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How did this shitty book make a whole nation vote for Hitler?
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How did this shitty book make a whole nation vote for Hitler?
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>>8070511
A century of socialist theory and glorification of the state.
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>>8070511
It wasn't the book.
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It was his top tier oration that got him into power. Once he'd done that he made everyone buy his shitty book.

>Obligatory lazy Crippled America joke.
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>>8070511
The shitty poverty-stricken, desolated remains of post war Germany faced with an economic depression would make anyone miserable enough to gobble up self serving "manifest destiny" type garbage like this, regardless how batshit insane it is.

The poor and disenfranchised sure do love them some scapegoat. Seriously, nationalism is a fucking disease.
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>>8071457
This. It was his speeches that made him, not his literary work, he can make a nation want to get some shit done.
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>>8070511
Watch this.

Yes, all seven hours. You'll feel it. You'll know why.
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>>8070511
Because he was right, just look at Germany today and tell me it wouldn't be better if Hitler was there
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>>8072634
>Top dog in the EU
Go back to your containment board.
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>>8072634
You're a fucking idiot. Adolf Hitler adored the Muslims. He'd be overjoyed with the sandnigger invasion of Europe.
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>>8072352
pretty much this. the war guilt clause of the treaty of versailles bled germany dry, and things were bad to begin with. desperate people will go along with any asshole who promises hope and change.
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>>8072352
>nationalism
>bad
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Daily reminder: nationalism =/= fascism

There are elements shared by both, but you don't need to be a stromfag to promote nationalist policies.
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>>8072663
>Thinking your nation of people is better than all others, often to the point where you have no problem killing any/all outsiders/forcing your policies/views on them isn't a bad thing.


K.
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>>8072680
when did i advocate for killing outsiders
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>>8072643
>Hitler loved the death cult

Makes sense honestly
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>>8072663
Not 'bad', just a rather spooky product of the modern world. Mass simulacrum of organic communal feeling lost due to industrialization. Contemporary nationalists are increasingly globalised, see /pol/'s fetishisation of 'the white race', much broader than Hitler's volk, or Salafi pan-Islamic ambitions.
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>>8072680

Have u seen the IQ/crime stats for different races bro? It's a dog eat dog world out there.
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>>8072708
>this meme again
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>>8072708
>Have u seen the IQ/crime stats for different races bro?

>IQ

The "Intelligence Quotient" is fucking pseudoscience and only measures a persons affinity with patterns and what they call base "mechanical problem solving" it has absolutely fuck all to do with innate intelligence.

A fucker who has spent his entire life in a tribal society community in Papua New Guinea whose extent of interaction with technology is a Nokia cellphone made in 2001 is more than capable of learning to fly a fucking helicopter if he's trained well enough.

You're the kind of fucking idiot that would take something like a lie detector test or fucking phrenology as fact.

Kill yourself.
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>>8072754
>>8072767
There's an objective way to judge intelligence, and you've both failed.
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>>8072772
You're fucking retarded if you think there is a correlation between ethnicity and intelligence. That's xenophobic 1840s tier pseudoscience.

Kill. Yourself.
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>>8072783
I don't think that at all. Try again.
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>>8072352
>nationalism is a fucking disease.
i bet you support multiculturism too huh faggot
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>>8072783
If you don't believe that you're completely delusional
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>>8072783
black middle class teenagers on average still score less on the SAT than white middle class teenagers

>b-but slavery!!
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>>8072819
Nationalism and official culture/language are relatively recent artificial constructs associated with the rise of the modern state and education system. 'Multiculturalist' policies are often just subtler attempts to define and control people.
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>>8072822
>>8072831
>niggers make up 10% of the population yet commit 50% of violent crime i just blindly accept anything i'm told as the truth xDDDDD
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>>8072819
Yeah, the two things that began and maintained two world wars that killed millions of men women and children Nationalism and Expansionism are DEFINITELY a good thing.

Fuck on off back to /pol/ mr.stormfront.
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>>8072856
>pride in your country= fucked up moral compass
when will this meme die
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>>8072878
>WE'RE #!1 WE'RE #! WE'RE #1 !!!!

No one likes you.
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>>8072878
>We killed millions of people for our own selfish delusions, yeah, woo!

That's the definition of fucked up, you fuck-up.
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>>8072886
Leftists hate excellence and power, they hate the Strong, they love weakness, disease and perversion. I love Life, which is in essence Struggle, brutal, Darwinian struggle. thus I choose fascism. I choose Action. To choose otherwise is to choose slow death and inertia.
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>>8072915
>Wannabe Noe-Fascist detected

Nazi's lost, you're obsession with a dead political party is unhealthy.

