and art
>meets a girl and his brother, both literally aesthetically beautiful
>become good friends with them
>has to deal with the struggle of his ex girlfriend and beloved woman cucking him and using him as a sex toy
>starts looking for true love
>depression starts to develop
>deals with all his friends starting a new phase in their lives without him
>after some months, he's got a decent amount of money through working and selling drugs
>starts selling his artwork too
>shitty abstract pseudo-art, but it pays in modern society
>realizes all this struggle has made him much more mature
>also realizes his art is shit
=all his plans would fail in the future even if they seemed good in the start, life is harder than expected.

.cont?
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>20 Million years ago, Asteroid belt was another planet (lets call k) that was destroyed in a failed experiment
>Secret society on mars develops advanced weapon that destroys all biological life on the planet, male council develops tech to suppress the weapon, too late. All life ends on the planet.
>*eons go by*
>Earth evolves as it has, on its current path, ends in nuclear war, secret society emerges to continue life after a major disaster.
>They quickly advance technologically, much of the earths surface isn't livable, began to colonize the moon.
>200 or so years pass, population reaches capacity, colonize mars, Humanity has risen to multi-planetary race.
>Hierarchy emerges, earthlings think of themselves as the original planet, martians as lesser people.
>Earth has famine, requests help from both colonies; both send supplies to earth, advanced weapon located in the food moves out of suppression field and activates, kills biological life it comes in contact with, ruining the supplies.
>Earth blames Mars, tensions rise, war erupts.
>Reader finds out about the weapon invented eons ago

Rate? Thoughts?
I know it's long, I tried to make it as short as possible.
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>>8118750
Can't a grand daughter grand father relationship be just as good if not more so than a grandfather grand son relationship
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>life story of a guy
>goes to Oxford
>argues with his brother
>teaches at Oxford
>his father dies
>the family comes back together
>brother kills himself at Oxford
>main character gets cancer
>dies
>his diaries are discovered
>he becomes famous and hailed as a prophet after his death
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This is something that came to me in a semi-dream. It's not very original. It's not even a story, but it's a location for a potential story I guess. I don't know.

>human beings living in large and complex underground tunnels in a bronze era-like existence. Devoid of almost all technology we have today. Situated underneath unimaginably massive cities, all abandoned.

>Clans of strange, religious, cloaked creatures that talk in a foreign tongue live in the abandoned cities above. Monk-like, they only keep slight trade contact with the underground civilization. Nobody knows what they look like.

>The above world is full of myth and no knowledge of the previous civilizations or situations in the world. Forestation has taken back most of the world besides the skyrise portions of the city.
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>>8119752
>>8119948
>>8120088
I mean, you --can-- explain any story in a sentence or two, but not in any sort of nuanced way and you really shouldn't online in any way that gives well-defined details away before you've finished it, assuming you actually have any faith in your abilities and want it to be published.
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>>8120278
People expecting me to write the book out to them in total are fucking stupid and I hope you aren't implying it.

You can easily condense the most complex of books into something quick and easy, nuance isn't necessary because the book is supposed to have naunce not the description

When a book is your book, you will be the one to write it. Plagiarism is the least of my worries when half the faggots here say plot don't matter and the other half are pretending to like books anyway. The small amount of folks who could steal the idea usually care more about thier own shitty idea where they fantasize about thier lives in a different setting.
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>the story of Rhodesia
>a land both fair and great
>on the 11th of November it became an independent state
>this was much against the wishes of certain governments
>whos leaders tried to break them down and make them all repent
>but they were all Rhodesians, and they fought through thick and thin
>they kept that land a free land, stopped the enemy coming in
>kept them north of the Zambezi until that river ran dry
>and that mighty land prospered, because Rhodesians never die
Its fiction.
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>story of an Algerian guy who moves to Canada when he was 9, goes back to his country, feels very attached to his family who stayed there, but has to face an existential crisis as his two identities conflict within him

No one will want to read this shit.
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>>8121372
make sure to visualize his struggle with a moose wearing a suicide vest. better yet, have him throw syrup in his daughter's face when she resists marrying her uncle.
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>she sprung from my dreams and put me to sleep
>and those dreams began to bleed through

>"witch, lover, specter, why do you haunt me?"
>"because we are really just you"
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>>8116825
Smart anon...

Next time tho.
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>>8116848
This is the plot to hello....o? Or some indie game like that
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>>8116817
>Girl finds out she has Dissociative Identity Disorder
>she isn't the "true" personality
>Murder mystery maybe?
(none of the alters commit the murder, one of them is just an investigator)
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A short story I'm writing
>guy and wife live a normal suburban life with a daughter
>they love buying stuff because it distracts them from the emptiness in their life.
>one night at dinner the man is upset over what his wife had cooked, unaware that they had talked about it, this being the capstone of how they don't communicate.
>the next day both meet up with their mistress and talk about what's wrong.
>that night they begin talking about it, but find it difficult. Decide to buy something instead.
>story ends with man buying anew expensive luxury not solving the problem.

