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>AMERIKA - KAFKA
>THE FEMALE QUIXOTE - LENNOX
>UNDER THE VOLCANO - LOWRY
CURRENTLY READING
>THE GOSHAWK - WHITE
>CAPITAL - PIKETTY
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>DEATH OF NAPOLEAN - RYCKMANS
>ON CINEMA - DELEUZE
>AS A MAN GROWS OLDER - SVEVO
>>8077114
>>THE FEMALE QUIXOTE - LENNOX
srs
>>8077127
what's the issue
>>8077130
it's a quixote-like parody of 18th century romance novels, are you a fancier of romance novels?
>last read
Renaissance Concepts of Method (Gilbert)
The New Science (Vico)
>currently reading
La Vita Nuova (Dante)
Satyricon (Petronius)
>next reading
The Films of Federico Fellini (Bondanella)
Roberto Rossellini: Magician of the Real (Forgacs)
I finished Notes from Underground by Dostoevsky a minute ago. I started and finished part 1 without stopping yesterday and did the same for part 2 today.
Holy shit I was not expecting this feels. I always thought Dosto was the kind of writer to take hold of one's soul but not to this degree. I don't even know where to begin.
I got Molloy by Beckett, Hunger by Knut Hamsun, and Death on the Installment Plan from my uni's library today. Not sure which one to start next, any recommendations? Also interested in anyone's thoughts on Underground since it seems to get recommended on /lit/ a lot.
>>8077154
No, but you don't have to be to get the joke. It's mocking the damsel in distress essentially-- a very basic concept. Even if you were somehow unfamiliar with the trope, you would pick it up through context. Same goes for Don Quixote and the chivalric
>>8077226
Er, well not quite the damsel in distress. I'll revise my own post. It's more the trope of the lady who demands that men suffer/go to battle for her. Arabella is in constant fear of rape and believes herself so beautiful that everything she commands of men must be obeyed out of respect for her honor as a lady. Damsel in Distress is a bit misleading...
>>8077114
Deep books OP. The few pages of Under the Volcano I read were really dense and hard.
Last Read
>Works - Edouard Leve
>Letters from a Seducer - Hilda Hilst
>Here, Bullet - Brian Turner
Currently Reading
>The Forever War - Dexter Filkin
Next Reading
>Keith Douglas's war poems if I can get to the library soon enough!
>Maybe some Japan book: Shiga Naoya or Death Sentences by Kawamata
>Castle, Lake, Cloud - Nabo
>Maybe something super lewd and inappropriate
>>8077197
Death on the Installment Plan is an incredible read. It's a little more stylistically difficult than Journey (Celine...really goes overboard on the ellipses...the whole novel's written like this...no chapter breaks like in Journey either...) but it's a cool effect. And it's fucking hilarious.
I'm new to real books
>Last read
The Stranger (Camus)
The first half of Thus Spoke Zarathustra (Nietzche)
>Currently reading
The Jungle (Sinclair)
>Next Reading
Discipline & punish by foucault (if I'm not too much of a pleb)
Batman: Year One (Miller)
The Gay Science (Nietzsche)
>Last Finished
Myth of Sisyphus
On the Heights of Despair
>Currently reading
The Sailor who Fell from Grace with the Sea
The Brothers Karamizov
>Plan to read next
The Rebel
Gardens of the Moon
>>8077114
FOR SALE
Last read:
The truce - mario benedetti
Thus spoke Zarathustra - Nietzchie
Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand
Currently reading:
Hopscotch - Cortazar
Ther Norse Myths - Kevin Crossley Holland
Next reading:
Behold a pale horse - william cooper
Essays in Persuasion - Keynes
Island - Aldous Huxley
>>8077114
Last Read:
>Couldn't Say, Might Be Love - Gil Orlovitz
>Milkbottle H - Gil Orlovitz
>Cannonball - Joseph McElroy
Currently Reading:
>A Frolic of His Own - William Gaddis
>Pale Fire - Vladimir Nabokov
>In Search of Lost Time - Marcel Proust
Next Reading:
>Take Five - D. Keith Mano
>Lunar Caustic - Malcolm Lowry