Grow up.
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>>8072915
>Leftists hate excellence and power, they hate the Strong, they love weakness, disease and perversion. I love Life, which is in essence Struggle, brutal, Darwinian struggle. thus I choose fascism. I choose Action. To choose otherwise is to choose slow death and inertia.

>mfw

'45 best year of my life
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>>8072922
*your

inb4 faggot grammar nazi
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>>8072892
>just bend over and take it, it's not that bad man, i swear!
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>>8072925
Even by the end of the war, wasn't the Nazi party like, only 35% of the German population?
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>>8072933
In the end, Fascism really did bend over and they really did take it.
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>>8072933
See
>>8072643

We're not talking about sandniggers, we're talking about nazi's

Which is the same kind of batshit, just for different reasons.
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Historian here reminding you that Hitler lost his election against Hindenburg and the Nazi party never got a majority of German votes ("majority" as in over 50%). At their peak in 1932 the Nazi party only controlled approximately 37% of seats in the Reichstag and had actually been in decline since then until the passing of the Enabling Act in 1933 which granted plenary powers to Hitler.
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>>8072944
Really, really, really, really, really really, really, really, really. really, really, really, really. really, really, really, really really, really, really, really hard.
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>>8072831

They probably care less about trying to succeed in the education system in general and have not trained their deductive/inductive reasoning skills as well as the typical white middle class teen. SAT is rote knowledge; to me, all it says about a person who doesn't do well on the test is that their interest doesn't lie in book smarts.
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>>8072945
It's insane out there!Muslims and non-whites are running amok, raping white women, slaughtering our people and looting white property. We need a brutal authoritarian government to restore order. To say otherwise is to accept cuckoldry.
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>>8072950
>until the passing of the Enabling Act in 1933 which granted plenary powers to Hitler.

*and the passing of the Reichstag Fire Decree which essentially outlawed affiliation with the largest rival political parties.
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>>8072959

See Humanity by Jonathan Glover
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>>8072959
Using the words cuck/cuckold should be a bannable offense on every board.
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>>8070511
It didn't. Hitler got popular the same way trump did. By pandering to the ignorant and the angry right as it hit critical mass in his country. For them it was post-ww1 germany, for us it was post-internet america.
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>>8072974
See >>8072950
>>8072965

Hitler didn't come into power through popularity.
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>>8072967
I don't dig through trash.
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>>8072986

Grace me with your reasoning
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>>8072986
>I whine about how leftists don't value strength, but I don't dare read anything that challenges my worldview
Typical crypto-nu-male
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>>8072967
Fuck the moral history of the 20th century whatever that means . I care about my people and my children here on the 21st century and I know muslims dindus and globalists don't. This is Genocide. They want Genocide.
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>>8072959
Ill agree to the brutal authoritarian government as long as its violently leftist and sterilizes the mentally infirm, and eugenically impure like yourself.
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>>8072819
>>8072611
>>8072634
>>8072708
>>8072819
>>8072822
>>8072831
>>8072915
>>8072933
>>8072959
>>8072986

The fact that the US has become a safe haven for national socialist hate mongering and the increase of it over the years is really fucking depressing.

The only people on this planet that deserve death are extremists left/right religious or not.
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>>8072990
>>8072991
>challenges worldview
>implying it provides a challenge

Just because someone wrote something that you agree with, does not mean that it is correct.
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>>8073029
>implying it provides a challenge
You haven't read it, how would you know? It's almost like you live your life controlled solely by assumptions.
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>>8073016

Okay, well. If you took the time to read more up on the book you would see that along with the 350-400 pages of moral history (it's very interesting), Glover proposes that the world needs a powerful governing figure that can make decisions at a whim for everybody: The Leviathan Method. I don't know if "brutal authoritarian government" is synonymous to Glover's proposal, but if you're interested in that idea you may want to check out Humanity. It may also teach you to assume less about what you do not know.
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>>8073029

FYI those two posts were not the same person. Although what you said doesn't really fit into that argument, I do agree with you.
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>>8073037
It's almost like you live your life controlled solely by assuming that you are right.
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>>8073067
I don't though. You wouldn't know that anyway since I haven't posted any of my beliefs in this thread.
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>>8073071
Every word that flows form your mouth whether true or false is a belief.
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>>8073080

my man
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>>8073080
wh
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>>8072783
>different subdivisions of humans that evolved in radically different environments are phenotypically different from each other as a result of genetics in every conceivable way including bone density, life span, susceptibility to certain hereditary diseases such as sickle cell etc but NOT intelligence

From the co-discoverer of the structure of DNA James Watson: "[I am] inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa [because] all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours—whereas all the testing says not really."

But I guess you think he's fucking retarded too and should kill himself, right?