Might sound a bit pretensious, but I'm writing it after seeing my friend get swept up in consumer culture.
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>>8120236
This reminded me of a book that I read when I was younger (that's only vaguely to your idea), The City of Ember, by Jeanne DuPrau.
Damn... I haven't thought about that series since the shitty? in 2008...
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>>8121447
* shitty? movie, sorry
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>retards fuck up
>2 years later
>pic
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>>8118671
This is like 70% the plot of The Stranger
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>worst nightmare I ever had
>somehow sprang into my mind with all the hallmarks of a good horror story fully formed
>had fucking foreshadowing and one of those plots where all the disjointed elements click into place at the end
>was also fucking terrifying, like so much that I dont think Im a good enough writer to accurately convey just how awful it was
I've had dreams before that could be adapted into the base of a good story, but never before one that's a fully story only needing to be set onto paper. The sheer length and content can probably be ascribed to the 14 hour slumber after a brush with a cold death, but I've never even heard of a dream being "generated" out of order but seen in the proper one. Maybe my memory revised itself as it went along, but it sure didn't feel like that.
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>>8121467
Really? I read it and I don't remember it to be like that at all.
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>>8116848
Nice
But how did he find out she was from a different universe ?
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>>8116848
Finds a way even on /lit/
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>plot
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>>8121423
Ever read Identical? It's YA and it poetry verse but it was a nice plot twist.
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>be a dog
>master drives down a path into a clearing in the woods
>master leaves the car
>huh, master sure is taking a long time
>I'm sure he'll be back soon
>any second now
>oh god, he's not coming back
>have to drink rain water from out of the cracked car window
>getting really hungry
>oh shit, a fucking bird just flew into the crack in the window and broke it's fucking neck
>dinner.png
>why is the world keeping my alive?
>I must be meant to live, I'm going to survive this
>fucking die

Basically it follows the emotions of an abandoned dog as it slowly starves to death and his mood as he goes from feeling betrayed to feeling absolute helplessness, hope, etc. It's only a short story.
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I'm not going to tell you the plot of my book, but I will ask for your help.

I have no idea what direction to go in with my story, characters, or setting.
I just have the idea and don't know how to execute it. So what do I do? How do I make myself interested again?
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>>8125401
I usually just think a lot about them. I spend all of my free time thinking about how the characters would act in different situations and how the setting built the character. And just sort of toy around mentally like that for the entire writing process, then I work on outlines, I build out a long description of the character, their every attribute, their physical properties, thought processes, and all of that. I do this on paper until I basically write an entire book just about this one character. Most of the stuff I don't intend on putting in the story, but it's good to flesh out the character. Then I work on the setting. I draw a map of everywhere the character goes in the story (the plot should be outlined as well by this point) and I get into really specific details, I draw the places near the setting of the story, places that the character may never interact with or may never even be mentioned, but it's good to flesh it out. Knowing these characters and setting as deeply as this makes writing the story mostly about the right words at this point, which can admittedly be pretty difficult.
As for being inspired to stick with an idea. This might not work for everyone, but I also paint, so I paint out different partd from the story and seeing it in visual a visual medium, particularly one as beautiful as paint is to me, breaths new life into my passion without fail for me. I don't know how this could be used for those of you who can't paint, but I'm sure their is something this can be translated to.
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>>8125658
>I build out a long description of the character, their every attribute, their physical properties, thought processes, and all of that.
But how do you decide what they're like? How do you decide what they look like?
How do you decide what stuff makes it into the story or not?
I have background information for my character (maybe), and I don't want to force it into the story, but it's kind of important.
It's all the more difficult because I don't know people like my characters, I don't even have any friends.
I just know characters like the characters.
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>Oh no its satan!
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>>8125807
Well, I may not be the best person to ask because even though I do all that planning and outlining there is a madness to my method. It just comes to me at random moments of inspiration. I literally get all of my ideas at random. So I think you just kind of have to be like naturally creative or smart or something to do it because I have no idea where any of my ideas come from.

Or you could study phycology and use that to write characters. That would probably help.
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>It just comes to me at random moments of inspiration. I literally get all of my ideas at random. So I think you just kind of have to be like naturally creative or smart or something to do it because I have no idea where any of my ideas come from.
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>>8118689
sounds like total shit! nice!
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>implying
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>>8118010
Your book isn't going to be very good

>>8118256
No

>>8118671
>The hero sends her to seduce rich married guys and once they end up in hotel room, he breaks in, beats the rich guys up and takes their money.
This part doesn't really work. I don't think any scheme like that could work more than a few times. Exclusively, repeatedly targeting rich people is bound to go wrong very quickly. It's weird, its implausible, and it isnt important to the plot

I guess the big problem is, why does the hero care about her? What does he see in her?

The relationship is the heart of the story, and right now it seems dead. It's not clear what he sees in her, and she doesn't care about him at all, so it's going to be hard for the reader to get emotionally involved. The main character is sort of pitiful, but based on your outline he doesn't sound especially interesting or sympathetic

All that being said, its interesting and it could be a good story

>>8119433
GOAT

>>8119582
This sounds like a story that its going to be hard to get emotionally involved with. Idk. Don't stop trying, but the story needs to be more than just that

>>8120093
tell us the rest of it, you attention whore
also, so far that looks like /r9k/ the book

>>8121372
If its really good, people might want to read it
If you summed up the plot of Ulysses in a single sentence it looks like shit, but its still interesting

>>8121446
That sounds miserable and frustrating to read, but thats probably what youre going for
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>>8116817
>Nothing
>"Nothing"
>Something
>Some action
>Some creature
>Some suffering
>Some collective
>Some creation
>All death.
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>>8116848
Sounds like the perfect plot for a YA novel.
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>>8125807
>It's all the more difficult because I don't know people like my characters, I don't even have any friends. I just know characters like the characters.

I'm right there with you on all points. My main character is a mash-up of the Canal+ Cesare Borgia, my more manic drug-use days, Ser Jorah Mormont, and something entirely his own. My deuteragonist is basically Harry Crane from Mad Men. I really need to draw them out, I think.