>The Beetle Leg - John Hawkes
LAST
>THE CASTLE - KAFKA
CURRENT
>THE CHANGING LIGHT AT SANDOVER - MERRILL
>DISCOURSE ON METHOD AND MEDITATIONS - DESCARTES
>JAMES JOYCE - ELLMANN
NEXT
>ULYSSES - JOYCE (RE)
>>8077289
Foucault isn't that bad. I just made the mistake of trying to read the entirety of History and Madness
Last:
>Great Gatsby
Current:
>Don Quixote
Next:
>The Sun Also Rises
Last: The Fifth Head of Cerberus
Current: Les Miserables
Next: The Last Unicorn
LAST READ
>OF MICE AND MEN
>BLOOD MERIDIAN
>SIDDHARTHA
CURRENTLY READING
>OBLOMOV
NEXT READING
>TOO MANY TO CHOOSE FROM BUT PROBABLY DUBLINERS OR THE BOOK OF DISQUIET
FIGHT ME YOU GAY RIGHTS ACTIVISTS
Last read:
>The Old Man and the Sea - Ernest Hemingway
>Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said - Philip K. Dick
>A Scanner Darkly - Philip K. Dick
Currently reading:
>Dune - Frank Hebert
>The Sword in the Stone - T. H. White
>Essential Celtic Mythology - Lindsay Clarke
To read next:
>The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch - Philip K. Dick
>The Once and Future King - T. H. White
>Mythology - Edith Hamilton
>>8078116
You must have truly met madness
>the shipping news - proulx
>ideas: a history of thought and invention from fire to Freud - watson
>dunno, maybe I will Continue With The Greeks, read some poetry or sci-fi,bot just listen to some academic podcasts
Last: The Metamorphosis
Current: The Metamorphoses (Coincidentally)
Next: Dubliners, POTAAYM
>>8077114
how was under the volcano
also how is goshawk
>last
Ubik - Dick
>current
The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch - Dick
>next
Not sure, maybe The Bell Jar, maybe I, Claudius, maybe Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius. Will decide later
>>8077114
Last read:
>Dubliners
>A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
>Walden
Currently reading:
>Don Quixote
Next reading:
>Brothers Karamazov
>War and Peace
>Paradise Lost
>>8077114
Last
>Falling Man - Dellilo
Current
>The Karamazov Brothers - Dostoevsky
Next
>Three Thebian Plays - Sophocles
Last read
>Reflections in a Golden Eye by Carson McCullers
>The Heart is a Lonely Hunter by Carson McCullers
>Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov
Currently reading
>The Conscience of Words by Elias Canetti
>Great Expectations by Charles Dickens
>Everything's an Argument by Andrea A. Lunsford and John J. Ruszkiewicz
Next reading
>A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess
>Down and Out in Paris and London by George Orwell
>The Member of the Wedding by Carson McCullers
I am tres satisfied with this list.
>>8081474
>Super Karamazov Brothers
>Thebian
>>8081538
The Karamazov Brothers is what the book is called. Ignat Avsey translation.
>>8077114
>Alice in Wonderland by Carroll
>H is for Hawk by Macdonald
>Through the Looking-Glass
>Nana by Zola
>next
Don' know, m8.
>>8081262
Under the Volcano was brilliant, though a bit difficult at times. The drunken stupor sections are the best, im not sure I've really had a handle on how debilitating alcoholism is until now.
The goshawk is a gem--the subject matter is so unique that im interested just picking it up for a few minutes in the morning before work. I had absolutely no notion of how people trained birds for falconry before this. It reads a bit like a more interesting, more humorous Walden. White was also one of those solitary misanthropes who lived in the wilderness. Not to say Walden is bad, I quite liked it--I just prefer this work so far
>>8081262
Not him, but Under the Volcano is probably the best portrayal of alcoholism ever put to page, and, in addition to that, contains some of the most clever and well-done usages of stream-of-consciousness I've ever read. Honestly, the only reason why Lowry isn't as popular as authors like Faulkner is the fact that most of his works were destroyed in a fire.