You faggots need to realize that reality isn't a god damn feminist novel. All great fiction is drawn from the real world and I fucking hate it when It seems like I'm discussing /lit/ with Canadian kindergarteners.
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>>8073254
>implying an authority on genetics is an authority on human intelligence, much less government policy

The retarded one here is you. Are you even capable of slurping up something that's not smallminded nationalist ideology, you degenerate untermensch?
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>>8073280
>implying an authority on genetics is an authority on human intelligence

What authority is higher, then? Your gender studies professor? The NAACP?

>Everyone who isn't a fucking marxist is a nazi

OK
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>>8073254
>"People born in Africa are incapable of learning or attaining knowledge"

Yeah, nah you're full of shit.

Anyone can be "intelligent" regardless of which part of the globe they call home or their ethnicity, it's all about having the drive and the available resources.

Fucking idiot.
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>>8073293
A good authority on human intelligence would be someone with a scholarly background in the field of human intelligence.

You fucking retard.
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>>8071457
So basically he killed jews for book sales?
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>>8073306
>having a "drive" will make you intelligent
brainlets actually believe this
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>>8073306
>People born in Africa are incapable of learning or attaining knowledge

Please quote where I said or implied this. Oh wait you can't because you're flipping up a strawman. Of course Africans are capable of attaining knowledge, they just do it worse than pretty much everyone else on the planet. History and science has shown this to be true consistently but you accept your comforting lies instead.

>>8073313
What do you think the human genome is, you fucking retard? What do you think neurology is?
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Not even the high ranked Nazis read it.
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>>8070511
He never got more than like 40% of the vote, and his final election he received closer to 30%. He formed a ruling coalition with the conservatives until the Reichstag thing
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>>8072944
>Enfields instead of yugo mausers or nuggets
Is this correct?
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Leftists shitting on nationalism isn't ideologically coherent. Only if you're some kind of globalised liberal can you say "nationalism is a disease."

The alternative is we all live in vast, bureaucratic empires or fiefs ruled by foreign kings. Nationalism is literally about giving a people control over their own destiny.

>we're #1
You love your family the most, doesn't mean you think that your family is OBJECTIVELY the best family in the world, and that all other families are inferior. But it's the family you grew up in, the one you shared experiences with, the one that provided for you. And you don't think your friends are necessarily the greatest people ever, they're just the ones you fit in well with the most.

Some of you fags would eradicate all unique cultures, all diversity, all human variation because of muh nazis. And where will it leave you?
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>>8074577
but its ultimately an empty idea that can conflict with your own interests
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>>8074584
>not elevating things that are more important in this world above your own wants and needs
s m h
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>>8073021
I agree but the only problem with that is that it's an extremist opinion to want to kill extremists.
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>>8074584
>Being this shallow
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>he fell for the egalitarian meme
>he fell for the nationalism meme
who /exit/ here
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>>8072767
>A fucker who has spent his entire life in a tribal society community in Papua New Guinea whose extent of interaction with technology is a Nokia cellphone made in 2001 is more than capable of learning to fly a fucking helicopter if he's trained well enough.
Not really. Flying a helicopter at the very least requires literacy and numeracy, which are two things 'fuckers from tribal societies' completely lack.

Have you ever actually interacted with a real person from the third world? They have difficulty handling even the most basic tasks.
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>>8074577
Culture and 'nation' are arbitrary and always shifting constructs, not really as organic or even as old as you think they are. The Internet provides ample evidence for that, you probably have far more cultural similarities with the Mexicans/Turks/Slavs/Transgenders on this board than with most of your fellow white countrymen.
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>>8074951
What a load of shit. I don't get my culture and values from dank memes, I get them from my family and national history
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>>8074965
>culture and values
It's all memes, all the way down. You got meme'd by your parents and the state ideology apparatus, bro
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>>8074847
wooo thats a rare land
thanks mate
bless gnon
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It's like /pol/ is a chastity cage for 4chan's constantly erect haterage penis and at some point the SJW's teased the caged cock so hard that it literally ripped the cage off itself and has now been raping boards left and right without restraint. Go back 2 /pol/
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>>8075020
Yeah, but they're good memes. They're the original memes, the DNA of the soul. They're the memes that give color and contrast a beauty to the world. The alternative is being morphed into a soulless grey blob with an average iq of 90 being ruled over by faceless megalomaniacs until the end of memeless time. Fuck that shit. I want to live in America, not the global union of Brazil
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>>8075085
Who you gonna call?
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>>8075085
Well done, citizen, the Ministry of Truth endorses this post!