My sister and I brainstormed this: Think of traits you like for your character and write them down on paper. Abstracted like this, the image you have of them will sort of fade. Then, you can take those traits and draw them yourself, creating (hopefully) a brand new character.

As for all of your other questions, for myself personally I find that personality and story details both come from character motivation. My story is really a landscape made from the relationship of the two main characters and their quest. Like, these places exist for them, and so do the events of the story. But then again, what I'm writing is extremely psychological.
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>>8125401
Find "rechargers" like brewing coffee, watching the news, going for a walk or run, driving around, reading, starting or continuing to work on other projects, things of that nature.
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>>8125196
God, that sounds really painful to read. Did master kill himself?
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>>8121467
That was a very idiotic thing to say.
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>>8125996
I'm not even sure which one is my deuteragonist and which one is my protagonist anymore.
>Think of traits you like for your character and write them down on paper.
As in what I would want them to be like? Doing that sounds wrong.
I'm a stickler for accuracy and both my characters are former gang members.
I'm also extremely indecisive.
Since I'm writing a sci-fi about systematic racism I suppose my characters come more from their world than the other way around.
But I'm having trouble with the setting too. It switches in my mind between LA, NYC, and Chicago.
>personality and story details both come from character motivation
I was so set on trying to figure out what my set proagonist's motivation is that the set deuteragonist doesn't have one, at all. Fuck.
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>>8120141
Did nobody notice the world-ending weapon in the food stores before they shipped it off to Earth? How do you intend to write this?

Also if war starts between Mars and Earth, is the irony that it happened by a freak accident, or is it a 'human nature is to make war' type deal? Because I think that would also depend on whether the original species on mars was human or not.

Might be interesting. Like the idea of martian-earthling dispute. Could make it a revolutionary-type parallel with the British colonial collapse or something, that would give you a lot of history and lit to make allusions to. Spies or shit, quartering in martian residences, loyalists and revolutionaries both trying to "save lives", etc.
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>>8126028
Physical traits, I mean. It may contribute to personality, however.
Your deuteragonist wouldn't need a motivation if, say, he only sought to protect the protagonist.
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>>8126051
Oh, I don't even have any specific physical traits pinned down, except their race.
I'm still trying to figure if my characters should be closer or more spread apart in age.
>Your deuteragonist wouldn't need a motivation if, say, he only sought to protect the protagonist.
The way I have things now, it's the protagonist's motivation to protect the deuteragonist, not that she really needs it.
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>be early renaissance Europe
>a young broke noble is looking for a way to not be broke
>he meets an enterprising commoner who's amassed a bit of wealth
>they combine the noble's prestige with the commoner's business savvy to create an entrepreneurial enterprise
>hijinks and merriment ensue for a while and everything ends up well

COMMONER SENSE: A COMEDY IN THREE PARTS
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>Takes place in Reconstruction era North Carolina
>Protagonist is the black sheriff of a small town near Greensboro
>The sheriff is trying to form a militia so that the local Negroes can defend themselves against the Klan
>The Klan don't take kindly to this and attempt to lynch the sheriff
>They fail after a shadowy figure opens fire on them, wounding their leader
>The sheriff arrests the wounded Klan leader, sparking the ire of his psychopathic daughter, who makes it her personal mission to kill the sheriff and everyone he loves and holds dear
>Violence ensues
>Over the course of one bloody night the sheriff manages to run down the daughter and her allies, stamping out the local Klan in the process, but at great cost
>President Ulysses S. Grant shows up at the end to commend the sheriff and offer him the chance to become a U.S. Marshal
>Sheriff accepts, leaving the story wide open for a sequel, etc.
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>>8126095
Reminds me of that show with Kat Dennings.
Maybe your story won't suck, but it still won't have her tits, so it's a wash as far as I can tell.
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>A strung-out teenager amidst the ruins of past addictions and stark poverty seeks to escape with his younger pregnant girlfriend the destitute surrounding of a poor rural ghetto through the opportunity of his distant, half-witted, crooked uncle's antique heist.

Short story, maybe ten to twenty pages.
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>>8126095
I would read that but you would have to be a seriously prolific author to pull off something of such size and not a hack. Good luck
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Main plot
>A East European adolescent Is stuck in america during a zombie apocalypse.
>Manages to survive the Initial Outbreak and the destruction of the Russian .
>One day during scrounging up supplies, a person comes towards him with a proposition.
>He will be allowed to return to his country of origin, if only he house someone for a week.
>Against his better judgment he agrees if only because the chance to reunite with his family seems to be worth the risk.
subplot
>A woman in the American sector decided she wants to avenge her friends and those who lost loved ones to that psychopathic 'Russian' in the Dark zone.
>After a few days of searching for him, she is able to find him during his night time raids. she gives a speech on how he's a monster and how she's here to kill him.
>after a few minutes of fighting, he humiliates her and robs her.
>She decides to get help from her friends who went to Black-light (The american sector's reformed S.W.A.T)
>After which they discover a plot to destroy the Rescue Station from a group of infected people
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>submersible crew in the near future travel to the most unknown depths of the ocean
>they eventually discover there is somehow no pressure, no sense of any sort of life or physical awareness, and that they can breathe perfectly outside of the submersible
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>A successful, self published, anonymous self-help author has his online identity stolen
>The imposter then comes out to the world as him, gains a lot of publicity.
>The author is unfazed, finishes last page of his latest book.
>He goes to upload the ebook on amazon and the imposter has hacked his account so he can't. Everything has been hijacked by the imposter, including bank accounts.
>The author tries to recover his nebulous identity, by employing the self help skills he's been teaching all his life.
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>>8116817
>man takes drug giving him total control over his dreams, including control over time, giving him infinite time in this dream world
>eventually forgets he is god when he pretends to be a mortal/npc of the dream-world
>accidentally creates godless universe when he makes the dream-world self sustaining
>over time he attempts to figure out this universe as a line of mortals, beign reborn into his descendants
>realizes it was he who created the universe
>wakes up
i just made that up, how shit is it /lit/? who am i subconsciously copying?
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>>8126228
morrowind
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>>8126259
oh shit
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>a cuck whose father and son are dead
>he wanders around LONDON
>tormented by his daughter's blossoming sexuality and by the fact that he's a Jew and an outsider
> encounters his acquaintance's son
>the kid is an intellectual and lacks a fatherly figure
>and they both realise how much they need each other after a night of debauchery
>they depart nonetheless
>the cuck goes to bed and asks his wife for breakfast in bed
>she gets wet because he's finally a man