>>8077114
>Reading Picketty's Capital
>Confirmed Left Wing propaganda
Don't even waste your time senpai
>>8082850
Im not interested in his solutions, just the data. I'd rather make my own conclusions
>>8082882
No its his organizations of data that are biased. The entire viewpoint is whats skewed
>>8082885
I've heard from even my right-minded friends Woth degrees in Econ that his data/presentation is solid, but his solutions are dubious. do you have examples?
>>8082893
Check out the footnotes. He makes a lot of bold claims that arent actually backed up by his citations. Thomas Sowell has solid comentary on it. Its not about his solutions its his presentation of the data that misleads you
>>8082905
Hmm, I'll try and find Sowell's commentary once im finished. It's certainly possible, I'll just have to see
>>8077114
excuse me comrade but you have made the mistake of using Capital as the name of pikettys 'book'. a man who has only read the communist manifesto and used the title capital ( in the 21st century) to give some edge to his spineless keynesianism. in future you should only refer to Marx's magnum opus as Capital to prevent confusion with that Gallic nonentity. thank you
>>8082922
dispute*
>>8082912
Its quite a large book.. if the first 20 pages, the premise of the next 600, are lies why even bother
>>8077114
>last read
Aspects of Occultism by Dion Fortune
TBOK
>currently reading
A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
Imagined Communities
>next reading
Idk, probably Dubliners.
>>8082922
He does explain that inequaliry exists in any system. And yes Piketty is fearmongering with data that isnt even accurate and ideas that arent even economically solid. Dont even trust a modern econ major these days because theyre all brainwashed with Keynesian ideas as well. Consider the fact that contemporary leftists look to do things without considering the repercussions. Think the rise ofthe Welfare state its all part of.the same downward spiral
>last
Double Star (Heinlein)
Farewell To Arms
>currently
Wind-up Bird Chronicle
>next
idk yet
The funny thing about that sequence in reading is that in "Wind-Up Bird Chronicle", Okada describes his state of mind being the opposite of the main character in the end of Farewell To Arms. I had finished 'Farewell' two days after I started Murakami's. I was astonished by the coincidence.
>last read
1984
Macbeth
>currently reading
Everything from Horace
Faust I again
>next reading
Faust II
>>8077114
Last Read
>Complete Short Stories of Franz Kafka
>The Stranger by Albert Camus
>The Prince by Machiavelli
>The Crying of Lot 49
Currently Reading
>The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With The Sea by Yukio Mishima
>V by Thomas Pynchon
>The Plague by Albert Camus
Reading Next
>The Temple of the Golden Pavilion by Yukio Mishima
>The Sound of Waves by Yukio Mishima
>Inherent Vice by Thomas Pynchon
>>8079251
How is oblomov? I am excited to read this. I bought the schwartz translation
LAST READ
Wolfe--The Fifth Head of Cerberus
CURRENTLY READING
Shakespeare--Hamlet
READING NEXT
Faulkner--Absalom, Absalom!
I like to read plays in between books, usually Shakespeare.
>>8083172
Nice idea. I do the same thing with nonfiction/philosophy
>>8081410
BIG BOOKS MAKE ME BIG MAN
Last
Demon - Hesse
Thank You Jeeves - Wodehouse
Current
The Well of Ascension - Sanderson
The City of Dreaming Books - Movers
Next
The Twig Trilogy - Stewart
something Nabokov
>>8077114
>Last read
Outer Dark - McCarthy
Stoner - Williams
The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With The Sea - Mishima
By Night In Chile - Bolaño
>Currently reading
Naked Lunch - Burroughs
>Next Reading
The Savage Detectives - Bolaño
2666 - Bolaño
Crime and Punishment - Dostoevsky
The Book Of Disquiet - Pessoa
LAST
FRAGMENTS BY HERACLITUS
SOLILOQUIES BY AUGUSTINUS
RN
A FEW TRACTATS BY PLOTINUS
WHAT IS ANCIENT PHILOSOPHY BY PIERRE HADOT (recommend to anyone starting with the greeks)
NEXT
AMERIKA BY KAFKA
THE SAVAGE MIND/DICLIPINE AND PUNISH/THE DECLINE OF THE WEST
>>8083025
What was your favorite short of Kafka's? The answer is A Country Doctor
>>8083450
>fragments by heraclitus
Congratulations on reading one of the worst, most inaccurate translations of Heraclitus
>>8083650
What's the best one
>Last Read
The Restraint of Beasts by Mills
Cockroach by Hage
Arthur Mervyn by Brown
>Currently Reading
The Vivisector by White
The Familiar 1-3 by Danielewski
Crying of Lot 49 by Pynchon
>Up Next
The Vegetarian by Kang
Mona Lisa Overdrive by Gibson
The Bone People by Hulme
>last
hamlet, tempest, and as you like it
>currently
a sort of life by graham greene
>next
virginia woolf, gertrude stein, or more shakespeare
>>8084738
What of Woolf do you have planned?