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>>8075102
Fuck off max you're the worst meme of them all
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>>8075108
How am I being an enemy to asia/europe/africa/russia/whatever for wanting them to maintain their nationhood?
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>>8072643

Wrong. He admired islam but loathed the sandniggers.
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>>8075126
your picture is retarded. Multicultural means several cultures at once, not "amorphous grey blob of culture". So the /pol/ tard only needs to walk in the street to see different cultures.
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>>8075108
Funnily enough, I'd say your culturally acceptable (exalted?) vilification of nationhood is exactly what the current 'powers that be' want you to think is some kind of rebellious, independent thought. In reality, it is international capitalists who promote the opening of borders, dissolution of national identities and self-government, free trade agreements, protectionism etc. etc.

Never forget who your real enemies are, the nationalists!
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>>8075143
Many cultures at once destroys the mother culture, so if you want to experience the birthplace of that culture you have nowhere to go. See: London
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>/lit/ is the new /pol/

but better
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>>8075143
...and, the further a group strays from their original cultural birthplace, the less connected they feel to that culture, preferring instead to pick up the culture of the land they inhabit, which in the case of multiculturalism would indeed be an amorphous gray blob
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>>8075156
Why is any specific culture worth preserving? Why do we kill real physical people for the sake of intangible culture?
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>>8075154
What if both international capitalists and spooked flag-humping nationalists are shit? Nationalism and far-right ideas do get considerable support and funding from certain sections of the elites in America and Europe. Not to mention the Russian and Iranian governments, though they arguably do so because they want to fuck shit up rather than out of any genuine convictions.
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>>8075143
I think /pol/ is anti-intellectual garbage and I know that is completely wrong. Different cultures at once just means accusations of cultural appropriation nowadays.
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>>8075154
Sounds like a bunch of good things you mentioned, considering the utter chaos and destruction nationalism has wrought over the past 150 years (see Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, the Italian wars for unification, WW1, WW2, the war in Kosovo, the partition of Korea, the Great Leap Forward, the current American military apparatus, Chinese muscle-flexing in the Pacific that could lead to WW3, etc, etc, etc.)

>muh culture
just fuck off already
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>>8075189
It's not intangible, you're just disconnected from it. We fight to maintain culture because it's the single greatest aspect of what it means to be human other than maybe science
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>>8075168
According to your post better is not funnier.
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>>8075195
>I think /pol/ is anti-intellectual garbage and I know that is completely wrong.

You wouldn't need to reassure us of your confidence if you weren't going through some kind of major cognitive dissonance. There are many multicultural societies in south America that you can splurge in if you really feel that way though.
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>>8075192
Autonomy on a national level is vastly preferable to that of a corporate or international one, generally people in their own nations have better knowledge and nuance when it comes to making decisions about how to run their societies - just look at the failure of almost all humanitarian interventions and the colossal faux pas' of colonialism. National interests also tend to be a bit more socially attuned than those of multinational corporations and international military alliances. Besides I wouldn't delineate nationalism, or even ethno-nationalism, as a whole pattern of human organisation through the lens of far-right groups. They're a reaction of people who are acting out on a basic human need being stolen from them.

>>8075197
People fight over things with meaning. Do I consider nationalism to be some kind of holy, utmost good, and that every action taken for the ethnic body politic or for the cause of national identity or sectarianism is good? No. But that's because I have a different view of the whole concept. I think it's necessary, or unavoidable, and I think our disregard for it is just going to be part of the catalyst for a complete restructure of the power dynamics of the world. This just won't last.
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>>8075228
The globalised nature of power and global capital has rendered nation-states useless. imo best thing would be a World Confederation made up of overlapping, directly democratic entities.
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>>8075228
What I'm getting from you is

>Hey, nationalism may have deliberately led to the deaths of 500,000,000 people, but CLEARLY it's better than any alternative!

along with

>Autonomous freedom is a virtue in and of itself, who CARES how it's used? The important part is that you USE it, not that you use it wisely!
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>>8070511
1) No one read it. A dank nazi meme was to ask if anyone had actually read it. The poor sap who had, had to pick up the restaurant bill.

2) The nazis never got popular support. At most they got 42 of the popular vote.
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>>8075197
>If people love something enough to fight for it then it should be destroyed

lol

Do you think that the nazis would have been stopped if the allied powers weren't staunchly nationalistic?
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Daily reminder that no nation existed before the 19th century. Daily reminder that History will wipe them off like a trace of cum next time it takes a shower and replace them with something even fouler.
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>>8075260
>Do you think that the nazis would have been stopped if the allied powers weren't staunchly nationalistic?
I prefer american nationalism with all it flaws and warts over nazi nationalism.

As a matter of fact, when american nationalism is at it's best, it can be called patriotism.
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>The utopian retards think nationalism and patriotism are the same thing
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>>8075266
That was sort of my point.
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>>8073315
That's one hell of a marketing scheme
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>>8075273
Bad point. Because if you remove the war from the equation, nazi nationalism still a shit.
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>>8075253
Not at all. I think that it will result in more desirable circumstances than whatever it is you would rather try to institute, which has been vague, if not described at all, so far.