r8 my plot senpais
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>>8118880
She also married a nigger.
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>>8126401
6.75/10 without yaoi
10.75/10 with yaoi
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>>8118930
Or boy and his dog
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>>8121331
stop giving me the feels anon
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>>8116848
laughingbitches.jpg
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>twentysomething guy
>pretentious as fuck art student
>small time weedguy
>breaks up with gf
>starts to aimlessly wander the streets
>hears gf fuck everything that moves as coping
>goes hermit
>becomes ironically religous
>in the end he really becomes catholic
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>man eats psychedelics
>his roommate, a dog and a prolific writer, apparently kills himself leaving an incoherent note that he's not really dead
>man has to get a loan for the funeral
>stumbles on to a conspiracy between a doomsday cult, neo-luddites and a radical sisterhood of nuns
>all this happens while he's high on mushrooms
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>>8116834
dig
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>>8116987
C'est L'etranger.

>THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD
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I had a really unique plot going with a shitton of magical realism, until I took 99% of it out, and now it doesn't seem quite as interesting.
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>>8126095
I would have set this in pre-revolutionary France, but it could work. Make sure you get just the right level of cheese.
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>plot
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>>8126158
Would read, but i think in the end he should give up trying to reclaim his identity to instead create a new one.
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I've been trying to work out a plot with a setting like that of Boyz N The Hood, involving alchemy, pelicans, and mushrooms, but it's going nowhere.
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>>8126113
Sorry to burst your bubble friend, sounds neat but considering the first black policeman in NC wasn't hired until around 1907, it's totally historically inaccurate
Unless you don't care, in which case have at it
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>yurop has been rekt by a war related to nationalism, muslims and kikes
>a guy and his friend's daughter survive
>some plot and action and whatnot, just to push the story forward
>the world turns out to be not that bad after all

I was tired of all the depressing dystopian shit that gets constantly published. I wanted to create a contrast between what we have and what we really need, nothing too deep or serious, but far away from the old "I miss the life I didnt like to begin with" every other zombie shit or nuclear wasteland meme books and movies keep on pushing. Theres also some romance and some pop culture references in an obvious attempt to appeal to quirky "omg he is just like me" faggots.

Dont judge me, I want money.
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>>8125991
>>8122540
>>8121413
Its a spicy /a/ meme.
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>Hawaii secedes from the united states
>A rag tag Hawaiian military invades the US mainland
>They hold the Seattle mayor hostage in his office
>Gaia visits a corporal on the rooftop
>The pair fly on a spiritual waka to Colorado
>Talk about their families and life
>They swim at the base of a waterfall and make friends with hippies
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>extremely well read, young writer spends years writing what he believes to be the next great literary novel
> it gets published
> but is marketed as Young Adult fiction
> huge success
> writer mentally deteriorates as he realises he's not a genius even though he's certain he is
>culminating in him going on wild rant on television about plebs and how his work is misunderstood ending in humiliating tears
> book really is YA trash full of pseud references
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>retrospective POV over ten years later
>boring af cuck protagonist, possibly autistic, college-age with best friend in a relationship
>friend kills himself in high school
>cuck MC falls in love with best friend's girl and fucks her
>best friend's girl gets sent to a sanatorium due to power of his dick
>MC meets sexually liberated, stronk girl and builds somewhat of a relationship
>girl 1 offs herself
>MC goes back to girl 2
>where am I?
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>>8127133
Norwegian Wood
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>>8127133
>MC comes inside pianist hotmom-tier former psycho like 6 times in a row

That's a wrap.
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>>8127101
I'd read it
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>>8126944
Actually, there was a man named Wyatt Outlaw who was appointed (and subsequently elected) Town Commissioner and Head Constable of a town in North Carolina in 1869/70.

He was appointed by the governor, but still held the position until being lynched by the Klan in 1870.
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>>8127206

4 times.
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>>8119752
>a long-lost powerful artifact is uncovered in a mythical land, and it is up to a young man and his companions to make the journey to destroy it, in order to defeat an old enemy who has risen again to threaten the whole world.