>>8084747
to the lighthouse is the one i have, also interested in mrs. dalloway, the waves, orlando, between the acts, and moments of being
from her, i've only really read the voyage out & some of a room of one's own
>>8084752
To the Lighthouse is pretty brilliant. Very one hypes Mrs. Dalloway, and to be fair it's ggood, but I prefer Lighthouse. If you find yourself into it I recommend Howard's End by E.M. Forster.
>>8084762
what makes you mention howard's end m8? i'm interested
>>8084769
Tbh I read it for class. But I found it to be a good balance between Bloomsbury-esque modernism and Victorian Era novel sentimentalities. To the Lighthouse and Howard's End fall close together for me for whatever reason, though. They're both terrific, even if the former is a bit more... impressionistic.
>>8077197
Check out Thus Spake Zarathustra
thanks m8 I'm imagining like something between like middemarch and sons and lovers, I'll look into it when I get back to woolf
>Last Read
Imperial - William T. Vollman
A Brief History of Seven Killings - Marlon James
My Struggle Book 3 - Karl Ove Knausgard
>Currently Reading
Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoevsky
>Next Reading
Complete Short Stories - Anton Chekhov
>>8077250
>Letters from a Seducer - Hilda Hilst
Did you read that in English? Paper or ebook?
>>8077254
My copy of Journey... did not have any chapter breaks.
>>8077114
>last read
Iliad
Odyssey
Hamilton's Mythology
>currently reading
Hesiod
>next reading
Aeschylus & the gang
Yep, starting with the memes.
>LAST READ
Chinua Achebe - Things Fall Apart
>CURRENTLY READING
Jane Austen - Northanger Abbey
>NEXT READING
help me choose between:
Lolita
Raymond Chandler - The Big Sleep
Peter Watts - Blindsight
>>8085368
what
why do you want to go away from your tolerant ways
your next book should be by a gay author
>>8085391
>what
>why do you want to go away from your tolerant ways
>your next book should be by a gay author
no thanks
>>8082943
what do you think of imagined communities so far?
>>8082943
what's TBOK?
>last read
Faulkner- absalom, absalom
joseph conrad - heart of darkness
gene wolfe - shadow and claw
>currently reading
Gaddis - A frolic of his own
>next
mcelroy - women and men
gene wolfe - sword and citadel
Dostoyevsky - Brothers Karamazov
>>8085366
What version of heosid do you have?
>>8077114
last read
>The Opposing Shore - Gracq
>Miserable Miracle - Michaux
currently reading
>History of the World - Roberts
>Autoportrait - Levé
next up
>Beelzebub's Tales to his Grandson (1950 ed.) - Gurdjieff
>Odyssey - Homer
>>8083650
I've read it in my native, Lithuanian, language, how the fuck do you know if it is worst?
>>8077197
I started C&P at the same time, am now about to start Part 4. Would seriously recommend. I'm going to read Underground next. Holy shit dude.
Am I pleb if I prefer him to Tolstoy by a lot?
