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Ex muslim atheist living in a muslim country here. Should i read
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Ex muslim atheist living in a muslim country here. Should i read the bible? Is it worth reading? What would i learn from it?
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>Ex muslim atheist living in a muslim country here

Rest in peace
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>>8065581
Technically i live in a secular country with a muslim majority population.
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t*rkroach :D
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>>8065591
Top reply
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>>8065591
Why are Turks called cockroaches? Became there's so many of them?
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Yes, absolutely. Definitively yes.

It's the single most important piece of writing in the western canon, and arguably the entirety of human history. Regardless of what you think of Christianity, every significant philosopher, writer and artist has to address it to some degree, be it negative, positive, or ambivalent dismissal.

Not to mention even though calling it "the good book" is a meme, it's fantastically clever and well written. The KJV is pretty much the standard for English but I'd expect the Vulgate to be even better.
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>>8065593

But is it false?
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>>8065578
You have no reason not to read parts of the New Testament at least. The four main gospels are self contained and short.
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>>8065585
I see. And yes, the Bible is well worth reading. I personally recommend the English King James Version, but if your English is not that good then you should be able to find a Swedish translation relatively easily.
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>>8065600
Their disgusting, brown complexion might have something to do with it.
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>>8065591
>>>/int/
>>>/pol/
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>>8065612
Kek
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>>8065607
Which parts would you suggest me to read? This one is translated from old Greek.

(mektup means letter, vahiy means revelation)
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oh shit low res
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I'm also an ex-Muslim
The old testament is worth reading. New testament is boring.
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>>8065578
No it's boring and you wouldn't learn anything that's not obvious.
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instead of bible, read this
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>>8065578
Yes, it's part of the Western Canon.
Don't disappoint senpai Harold Bloom desu.
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>>8065612
This was some smooth shit
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>>8065652
the new testament is the boring one to you? pages and pages of
>some faggot begat some other faggot
is somehow worth reading?
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>>8065652
Have you read either? Old Testament has exciting capeshit tier moments but it's mostly heaving through a bog, New Testament is where it's at if you're a clever reader
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>>8065612
Pretty good banter
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>>8065621
First four there bud, Matta-Yuhanna.
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>>8065669
Good day to you sir *tips fedora*
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>>8065714
Woah that title. Tolstoy can't be this basic can he? Maybe Chesterton was right in making fun of him.
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>>8065578
It's worth learning about the history of Christianity, it's had a huge impact on European culture and by extension everywhere Europeans colonised.

The Gospel of Mark is easy to read and gives a good overview of Jesus' ministry. From there I'd recommend Matthew -> Luke + Acts -> John. The Pauline epistles are our only insight into very early Christianity, so they're definitely worth reading, but do so alongside some analysis since you need to know about the context of the era.

Religions Of The Ancient Mediterranean podcast has a good introduction to it in seasons 1, 2, 3 and 5.

http://www.philipharland.com/Blog/religions-of-the-ancient-mediterannean-podcast-collection-page-series-1-6/
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>>8065621
>Icindekiler

I remember that word from when I was a kid in the early nineties and we used Turkish-made bubblegum cards as currency and status symbols.

So you guys use the same word for food ingredients and a book's table of contents, kek.
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>>8065612
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>>8065914
İçindekiler basically means "what is inside."
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>>8065578
Read the bible. I am also an ex muslim living in a muslim country. The Bible is beautifully written and it has helped consolidate some of the "muslim" morals I haven't completely disbanded, like a belief in modesty, honour, abstaining from meaningless sex and over indulgence, etc.
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>>8065612
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>>8065765
>>8065774
Yes, the old testament is the one Islamic theology derives most from and it's interesting to dig deep into that for an ex-Muslim
New testament is like Jesus's blog most of the time but narrated in third person.
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>>8065612
Damn fine work, anon
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>>8065600
>Why are Turks called cockroaches?
It's an /int/ meme. An old one but it's been flogged to death because /pol/ stole it and they have no class or sense of humour.

>>8065578
>Should i read the bible?
Sure, if you want

>Is it worth reading?
Yes it's pretty good

>What would i learn from it?
Jewish mythology and Christian philosophy
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>>8065914
>>8065986

It's Contents.
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>>8065578
Old testament has most of the good stuff desu, Jesus is kind of a faggot imo. But if you like western lit it does all kind of flow through the new testament, though Plato remains upstream from it.
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>>8065585
Are you french or british?
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>>8065578
>Should i read the bible?
Yes
>Is it worth reading?
No
>What would i learn from it?
That Jesus is the super #1 source of all love and compassion, even though he acts like an arrogant cunt much of the time

You'll also learn that neither Jesus nor Paul expected the world to still be existing this long
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>>8065578
You'll learn how to make american friends.
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>>8066701
This. You have to really want it to be true ir just passively accept the dominate interpretation to overlook this.
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>>8065578
Its an interesting book even if you're not religious. Go for it.
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>>8065578
ex atheist Christian living in an unreligious country here. I'd say it's worth reading, but back when I was an atheist I got nothing out of it when I read it. if you don't really want to read it, you're probably going to get little out of it
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You have to be pretty blunt in the head to not get something out of reading it, even if you're the utmost form of smug reddit loving reader it has a plethora of profound sayings for the time.

It's pretty much influenced every single book after in some way, atleast till the modern era, you don't see bible references as much nowadays as people are less educated in theology/care less.
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>>8066852
How and why did you convert?
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>>8066852
You were either literally retarded when you read it before and have gotten some Flowers for Algernon treatment since then, or you haven't learned anything from the Bible since you became a believer either.
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>>8067006
The best thing to do with a Bible is burn it.
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>>8066670
kek

Also, I would advise against it, it is more of a political manifesto from what i understand as opposed to an actual philosophical text.
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>>8067012
I actually agree with that but there's a lot to be learned from the text from a historical standpoint.
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Thanks for all replies lads. I'm going to read it once my final exams are over.
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