One of the best (if not the best) trilogies ever made summarized in one long sentence.
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>An employer kills himself, and his suicide letter is a gleaming review for one of his employees. Now without a job, that employee must find work with only the note as a reference, while also trying to figure out why it was what the man decided to leave behind in the world as his last musings.
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>>8127101

Ouch
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>>8127309
Bad idea?
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>>8118551
Pulitzer inbound
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>>8127340

very good.
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>>8127366
Thank you anon
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>Man, office life. What a bore. Lets get some drinks!
>Wish my father didn't talk me into going into the advertising business.
>All women suck, I wonder why that is. Hope it's not me.
>Remember making movies back in college? I want to do it again so bad!!!!
>Chill, bro. It's just a prank vid for YouTube.
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>>8116817
>>8127423
Read this as "Greentext the plot of the books you're reading."
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Just an idea I had last night.

Background:
>massive financial crash happens in in 2022 (no sci-fi, basically todays technology)
>caused by collapse of petrol markets and the petro-dollar

Plot:
>Small private prison in Norway
>the guards receive a call that the company operating the prison has gone into liquidation
>the phone the municipal government and essentially get told the government is now bankrupt and they are on their own, need to figure this bit out
>all support staff, cooks, psychologists etc, leave
>A few of the guards stay, they live in the prison and no plan has been layed out for the remaining prisonsers
>I suppose six or so guards, a handful of named prisoners
>four of the guards represent a specific political and ethical system of though in regards to how the prison should be run etc

Don't really have a plan other than vague ideas, i.e. one guard greatly dislikes a pedophile inmate, two of the guards decide on the of the inmates must be innocent and invite him to join the guards etc

I feel it would work better as a small play, but who just reads scripts?
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>>8127454
Great idea
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>Peruvian 'intellectual' goes full broke and discovers his wife has cancer
>looks for sketchy jobs in Lima (Peru's capital) in hope to be able to affort her treatment
>finds a guy who offers him a job that consist in delivering a package to the jungle part of the country
>He accepts and begins his journey, in the way he encounters several interesting people who will tell him peruvian and latin american myths and legends
>realizes he's basically a moden day 'chasqui' (inka messenger)
>starts suspecting he's being sent to his death
>opens the packageand finds a book
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>>8127490
Still writing so 'to be continued'
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>Squire struggles for years to become a knight
>highest order of knighthood is dragonslaying
>finally saves damsel and becomes knight
>been working entire life, training mentally and physically to hunt dragons
>finally gets to go on hunting trip overseas
>as soon as the group of knights gets out of sight of the country they start partying
>our knight is confused
>they tell him they made up dragons so knights could go to mainland Europe to party for a month every year and come back and be treated as heroes
>goes on for years
>our knight finally exposes this to the ignorant King
>offers him infinite gold to shut the hell up about it
>the people need the Knights to be heroes not liars
>he takes the money and lives out his days as a comfy baron in a castle with a wife and son who we expect to be knighted later on

I am the next Gerald Morris

Rate me
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>>8127508
I understand that it is a fantasy idea.
But the idea of popular support in that sort of era is quite ridiculous and knights weren't particularly revered in the grand scheme of things.

People dig vague historical accuracy in their fantasy nowadays
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>The Recognitions rewritten to about 150 pages with accessible language and marketed towards teenagers.
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>>8127554
I just want to sell shit that I would have liked as a kid honestly
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>>8116817
A talented board game designer is so resentful about public disinterest in not only his work, but board games in general, that he imposes upon himself a delusional self-perception by continually proclaiming to be the most eminent genius of his time while secretly acknowledging how hubristic and ridiculous this is. Eventually what started as a defense mechanism against his own neurotic insecurity causes him to begin dehumanizing everyone else and treating them in an increasingly abusive way until some sort of downfall (trying to walk a line between edgy and trivial so that part is still an open question). Its very much in the spirit of Confederacy.
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>>8125980
I'm the guy who's writing a screenplay. Thank you very much for your feedbacks.
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>A pandemic wipes out most of humanity
>The world is divided up into different zones depending on the level of civilisation that survived there
>A bodyguard in one of the best zones is framed for murder and is exiled into the zone where humanity barely exists
>Has to live out there in the ruins of the old world while people in the good zone try to gather evidence in support
>A mercenary is dispatched to locate this person and kill them
>Has to travel through various zones to reach them

I'm thinking of populating the dead zones with monsters and new kinds of animals but I don't want it to be too similar to STALKER, though that is certainly the atmosphere I want to convey.
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This came from a dream but

>Mother and daughter household
>daughter dies every three years, comes back to life
>before she dies, mother gets a call from a younger sounding version of daughter screaming for help
>trying to find out what happens, turns out its a parallel/alternate universe glitch
>In one of the parallel words, it's stuck in time, a certain period of time is repeating where the daughter was left home alone when she was around 13 and three men went in there and raped and killed her
>daughter was able to call somehow her mother but to a different universe
>The mother daughter alive in universe A, then find out about parallel universes, want to put a stop to it.
>Go to the alternate universe, to try and find killers b4 kill daughter
>It ended with older version of the daughter finding the 13 year old daughter in the trunk of a car mummified and the wife of one of them men who raped and killed her chasing her around with a chainsaw.