Last
>As I Lay Dying- Faulkner
Current
>The Crying of Lot 49- Pynchon
>Crime and Punishment- Dostoevesky
Next
>Dubliners- Joyce
>Hamlet- Shakespeare
>The Death of Ivan Illych and Other Stores- Tolstoy
>The Man in the High Castle- Dick
>>8085368
Lolita if you want something heavy
Big Sleep if you want something lighter that's surprisingly complicated
>>8084868
how good is My Struggle?
>>8083025
your list looks a bit like mine
would you recommend the Plague?
>>8086740
What have you read by Tolstoy
Last Read:
>Steinbeck-The Red Pony
Currently Reading:
>Hemingway-The Sun Also Rises
Really enjoying TSAR rn, pretty absorbing
>Last read
I Claudius/Claudius the God
>Current
Crying of Lot 49
>Next
Musil's Posthumous Papers
Burke's French Rev stuff
>>8088050
Long fiction: only War and Peace
Medium length:
Hadji Murad, Kreutzer Sonata
Short stories:
Prisoner of the Caucasus, Sevastopol in May, Sevastopol in December, Father Sergius, Alyosha Gorshok, The story with Nikita who is saved from freezing to death, maybe some others that are slipping my mind
Essays:
Why men stupefy themselves (title might be a bit off, something similar), Confession (i don't really know what else this would count under), The Wisdom of Humankind
Also some letters to his family
>>8087425
Will that be your first Tolstoy? I would not recommend starting there
>>8077114
>Last:
Five Dialogues (reread)
An Introduction to the Philosophy of History (reread)
>Current:
Zarathustra
The Portrait of a Lady
La Carte et la Territoire
>Next:
Gravity's Rainbow
Metamorphoses
Oblomov
Paradise Lost
>last
Sozaboy, Ken Saro-Wiwa
>current
Moral letters to Lucilium, Seneca
>next
Noctes Atticae, Aulus Gellius
>>8088341
Well that's a pretty informed opinion, honestly. If you like Dostoyevsky over Tolstoy, that's understandable. Different strokes for different folks
>>8088431
I think you quoted the wrong comment of mine, but thanks I guess. I did like War and Peace, and some of the earlier artistic work, but I just can't stand his philosophy. It really makes me feel like an edgelord but I love the vibe of Dostoevsky so far. Any further recs on how to explore him post C&P? I know I have to do Underground.
>>8085634
The Delphi classics I believe it's called.
>>8085648
I think I like your tastes, anon. Tell me what you thought about the Gracq and Michaux you've read.
>>8088499
Yeah I quoted the wrong comment. I'd recommend Brothers Karamazov. It's longer and a bit more dense than C&P or Notes, but it's considered by most to be his Magnum Opus. IF you know you like Dostoyevksy, I would suggest this work. Maybe read Notes beforehand and then jump in. It's a bit more sentimental than his other works and there's no shame if youcry a little
>>8089275
Alright, thanks. I've definitely heard of that one before. But I think those are the only 3 works of his I've ever heard mentioned. Any of the other long works worth it?
LAST READ
>All Fires the Fire - Cortazar
>King Rat - Clavell
>Solaris - Lem
CURRENTLY READING
>Don Quixote - Cervantes
NEXT READING
>Dekameron - Boccaccio
>Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Dick
>>8088744
Miserable Miracle was good but not worth it IMO if you personally aren't relatively experienced with psychedelics. The books value is in how Michaux is skillful at describing the inner psychedelic experience in a poetic way so if thats something you are into its worth it.
The Opposing Shore was top-notch, one of the best books I've read in the last 12 months. Its a surrealist novel but the surrealism isn't overt, its created through the mysterious atmosphere, the descriptions and the foreboding which was really nice. The one I read was an English translation of the French original because I don't know French but I thought the translation was really good. Wikipedia says that "Gracq's literary works were noted for their dreamlike abstraction, elegant style and refined vocabulary" and I found that description was entirely true for the translation. It was like swimming at night through a warm scented pool lit by violet-colored underwater lights.
>>8087425
>how good is My Struggle?