>>8075262
Where does this meme come from? The nations we have today almost all have clear analogous ethnic/cultural counterparts all throughout history. Do you think Germany didn't exist before 1990, just because it's current political entity formed at that point? Languages are a good way to discern individual 'nations', like the Poles who existed sometimes as their own state, other times in German or Russian territory. Or Jews, who have existed as a unique 'nation' despite prolonged periods of nomadic existence.
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>>8075228
Nationalist overestimate how much control a single state could exert over any of these things. The fact of the matter is that globalism is the logical endpoint of market economies, and you can't put the neoliberalism genie back in the bottle. The best anyone nation could hope to do is transform itself into some kind of luddite colony or North Korea tier isolated siege mentality state, which is obviously incompatible with the "values" and culture and whatever that most westerners hold.
Things like culture and national identity mean a lot to people on a very deep level, but no amount of politicking will change the fact that they're obsolete
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>>8075281
The Germans seemed to be having a good time right up until the war
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>>8072352
You're forgetting about the failed communist revolution during that period, which was lead by jews. They were also profiteering of the massive prostitution market that had ermerged, this inlcuded child slavery (post-modern faggots bitch constantly that this era was destroyed by Hitler).

You should ask yourself why you don't know about the failed communist revolution in Germany after WW1.
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>>8075287
here's a hint lad
nation =/= state
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>>8072680
Why do you believe this caricature?
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>>8075260
Do you think the rise of fascism could've happened without WW1? Could WW1 have happened without the German unification? Could the German unification have happened without nationalist ideology?

Where the fuck was nationalism when the Duchy of Saxony was dominated by Prussia? Does the Duchy of Saxony not matter as a cultural institution in your vaunted political worldview? What about Brittany? What about Wales? What about all these little principalities utterly annihilated culturally and institutionally by larger states? Is the "nation state" somehow more just and right and appropriate an apparatus than duchy?

Or is it just a convenient means of centralizing power and destroying local autonomy?
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>>8075302
How is that a hint when that's the point of my post? The entire conception of nationalism is providing nations with their own state, i.e. self-governance.
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>>8075310
Atrocities occur regardless of the level of national sovereignty in the world. The worst and largest we're committed under the soviets who tried to deprive eastern Europe of its individual autonomy.
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>>8075298
>Nationalism is bad
>No! It was all the commie jews
Do you even listen to yourself
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>>8072767
Psychometrics is a valid field and twin studies confirm the genetic heritability of IQ. The only psudo-science is denying IQ, which is done by social study proffersors etc.

Lets look at one weak pedictor of IQ, brain size which varies across races.
https://neuroscience.stanford.edu/news/ask-neuroscientist-does-bigger-brain-make-you-smarter
>The emergence of magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) has made it possible to compare brain sizes of living humans, and in the ongoing hunt for a physical metric of intelligence, several researchers eagerly sought to correlate MRI measures of brain volume with IQ. Ten years ago, a meta-analysis that examined the results from 26 imaging studies concluded that the correlation between IQ and brain volume is consistently in the 0.3-0.4 range. More recently, a genome-wide association study which included 20,000 human subjects was widely reported by the media to have discovered an “IQ gene.” According to their results, certain variations in the HMGA2 gene, which codes for a protein that helps regulate DNA transcription and cell growth, are correlated with increased intracranial volume as well as enhanced IQ.

If you google "IQ brain size correlates" you also get:
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-brain-size-doesnt-correlate-with-intelligence-180947627/
But, this deals with various species and brain-size and proximity to humans.
>What the headlines didn’t crow about was the researchers’ finding that only two of the ten investigated mammals had bigger brains in their urban variants. And the cranial capacity of two shrew species (short-tailed and masked) and two bats (little brown and big brown) grew bigger over the decades in rural, but not urban, settings.

You don't know what you are talking about.
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Hoe did this shitty bookmake a whole nation vote for Donald Trump
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>>8075363
;)
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>>8075344
Refute him or fuck off
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>>8075363

I don't see much difference between Trump and Hitler desu.
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>>8075352
And how does "mechanical problem solving ability" correlate to intelligence?

You clearly don't understand what "intelligence" is, or why IQ is an insufficient metric to measure it. Again, like a pseudoscientist or a phrenologist, you're hung up on measurements and physical traits.
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>>8075143
That's the strict definition, but that is not what is happening. We can talk about how all cultures are being erased and replaced with the global mono-culture, but that's not what people talk about when they say multi-culturalism.

