Do you think he's well read?
Sure.
he probably pays people to read to him
he's very stupid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upC8pX3RY0A
He said Henry Janes was his favorite novelist and T. S. Eliot his favorite poet. He knows Latin, Ancient Greek, Spanish, Italian, French, Middle English, Old English. He has released audiobooks for Rimbaud's poetry, Divine Comedy Beowulf, Trolius and Criseyde, and more. He has a PhD in literature with a focus on metamodernism. What do you think?
>>8060692
I think he did alright.
"What did you think of Citizen Kane?" would be an opening debate question in an ideal world.
>>8060710
I thought Yeats was his favorite poet
>>8060710
>What do you think?
That you have spent too much time shitposting on /pol/.
>>8060710
>'knowing' Middle English
Nigga it's just modern English with minor modifications to spelling, vocabulary and conjugation. You can undrstand Middle English perfectly well with minor annotations.
>>8060748
But to stay on topic, I would genuinely be shocked if he's read a single book for pleasure in his entire life. Feel free to shock me.
I read lots of books. The best books. And I've had plenty of success as a writer. I've written some fantastic books. Some of the best selling books of all time.
>>8060743
>muh /pol/ boogeyman
you missed the turn to reddit
Sanders read the most out of all of them.
>>8060753
Ask anyone and they'll tell ya, I only read the best books and I've learned everything there is to know from America's best and smartest writers, ask anybody
Trump don't really give a fuck.
He don't read books nor watch TV/films, basically an American.
The only reason he's so popular now is because of his""""""""""humour"""""""""". Since the guy is doing his whole campaign by his own money he's also more free (more amurikan) to joke around or say truths nobody else would say.
American politics is a joke and Trump is the funniest clown. #build_wall #winter_is_coming
>>8060759
This. He'd probably be able to have the best book conversations. Ben Carson probably second.
That being said, this notion that being well-read is an essential quality is based on outdated tabula rasa concepts of humanity. There is literally no need for an aristocrat to be familiar with your faggoty little pomo crypieces.
>>8060777
>Ben Carson
lol
This is the nigger who literally believes the pyramids were built by Christians for storing grain.
>>8060710
I really wanna fact check this but in lieu of that that's badass
>>8060781
Or a shy dude way out of his depth that had his thoughts jumbled from the high-energy media game and who never was really interested in Egyptology in the first place.
But sure, go ahead and do a complete psych scan based on a factoid.
>>8060675
He's doesn't really need to be literary. He's smart with people and money.
TRUMP WILL END NAFTA GATT ISIS & POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
TRUMP IS A GOOD THING FOR AMERICA
>>8060710
Who was this pasta originally written for?
His favorite book is "All's Quiet on the Western Front"
His favorite movies are Citizen Kane, The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, Gone with the Wind, Goodfellas and The Godfather.
While that taste would not qualify as original, it is, I think, pure Trump aesthetic. It fits.
The most interesting thing about Trump is that he seems to be more of a working class sort of guy. If a working glass guy was rich, that is.
>>8060751
He said his favorite book is All Quiet on the Western Front.
All he really knows is real estate and to a lesser extent, finance.
He's never had a deep thought in his life.
>>8060782
Are you fucking retarded?
>>8060799
Right, and I see no reason to believe him. His saying that is just another tool to emphasize his sensationalist masculinity.
>>8060759
You have a lot of time to read when you're unemployed.
>>8060803
This, so much. Anything about Trump that goes against what I already think of him is obviously a cynical ploy to make people think he's something other than what I know he is.
>>8060800
Still the best choice for America right now.
>>8060806
>One of the most prolific legislators in the senate
>unemployed
>>8060803
That is a fantastic book though
>>8060803
So you're just making up reasons to hate on him, I get it. I was in middle school once too.
>>8060806
So explain Sweden and our socialist paradise small cities where no one has read a thing
>>8060808
Of the 3 choices left? Literally debatable. But the system dictates that those 3 are our choices. They're not the best choices for America right now. There are hundreds of better Americans.
>>8060809
look up his pre-1981 years
>>8060809
He was up until he was like 40.
>>8060814
Just because you have time to read doesn't mean you do.
>>8060675
Yes. Trump is literally a genius. He has an iq of 140. He will save western civilization and more importantly make America great again
>>8060807
Yes, more or less. Trump himself is a cynical ploy.
>>8060811
Never implied it wasn'tI haven't read it.
>>8060812
No, I just won't let my hate for the embodiment of society's ills be so easily ablated. I have not been given any reason to believe a word that comes out of the orangeman's mouth, though again I'd be glad to have my attention drawn to such a reason. But as far as I can tell, Trump is the logical conclusion of the lack of seriousness, in the deepest sense, that plagues people today. Pound bemoans society's preference for a mold in plaster to fine alabaster. But now people can be content only with pixels on a screen: the representation of representation, the parody of a parody. And that is what gives us Trump. I'm just praying for nuclear obliteration at this point.