It's very good. It's one of the few pieces of contemporary fiction you'll like and even find refreshing if you mainly read the classics.
pls bully
Last Read-
>Under The Volcano - Malcom Lowry
>Against Nature - Joris-Karl Huysmans
>Course In General Linguistics - Saussure
Currently Reading-
>The Second Sex - Simone De Beauvoir
Reading Next-
>Never Let Me Go - Kazuo Ishiguro
>On The Reproduction Of Capitalism - Louis Althusser
>The Trial - Franz Kafka
>>8077114
>>8083025
would chill with
>>8085366
nice memes :^)
>>8090538
Thank you, sound just like what I thought. Can't wait to start on Gracq. Who was yours translated by?
>>8090545
You mean refreshing because its like the classics or refreshing because it's different?
>>8090538
When does the opposing shore get good?
I read the first chapter or so and I was bored to tears. It reminded me of Buzzati at his worst and now in wondering if I should even bother
>>8085350
Pape
In English. Not much of hers has been translated, and I've read that her other books in English translation are far less lewd. That's okay, I still want to read them. Are you from Brazil?
>>8088341
What would u rec starting with instead
>>8090593
I read this one by Richard Howard
http://www.amazon.com/Opposing-Shore-Julien-Gracq/dp/023105789X
>>8090604
I dunno man I enjoyed all of it, the issue may be the way you are approaching it. The book isn't exactly supposed to be about the plot or spooky stuff happening, its more about the style of writing and the atmosphere. I remember really enjoying it almost immediately. There is a reason it was awarded the Goncourt prize, which is given for "the best and most imaginative prose work of the year".
I don't know if you were expecting a more sci-fi/fantasy type thing or something that was bizarre and fantastical but its not either of those. People sometimes also claim that 2666 and Don Quixote are both really boring and I loved both of those. Different people have different tastes.
>>8090636
I'm not that poster but I would honestly recommend starting with War and Peace. Despite its daunting reputation its really easy to read and you can breeze through it in a way that you can't with Dostoevsky. Despite having around 2.5 as many pages as Crime and Punishment you can read it in the time it would take you to read C&P 1.5 times as long as you aren't a sub-vocalizer.
LAST READ
>Ulysses
>This Side of Paradise
>Dune
CURRENTLY READING
>Collected Works of HG Wells
NEXT READING
>UFOs and the National Security State 1: Chronology of a Coverup 1941-73
>>8090819
If only you knew how deep it really goes...
>>8090636
I would recommend starting with his earlier works. Cossacks is a good suggestion. So would be some short stories like his Sevastopol Sketches.
Then War and Peace. Honestly, starting with War and Peace is not the worst idea, either. Though I think it helps to know something of his mindset beforehand, it is not absolutely necessary. It is a bad idea to start with post-conversion Tolstoy, though.
>LAST READ
Second Skin - Hawkes
The Beetle Leg - Hawkes
Moon Palace - Auster
>CURRENTLY READING
Hopscotch - Cortazar
>NEXT READING
???
LAST READ
>A Fan's Notes - Exley
>America: A Prophecy - Blake
>Peter Camenzind - Hesse
CURRENTLY READING
>New Poems - Rilke
>Blood Meridian - McCarthy
>Mysteries - Hamsun
>the lyrics of Bob Dylan
NEXT READING
>Milton: a Poem - Blake
>Collected Poems - Poe
>The Book of Disquiet - Pessoa
>>8092520
How was The Beetle Leg? Found it a while ago and something always pulls me back to looking at it.
>>8088175
Where does one start with Musil? Hop right into Man Without Qualities?
>>8083287
We have a similar list. How is Mishima? Have you read Pessoa's poetry? I recommend you pick up Julio Cortazar if you haven't, specifically Around the Day in Eighty Worlds.
last read:
>Blue Devils of Nada - Albert Murray
>Dubliners - James Joyce (reread)
currently reading
>Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man - James Joyce
>Simulation and Simulacra - Jean Baudrillard
next read
>The Ancients and the Post-Moderns - Frederic Jameson
>some fiction thing Idk yet
I like to read a non-fiction and a fiction and move on to another group after I finish both.