When people sau "multi-culturalism" they mean multi-racialism. Belgium was mono-cultured, it did after all have people speaking two different native languages. Most European countries were multi-cultured in the strict sense of the word, but were mono-racial. Pro-multi-cuturalism is primaraly and anti-white stance, meant to disposses whites of thei native land and reduce their power. Every leftist is explicit about this, except when talking to right-wingers.
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>>8075385
Left-Communism is patrician AF. Honestly, it would be cool if the judeobolshevists had gotten away with it
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>>8075393

Phrenology was a little school of science, scrapped because of muh feels.
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>>8075387
Hi, gawker.
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>>8075393
>mechanical problem solving ability
No-one has ever spoken of this. The primary IQ test used is Raven Matrices, which is one geometric reasoning.

>r why IQ is an insufficient metric to measure it
It is not a complete metric, but a very effective and strong proxxy for intelligence. We also never measure temperature directly but it's effect on the measuring apparatus, are thermometers a psudo-science aswell?
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>>8075385
Why the fuck do I need to seriously consider the proposition that post WW1 Germany was a shithole because of le Jews and not, say, a world war followed by an overly punitive treaty. Keep in mind that his only argument is literally that Jewish Communists existed after WW1 and he has a context less wikipedia graphic to prove they were a defining force in the area. Don't make excuses for literal /pol/ circlejerk material
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>>8075340
The atrocities are not the issue (although I would argue a set of people without differences are less likely to commit atrocities against eachother than a people with many differences, it's just a matter of acculturation).

The issue is that the nationstate is a completely arbitrary threshold of political sovereignty; it is no more just or appropriate than the city state, or the duchy, or the kingdom, although it may be more effective at times.

If we were posting from the independent city of the Michiganham, people like you would be saying "Clearly the king deprives people of their individual autonomy! How could anyone possibly defend such a reprehensible institution as monarchy?"

If we were posting from the Kingdom of the West-Central Great Lakes Region, people like you would be saying "Clearly the nationstate deprives people of their individual autonomy! How could anyone possibly defend such a reprehensible institution?"

And if or when there comes a one-world government, people just like you will be saying, "Clearly the inter-system hyperstate deprives planets of their individual autonomy! How could anyone possibly defend such a reprehensible institution?"
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>>8075428
>overly punitive
shoo shoo
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>>8075452
refute him or fuck off
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>>8075428
>Why the fuck do I need to seriously consider the proposition that post WW1 Germany was a shithole because of le Jews and not, say, a world war followed by an overly punitive treaty.
You are setting up a false choice, both could be at play. Groups are opportunistic, and the jews were and are.

>Keep in mind that his only argument is literally that Jewish Communists existed after WW1
No, my argument is their overrepresentation and that the leadership was virtually entirely jewish. If you want to see their ethncentric behaviour in modern times, install the coincidence detector on chrome and start reading articles.
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>>8075289
I think you might be right in saying the logical endpoint of market economies is globalism, though I think you also might be massively overestimating how uniform a 'globalised' world would look.

I only wanted to comment on what you said about culture and national identity being osolete. I would say that neoliberalism is cultural, it comes from specific historical conditions and also is not uniform wherever it is. Basic point: splitting culture and political economy into opposing categories completely ignores that fact that if humans imagined something, even neoliberalism, then it is cultural itself. High ramble over.
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>>8073337
look, even if you were to show that 80% of africans were less intelligent than 80% of white people, how could this be implimented in policy? personally, no matter how many people I meet who conform to a stereotype or statistic, I still cant morally justify (inb4 spooks) treating someone differently based on that.

secondly. good luck trying to find any 100% unbiased peer-reviewed research paper in the last 10 years on the subject of race and IQ.

scientists only study relationships if they believe there is a relationship already. this is fine when your pre-evident hypothesis is about quarks or rocks but more dangerous when its about races which have a pretty hard time of it already
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>>8075488
This. Apart from the echoes in a celtic druid cave network, who speaks of this issue and what are its effects IRL?
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>>8075488

>Cherry-picking when statistics do and don't apply

Please don't ever think of yourself, or profess yourself to be, morally/scientifically consistent.
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>>8075488
>look, even if you were to show that 80% of africans were less intelligent than 80% of white people, how could this be implimented in policy? personally, no matter how many people I meet who conform to a stereotype or statistic, I still cant morally justify (inb4 spooks) treating someone differently based on that.
That's easy, white entho-state. No permanent residency for non-whites. The further justification for this is the measure of social cohesion and social capital, multi-racialism destroys this. This is essentially the result of Putnams research and all other researchers on the field, but they conclude something else since they are leftist. They just say that we should try harder and import more blacks and middle-eastern muslims (not those two specified, but this is the focus generally).
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>>8075488
This is the point where you're supposed to think black people are subhuman and should all be killed or deported.