Trump is doing it out of pure love for his country. Hilllary? We all know she is only driven by power.
>>8060814
why choose to read when you live in paradise?
>>8060818
Of those TWO choices, yes.
Trump is the best.
He also promised to bomb the shit out of Isis, yet there are still people who don't want to vote for him? Explain this logic to me.
>>8060836
You need to be 18 to post on this website, Jimmie.
>>8060814
The Koran still counts.
>>8060836
>logical conclusion of the lack of seriousness, in the deepest sense, that plagues people today. Pound bemoans society's preference for a mold in plaster to fine alabaster.
>>8060842
Literally readit: the post
>>8060841
Because clearly bombing the shit out of a place works every time
>>8060853
It actually does. We nuked those japs so bad they're still funny in the head decades latter. If there were no nukes, there would be no anime
>>8060853
In this case it does.
>>8060863
>Case in point.
Claiming that aesthetic issues show a lack of seriousness in the deepest sense is moronic given the real world issues of today in economics, security, ethics, ect. You realize that Trump plays off the pretentious posturing and out of touch attitudes of pseudo elitists such as yourself.
what's up with the trump defense force in this thread?
threads like this are a breeding ground for autism and content that doesn't relate to literature at all
it's only cool when I do it
>>8060908
they hope he'll give them money
>>8060908
>people have opinions I don't like
>>8060809
>prolific legislator
Very few bills written by Bernie ever get anywhere, he's kind of like Ron Paul in that he's a terribly ineffective idealist legislator.
But unlike Ron Paul he sucks the establishment's dick when needed. He eviscerated Paul's attempt to audit the fed. Also Bernie has done nothing with his life other than politics. Even Hillary at least practiced law (unscrupulously as with everything else she's ever done). The ideal of a citizen legislator is dead in this country and it's a damned shame.
Trump is essentially an American Crassus. The fact that he even got this far shows that Plato was right about democracy and that while our system was once well designed and functioned more or less effectively for almost 250 years, unaddressed executive power grabs, politicization of the court system and the general atomizing effects of democracy on society have condemned us to an imperial state.
>>8060908
suck my fucking dick you fucking retard
>>8060799
you're wrong, it's the bible
>>8060936
yeah you FUCKING retard shut the FUCK up i FUCKING hate you you FUCKING piece of SHIT
>>8060925
Crassus was an incredibly dumb man, don't compare him to Trump.
>>8060918
i dont care that people support trump, but im just surprised to see that so many people are defending him on this board.
>>8060951
most people in American, throughout every spectrum and class, support Trump
>>8060956
great point
>>8060906
There are several things wrong with this post. For one thing, I'm not just squabbling about 'aesthetic issues;' I'm talking about the discounting of aesthetics as a whole. What, after all, is the point of economy or securiy? Surely they are not to be pursued for their own sake. They must always be in the service of something greater, and I would call that something greater 'the finer things in life,' whether poetry for poetry's sake, philosophy for philosophy's sake, or mathematics for its own sake. We must not be governed only by means and take them to be our ends, and we also need to realize that the ultimate ends are good for their own sake.
But of course we've never had philosopher-kings in this country--which is a fault. I guess Trump might be argued to be in a way the end result of American pragmatism, although I'd prefer not to be so negative. I guess my real problem with Trump is not that he's not an artist or a philosopher, or even that he actively discourages art and philosophy (we've had plenty of those types in our country's history): the real problem is that he, as a man and a symbol, is exactly the opposite of everything 'fine' in life. He, his mannerisms, his 'ideologies' (I'm not convinced he has any strong convictions), his cult, are all totally opposite to what life is really about. It's not really pragmatism as you seem to think, though pragmatism can be an evil in its own right. It is a distortion, a parody, of pragmatism and populism. As I said, a parody of a parody; a distortion of a distortion. I don't care if what I say is 'pretentious,' at least I mean it.
>>8060753
I congratulate you on your ability to imitate Trump, but I'm not sure it's a good thing.
>>8060914
every post after this post has proven me right
>>8060798
>All's Quiet on the Western Front
>All's
>'s
>>8060949
*incredibly dumb man who was easily in the top 3 richest men who ever lived despite having all of his wealth confiscated as a young man
Yes, his final campaign was pants on head retarded, yes, he was, well, fucking crass in everything he did. But Crassus was not stupid. His contributions to Sulla's victory in Italy and his men did most of the fighting in the third servile war.
Crassus was a trillionaire in modern terms. His fortune would make Trump look like a pauper.
>>8060956
passable bait.
>>8060692
>likes Citizen Kane
That's it! I am now a #cruzmissile!