Or not.
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>>8116817
>Advices to fix my country, politically, socially, and economically.
>Long explanation about my philosophy of life.
>Human race is so fucked up... my project will never become a reality.
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>doctor moonlights as an assassin
>things seem great, super great
>shit goes down quick sharp
>council of merchants have decided they don't like having a group of crime lords and assassins in their city
>gunpowder and bayonets for everyone
>doctor gets to watch his comrades get hanged
>one of whom is his long time on / off lover
>exiled to a frozen coastal wasteland
>forced to work at an industrial fishery that is also a penal colony
>helps the warden's daughter survive after she is stung by a sea snail by performing a tracheotomy
>get cornered by two guards in a fat processing plant
>saved by tall savage girl who wanted to pay him back for helping the warden's daughter
>platonic relationship based on mutual respect ensues
>eventually engineers a prison riot and steals a boat to escape
>returns to his home city state which has since become unstable and threatened by invasion because REVENGE
>"Surprise, you have a daughter she never told you about!"
>alchemical machinations and cunning plot twists ensue
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>>8127101
Literally everyone here
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>>8126747
would read
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A trio composed of a military chick, a truebro and his beta teenage brother go on the run from some bandits, ending up accidentally murdering an "Angel", seek refuge with the government, befriend a benefactress who turns out to be an "Angel" who they also subsequently murder, truebro gets murdered by a whodunit, they go on the run again from an asshole Sephiroth clone who turns out to be the President, a military chick /ss/'s with the beta then falls into a coma after killing Sephiroth, beta grows up and murders "god", military chick wakes up, Sephiroth returns and tries to fuck up the world, military chick winds up murdering the beta after it turns out he IS the Sephiroth clone.
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>Having a plot
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>>8118010
>an older fella who saw the collapse from the start

You mean /pol/ ?
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>>8118010
sounds fun. how good it is depends on how good a writer you are. Only 30 years, though? That makes it seem not like a plausible future but just like what it's what you think will happen in a near future.

I think it'd be a lot more interesting if it wasn't semi-apocalyptic but rather so few police and all focused on the big cities that the country-side is basically lawless (it already is in most places in Europe).
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>>8121331
>mfw I think about what Rhodesia could have been
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>>8120209
Well, minus the last point, seems dangerously similar in plot to Stoner
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>>8126005
I'd like to keep it open ended to the reader, but I suppose that makes the most sense.
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>>8128198
Good idea or bad idea though?
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>>8117048
write that shit id read it i think others would too
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>>8127454
That happened with Bergen Belson, Anne Frank was there and died of disease malnutrition four weeks before the allies liberated it
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>In a fit of terminal ennui a disenfranchised young man learns afrikaans and flies to Central Africa to join an ethnic militia
>Ends up even more bored than before
>Gets shot
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>>8127101
Why read it when while i will be experiencing in the future
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>>8116817

>multiple time lines

>pieces of a families ancestral life

>starts out with the most modern who tells the story of how he doesn't relate to his family. He has never felt as if there was a deeper connection with him and his parents.

>the most modern is the movement of the story and it takes place only within a few hours

>the modern portion is divided between chapters for ancestral people of the family

>mother, father, and grandfather

>the last bit of the modern portion to end the book the reader finds out that they are the modern characters parents

>modern character was adopted

>modern character has found this out recently as he has just met his real parents prior to the story beginning

>utterly depressed and mentally ill he goes home to the family he was adopted by, grabs his fathers gun, walks into their living room and shoots himself
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>a shitty memoir response to a former lover's published novel
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>12 year old girl
>18 year old girl
>they meet
>they fall in love
>they sleep together
>loli's older brother finds out
>beats older girl to a pulp and calls the cops
>older girl killed by police
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>>8129786
>loli comes to her grave with a bouquet of wild flowers...

wait, do they bury pedophiles in graves in your book, i mean, if cops kill pedos on spot they likely don't allow them conventional graves too
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>>8129786
Does this take place in colombia or something I don't get it
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>>8129798
Actually, the loli says at the end, "Maybe oniichan was right. Maybe she really just wanted me for my body."

>>8129800
>Being shot by police
>Anywhere other than America
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>>8116862
Was the simulation actually her granfather?
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>>8129817
>Actually, the loli says at the end, "Maybe oniichan was right. Maybe she really just wanted me for my body."
>Maybe oniichan was right
>oniichan

i feel a certain twist in the plot...

>>8129834
was the ship of theseus actually the ship of theseus? :^)

also a valid point, it's the most interesting about all those simulations, the question of their identity, or soul if you please, not of the relationships with them or of their adventures in the virtual world

egan who wrote quite a bit about simulations ('diaspora' is fantastic btw, it also describes how an artificially created simulation of a human aquires conscience) didn't really go deep into it, but considering that he is a materialist it's no wonder... for him the copy is the same as the object
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also the idea about meeting your late relatives when they are of a different age in the afterlife was explored even by mark twain, you don't need computer simulations as a plot device for that, i mean his 'captain stormfield's visit to heaven'
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>>8126844
Not really
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>A pedophile is seduced by a nymphet in his house.
>somehow she gets a concussion and dies in her sleep.
>He hides the whole situation and buries the corpse in the backyard under rocks.
>A bunch of fungi grows out of the burial spot and grows a face similar to that of the girl.
>pedophile ejaculates onto the fungi’s face and a few weeks later, he notices a fetus growing out of the growth of fungi.
>premature fungi baby is plucked from the fungi growth and the man tries to take care of it.
>He learns that it only feeds on blood from paper cuts.
>He learns that it only feeds on blood from paper cuts. He then abducts the lower end of society into his home to bind them and give them paper cuts from pages of a grimoire.
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>>8130267
top edge.
sounds pretty good though i guess.
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>>8121467
was thinking that myslef as I read
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>>8118671
It would be good as a video game
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>a young jazz cat from chicago slips on the sidewalk, dies
>a cop investigates the scene, suspects foul play
>forced to take leave after pissing in another cop's locker
>follows a lead from the scene, travels the country
>fuckery and violence ensue
>all the clues point to him
>he unwillingly shoots himself in a show of devotion to his job
>survives, finds the heart of america
>becomes a jazz cat
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>main character is a short woman
>she only becomes shorter as time goes on
>in the end, she's too short and gets thrown out of an amusement park ride
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>boy lives in shitty family
>ever since he was a kid he's been seeing some apparition often found hiding in convenient places
>one member is a girl who's heavily implied to be a heroin addict/NEET
>parents resent her because they see her as a freeloader
>everyone else in the family is validated in their hatred of her
>they all talk publicly about how worthless she is and sometimes behave incredibly cruel
>the boy is in a stasis between hating her and feeling empathy for her
>eventually she dies
>at the funeral, everyone in the family pretends to have loved her as fake tears stream from their eyes
>the boy is the only one who truly regrets her death
>he becomes convinced that the mysterious figure he's been seeing is the cause of all this misfortune
>when next he sees the spectre, he runs after him and pummels his face in for a number of minutes, until eventually he realizes that his face isn't bloodied
>he looks at the spectre's face and in it he sees his own
>it disappears
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>guy writes a book detailing the answer to life
>guy gets on a ship to find the answer to life