It may sound silly now, but remember, if even a few percent of the population in a location actually believe that, it can have major policy decisions.
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>>8075511
t. /pol/
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>Hitler lived in Vienna and was a complete shut-in
>Didn't even want a proper job
>Was poor
>But bought handsome clothes to fit in with the artistic community
>Had grest artistic ambition
>Read everything he came over
>Lot of hatred sprewing and he read and listened to those sort of people
>Didn't get into art school.
>Wanted to be one of them but was looking from the outside.
>Was depressed
>Had temper tantrums. Easily lost his temper.

Does he remind you of someone?

It's scary when I think about it.
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>>8075520
Yes, but it's still great idea. For whites, other races can have their own ethno-states. The Japanese have an ethno-state, which is doing fairly well.
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>>8074602

>he believes there are things more important than the self and its interests
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>>8075552
You sincerely believe this?

Can Henry Church be in your all-white ethnostate?
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>>8075547
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epik trole
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>>8075573
Why do white nations need non-whites? Was Scandinavia on the bring of collapse until non-whites arrived. The only thing that have to show for the muslim immigration is increase in the number of rapes about 100 fold (the norm for nearly two decades is 1-2 rape convictions of ethnic whites and 100 to several hundred non-whites, depending on the nation) and growing wellfare class. If they were sent back, all that would disappear.

Why are you so against a white ethnostate, but not black ethnostates (for example). I assume every leftist here is for the deportation of all whites in Africa (This has been my general experience).

No, fuck Henry Church and fuck his descendents.
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>>8070511
The book came after, don't think many people read it to begin with
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This thread is fucking gay.
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>>8075205
Yes, and you're absolutely correct
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>>8072944
they lost with total war in a last blaze of glory, just how they wanted
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>>8075057
4chan (and every other single anonymous website, including the Japanese ones) have always been extremely right-wing

lurk the fuck more or fuck off back to /r/socialism
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>>8075674
So Henry Church can't be part of your white ethnostate? What about your average Spaniard? What about your average Italian? What about your average Russian?
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if you are a white men and not right-wing you should be fucking put against a wall and shot

niggers & jews fuck off
this is a white men's board
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>>8075912
t. veteran Internet user (4chan poster since 2011)
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>>8073021
Radical leftists think the same thing about you as someone who endorses capitalism - the evil thing.
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>>8075924
actually a poster since 2006 but ok

again, get the fuck out
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>>8075938
I'll bet. Fill in the blank. Only true 4chin users know this ancient meme.

_______ house

How about this one?

______ negro

How about this one?

_____ is back

and don't even get me started on ____-chan, or _____-kun

I bet you're a fucking frogposter.
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>>8075957
millhouse? happy negro? snacks is back? what do i win?
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>>8076013
Close, but not entirely correct. Begone, poseur.
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>>8076040
all of those were correct you fucking autist
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>>8072352
disgusting multiculturalist jude detected

Again and again people will come and go, they will be moved anew, be pleased and equally inspired because the idea of the movement is a living expression of our people, and therefore, a symbol of eternity.
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>>8075280
Germans were required to buy it when they got a marriage license.
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>>8076060
Me, an autist? I'm not the one who's been posting on 4chan for ten years ;)
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>>8074951
I like how you assume he's white. Why can't he be an asian national socialist or african national socialist? What's wrong with everyone having pride in their own people? Multiculturalists want everyone to mix and turn into a pile of shit. National socialists actually want to preserve everyone's culture. They don't want everyone to turn into some brown mutant race where the culture is american pop music jammed down everyone's throat.
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>>8076077
alright so i'm an autist for posting on a website for over 10 years but you, a faggot who posted some faggy oldfag test isnt?
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>>8076088
Let's call a spade a spade. Why are nationalists so insistent on denying reality in favor of some idyllic past that never existed? Do you seriously believe that you have more in common with Cletus the backwoods sheriff and Fortune 500 CEO Harold Kent IV than you have with Jorge the data entry specialist at General Motors?