>they're both morons
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>two white college-aged male writers publish alternative lyrics to "Devil Went Down to Georgia" about gay rape
>goes viral
>they tell the world that they're black trans women
>Melissa Harris-Perry writes an article slandering them
>internet pressures force her to meet with them to confront
>they spout roundabout philosophy and troll her
>she leaves, pissed
>aforementioned gay rapist shows up in front of college-aged males' office and shoots himself for his infamy
>"I didn't kill him, he killed himself! I don't believe in grand narratives"
>random white libcuck shoots author of lyrics
>other white college-aged male confesses love for Melissa Harris-Perry, that he thinks he might be a lesbian black trans women.
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>>8130845
good luck finding a publisher
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>>8116834
>Based on a true story
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>guy works in fast food
>hates everything
>kills manager
>goes outside and smashes a bunch of cars in the drive through
>gets caught by popo
>convicted at court
>goes to prison
>gets stabbed by a nazi
>all the while he's explaining random historical trivia to noone
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>>8130849
I love the smell of my own farts way too much to not eat the eggs I cook, ya know?
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>>8130863
Is the reason why I don't understand that analogy because it's bad, because I'm dumb, because it's late, or all three?
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Can someone comment on mine?
It's >>8116977

I was pretty vague because I didn't want to give away any key details, but still.
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>>8130900
I'm just going to assume he's comparing himself to Joyce since he brought up farts.
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>>8130934
It'll sell to 4channers, so maybe 2 people will read it.

Dunno man, will need a bit more info. Whaddya mean by shit posts? You're gonna have your character browsing the intratubes?
Why does the fuckbuddy want those people dead?

The ?????, etc doesn't help. What sort of apocalypse?
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>>8130934
are you serious?
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>>8130934
It's a bit too vague. You didn't put very many details in at all, so I can't really analyze it. Does he get fucked at the beginning of the book or something? That'd be interesting.

What I'm getting is that there's two fuckbuddies, and one of them will only give the other sex if they commit horrible acts for them. In that case, my advice is to make sure to make the fucking very sparse, but describe it like a champ. I mean really go into detail. The main character's own irrepressible need to quench their thirst will parallel the reader's, which works as a nice way of luring them in, as well as a means of delving into that character's psyche through one's own sexual desire while reading it.
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>>8130862
Any opinions anyone?
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>guy isolates himself from a city wide zombie apocalypse
>suspicious of everyone who comes close to his dwelling
>kills any and all Zombie infectees for the greater good
>Suspicious person of unknown origin tells him to safeguard someone for a week and he will be allowed to return to his family
>He agrees
>Unknown to him, he just became a new cog in a grand scheme of things
>goes outside and scrounging a bunch of important items in ground zero
>gets caught by USMC force in the american sector of the city
>They arrest him for all the murders of Zombie Infectees
>During his little stint in the holding cell, the conspiracy is unraveling
>He's now a chess piece of a long game
>All while remaining oblivious
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>>8130862
yawn
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>>8130955
The same kind you see here but a bit more purposeful. She has a fetish for atrocities, there's more to it than that, but I don't want to put too many details here. And it's an abstract surrealist apocalypse.
>>8130959
I'm 60% of the way through writing it so yes.
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>>8130970
You're not entirely off the mark, but the descriptions will mostly be fairly vague and uninvolved for certain plot-based reasons.
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>>8130860
kek
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>>8127454
You'll have to address the tension of letting inmates out of their cells without the prison system to protect them. The inmates can't stay there forever, and a lot of them will probably be openly hostile towards the guards.
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>>8127602
Non-fatally injuring a child?
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>>8131076
>zombie apocalypse

DROPPED
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>>8131081
How so? Is the entire concept fucked, or could some changes be made?

It's supposed to be a short story
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>>8119433
Fuck you, I'm gonna steal this shit
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>>8126113
Sounds interesting and revisionist, but the ending is far too pat, unless you're willing to distort reality to something unreal. Which I absolutely recommend! If you can't give up that ending, make us really question the fabric of what you're writing.
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>>8126854
I dunno, was it a necessary change or were you reacting to criticism? Because in my book, the latter's a big no-no.
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>>8129198
Thank you. I think the direction it's taking is like... hallucinogenic historical revisionism. Like, nothing will happen as it actually did and all the eras will be mixed together. It should also be pretty funny. I have a shtick for the deuteragonist where he is so afraid of his own shadow that as he's dragged along with the protagonist he proactively saves his own hide by becoming a courtesan, a concubine, and at one point: Adolf Hitler. Imagine "Mein Kampf" but not delusional, like an actual struggle: "I'm in prison, get mich out of hier!"
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>>8129817
Have you ever read Indian law on murder? It's really funny because while a lot of it makes "first world" sense a lot of it is really absurd and kind of horrific for what it overlooks.
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>>8130754
Woah. Seriously.
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>>8127739
That could be great apart from the chainsaw thing.
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>>8131192
It's Norway. Probably a white-collar prison-resort where the inmates and guards get on.
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A combat surgeon infiltrates the enemy camp and silently and proficiently destroys the logistics of all medical equipment and terminates enemy personnel through rapid dispatchment.

This is his wife.
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>young man wakes up in a mysterious facility totally alone
>walks outside and shit is cold
>makes his way to a nearby military base, finds out over 300 years have passed since he remembers falling asleep at his home
>in the interim, humanity has colonised space, gotten into many wars, and the sol system has been invaded by mysterious aliens that have pushed mankind back onto Earth and to the brink of extinction
>earth has been driven to a nuclear winter due to a bombardment of asteroids by the ayys
>planetary union has fallen apart, and international politics continues in the face of the alien invasion
>he is conscripted into the remnants of the union military, and after displaying unusually high aptitude he is placed into a special operations unit that embarks on the top-secret Gaia Plan, an ambitious plan to end the war
>as it turns out the MC is actually a clone of the 'real' MC, with physical and mental enhancements created as part of a centuries-old black project
>the girl he hooked up with was his real version's great-great-great-great-granddaughter
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>>8131309
Yeah, the chainsaw I plan on taking out, just was rather jarring in the dream.

Not sure how to end it though.
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>>8130683
Is this a bait? If not, can you please explain your claim.
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>makes many twitter profiles
>lives out each of their lives on twitter
>gets sucked into doing it too much
>never lives IRL

meant to be bait for lit awards by square old lit people like the booker or pulitzer
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>>8132065
I think it needs to end tragically -- the mother manages to save her daughter somehow but with the knowledge that another version of herself has lost her daughter or something. Basically, some situation where the principle characters get what they wanted but also get heapings of guilt to deal with for how they acquired it. Watch Coherence if you haven't already.
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>>8132090
That's awesome, thank you!
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>>8126009
It's pretty accurate really, many striking similarities
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>>8128920
>argues with his brother
>the family comes back together
>brother kills himself at Oxford
>his diaries are discovered
none of these are in Stoner, try reading it first

>the main character is a professor
>dangerously similar
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fight club with lolis
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>man taking shit whilst on phone visits /lit/
>sees this post
>imagines another such man in this situation
>ad infinitum. For 800 pages
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>>8127429
Who the fuck reads 5 books at once?
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>>8116817
ancient aliums (human halfbreeds) live amongst the human population
a legit alium lands on earth to kill them all for being obama nations
jewmanity have to decide if they want to protect the mutts or kill them off to restore peace on planetos

the reptilians are like jews, the outlander is a superfam type guy
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>>8116848
That's actually cool.

So it's a video game plot or what?
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>>8131491
does he fuck her?
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>Guy loses everything and learns what it means throughout the book.
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>>8121446

This is basically White Noise, but instead of fear of death you've used relationship problems.
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>>8133670
>>8121446

Also, it's "pretentious".
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>tfw saving this thread to steal ideas from
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>>8116848
Started reading this thinking what trash, but it's actually preddy gud anon
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>kids grow up
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>>8133723
>mfw my ideas are so shitty no one wants to steal them
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>>8133793
don't worry
i'm stealing all the shit ideas and mixing them into a bigger one.
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>>8134032
>one gigantic turd of an idea
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>Late 20's ex mob associate tries to live honest life
>Wasn't big in the scene, just did odd jobs for henchmen growing up but saw enough to be considered a liability
>Works dead end job for a few years, drinks too much, and gambles on the side, in and out of homelessness, starts to hate life
>Agrees to high stakes poker match with old mob bosses and friends
>Needs the money to get rights to his son he hasn't seen in years because bitch ex wife
>Has to get help from loan shark
>Wins match but mob boss cries cheater
>Turns out associate that hosted poker match did have him win through methods of cheating only to get mob boss in a feud with Loan shark from another crime sect and needed main character as a fall guy
>Basically orchestrated the whole ordeal knowing main characters situation as they were close friends


Idk where to go after that... pls r8
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bump to steal ideas
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>>8116817
>Basically Dune
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> small-time PI in coastal town is brought in by police to assist with the murder of the Mayor. As his investigation continues, he discovers the Mayor's connections to an elaborate organ harvesting operation that reaches into the highest levels of the federal government.

It's garbage, isn't it?
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>>8133089
and striking dissimilarities, if one can call them that
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>>8133665
Boring description, great hook
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>>8133723
>mfw sending writing sample to critique group, saving the group leader's email and adding him to priority senders just in case he were to steal anything from me, so I could prove it
>even though he rejected my application to the group

That's right, I'm a little bit conceited. We all should be.
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>>8134353
Reminds me of the film Killing Them Softly. Great movie. Maybe you're not a movie guy but I think you might get a kick out of the similarities.
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