You are separated from other people far more by your class than by your race. You will never, ever relate to Cletus and Harold as you would with Jorge, regardless of your skin color.
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>>8076113
Depends on who you're asking. Maybe for a white American that may be a true. For a Spaniard o a German or Chinese? Of course he'll relate much more to the people, of his own race, in his own country. He has a common language with them, a common way of life, a common history, etc.
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>>8076088
I'm a mixed race Latin American myself so I guess it's in my self-interest to promote miscegenation and the defilement of all pure races. Ethnonationalism and supremacism are stupid whether you are a Hutu from Rwanda a Salfist in Syria or a white Anglo-american. Cultural homogenization is a product of capitalism and a heavily centralized anti democratic mass media
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>>8072767
Why didn't you post the picture of all different animals being given a test of climbing a tree? It will be fucking hilarious
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>>8076145
Not at all. You can be a nationalist for whatever nation you happen to live in now. Just because you had some filthy subhuman ancestors doesn't mean you have to ruin everything for everyone.
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>>8076145
Is it stupid because you can never know the joy of being a descendant of a long line of people who didn't race mix?
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>>8076184
Just because you don't wanna race mix you don't have to ruin it for us who do.
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>>8076113
Have you not been to Chinatown, Little Saigon or any 100% Hispanics cities? I can't say that there are 100% black cities because you'll always find 10 or 20% Mexicans in them. People prefer to stick to their own culture, their own language and their own way of thinking. You sound like you've always lived in New York where everything mixes.
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>>8075573
Henry Church shouldn't be allowed anywhere regardless of race
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He won because no one read it

Also I don't think the Nazis ever won 40% of the vote. Conservatives just felt that because they were the strongest party, it'd be wise to publicly team-up while privately trying to use Hitler for their own advantages. Whether Hitler realized it or not, he had an advantage of being consistently underestimated by his opponents, believing they were using Hitler when it was the other way around the whole time.

But ultimately because the conservative, capitalist, and christian factions of Germany felt that communism was such a violent threat, they collaborated with the madman

>inb4 but muh Catholic-Democrats half-assed their opposition to Hitler more than anyone else!
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>>8076189
>The Joys of Incest
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>>8076274
Many parallels with the Trump phenomenon.
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>>8072855

Have you been to a predominantly black neighborhood before? Or Detroit?

It's not blindly accepting things if you're literally seeing it happen.
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>>8076308
>Le trump is le evil nazi meme
Haha go watch John Oliver, you cuck reddit SJW white genocide. Trump is not a nazi. I am a nazi and I support trump, but you don't have to. He is a business genius and the masculine father figure you never had and instinctively desire
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>>8077263
this, really.

I grew up in a really safe white area. I bought into the liberal party line, "not all niggers"

When I got older I moved to shitty areas where I could afford to live on my own. Ghettos, essentially. Guess how long it took for me to become the victim of armed robbery, and guess the race of the perps.

Shit is real.
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>>8077277
Nice satirical post.
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>>8072983

He got elected right?
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>>8073306
>Anyone can be "intelligent" regardless of which part of the globe they call home or their ethnicity
Do you actually believe that? Do you think Ashkenazi Jews winning ~20% of Nobel prizes while being less than 0.1% of the World's population is entirely down to "having the drive"? The idiocy of some of the people in this thread is astounding.
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>>8072352
This.
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>>8076308
sup Tomas
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>>8077996
I see the point you're trying to make but you're actually arguing against it because everyone knows the Jews run the Nobel prize committee and favor their own.
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>>8075488
>look, even if you were to show that 80% of africans were less intelligent than 80% of white people, how could this be implimented in policy?

youre gonna hate this but: slavery. theyre good for their labor and will at least get fed/basic needs met.
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>>8077263
i live in nyc. i don't see evidence of any of these """facts"""
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>>8075957
>frogposting
>bad
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>>8075143
>Multicultural means several cultures at once, not "amorphous grey blob of culture"
the end result of multicultural is "amorphous grey blob of culture". why do you hate cultural diversity?
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>>8080104
I don't hate diversity. It's not a value in itself. I care more about human freedom and flourishing. Both the right-wing and liberal notions of 'diversity' are ways to control people
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>>8079375

During slavery africans were expected to feed themselves. Each slave was given a few hours a day of free time to tend marginal land on the edge of his master's fields. Some slaves managed to work their way out of bondage by making good use of their free time and selling extra food and goods. Slave owners also rented out africans to city people, and when they weren't working for their temporary master they were free to pick up extra jobs.

I read the journal of a plantation overseer in the Caribbean, and he actually owed his slave girlfriend money. She was a good seamstress and had to bail him out a few times. His boss eventually freed her so the overseer and her could get married. They were very fond of each other.

Probably cheaper in the long run to hand out minimum wages and welfare.
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>>8072352
Round of applause for the gentleman.
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>>8075903
I am pretty sure they wanted to win lel.
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>he thinks the Jews were 'scapegoated'
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>>8072352
Lmao what a cuck. Here I thought /lit/ was full of intellectuals but apparently not.
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>>8072352
You know that nationalism and wishing to destroy others aren't the same thing? You can love your country without wishing for others to submit to you? Those Brits and Americans who served against Germany had some of the greatest nationalism of any period.
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>>8072352
the thread should have ended here
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>>8081379
But that was no tru gommunism comrade :^)
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