>>8060982
It's pretty easy. Short repetitive sentences
>>8061044
dont forget that trump is an illeist i.e. he speaks of himself in the third person like some anime girls and adult narcissists do
if you imitate trump you should avoid using 'i'
>>8060976
Security and economics are pursued for their own sake since the goods they provide have intrinsic value, even the pursuit of those things have intrinsic value to humans. Most aesthetic theories are nothing more than social tools to create hierarchies, naturalized aesthetic are probably possible but I doubt someone like you would advocate them. You are assuming that art and philosophy are the ends that people need, but many people would rank personal agency, objective knowledge, and social relations far higher. You confuse me with someone who supports Trump. What I am trying to say is that Trump gains every time his opposition reveals how out of touch they are, how conceited they are, and how arrogant they are.
>>8060675
He has an IQ of 153 and is worth $4 billion, so yes, I'd imagine he's very, very well read.
leftism has been eroding the Western democratic model for 80 years now, nationalism will put it out of its misery
I don't think Trump is the man to do it however, I would rather Hillary get in power
>>8061065
>He has an IQ of 153 and is worth $4 billion
i believe he either paid somebody to disguise and pass the test for him or he bribed somebody to have his results fixed
>>8061072
IQ doesn't mean much anyway.
My IQ is 139 and I'm still a failure.
>>8060782
>really wanna fact check that
>doesn't google it
this is why trump is winning
>>8060798
>The most interesting thing about Trump is that he seems to be more of a working class sort of guy. If a working glass guy was rich, that is.
>literally falling for it
>>8060710
>T. S. Eliot his favorite poet
a free verse poet as his favorite
absolutely disgusting
Doesn't need to read literature - he IS literature.
>>8060800
He's a businessman, entrepreneur, husband, ex-husband, father, grandfather, and he's also nearly 70 years old. You're likely in your 20s and you spend your time memeing on 4chan. In his sleep he probably has deeper thoughts than you.
>>8061089
Well, clearly that doesnt affect Mr. Trump, as he's a father of five, loving husband and a billionaire instead of a low test pussy undergrad like you.
>>8060908
You're not on reddit anymore, boyo. This is not a safe space, this is 4 fucking chan, the internet hate machine. Home to the baddest edgetrolls in cyberspace. What? Thought this place was gonna be full of self-hating John Oliver-watching SJW numale liberals? Well, think again, cuck. This is a PC free zone, nobody gives a fuck about your feels it's all about Facts, Logic and Statistics. If you don't like it you can fuck off back to tumblr.
>>8060777
>That being said, this notion that being well-read is an essential quality is based on outdated tabula rasa concepts of humanity. There is literally no need for an aristocrat to be familiar with your faggoty little pomo crypieces.
Why is /lit/ so historically illiterate?
>>8060781
Dude played too much Civ 2. I can sympathize.
Ben Carson seems like a good man.
Very sincere, too, DFW would have loved him.
>>8061151
niggers arent humans
>>8061125
The thing I hate most about /pol/lacks is that they somehow manage to be stupid enough to not realize they play the exact same victim/identity/feelings politics but for anglophiles.
Fuck everyone itt
>>8061175
suck my fucking dick you fucking butthurt sjw retard and/or a subhuman nigger
>>8061060
>the goods they produce have intrinsic value
Lol
Regarding the rest of your post, humans can be said to have primary and secondary needs, the former being biological, the latter spiritual. By continually ameliorating his conditions, man spends less time fulfilling his primary needs and thus has more time for secondary needs: art, philosophy, whatever it may be.
>objective knowledge
U srs senpai?
>>8061175
The Alt-Right is the new punk rock. You got an almighty Cultural Marxist establishment bent on destroying everything that stands on its path... We are just a plucky gang of rebels hurling dank memes at the Cathedral. Somebody's gotta fight for the West, or just give up, I'm sure your future white children are gonna enjoy their lives as 2nd class citizens in Sharia transgender dystopia
>>8061195
Was it good?
>>8060692
How so? That analysis is pretty spot on.
>>8061189
Are you trying to claim that there is no intrinsic value in food, water, shelter, medicine, and weapons? Are you trying to claim that pursuit of primary needs dose not have intrinsic value to humans? Surrogate activities are often practice for meeting primary needs. Believe or not people find meaning in fulfilling primary need.
>the former being biological, the latter spiritual
bullshit, most secondary needs are material, social, or psychological
>By continually ameliorating his conditions, man spends less time fulfilling his primary needs and thus has more time for secondary needs: art, philosophy, whatever it may be.
no shit, the question is one of priority. Sperging out about plaster is moronic
>U srs senpai?
Empiric, or factual knowledge. I know it foreign concept to epistemologically compromised individuals. Spare me the brain in the vat...
>>8061210
you write like my ex-girlfriendand no it was not good
>>8060675
he's clearly well-read
>>8060692
honest, reflective, insightful
>>8060781
>he hasn't read gifted hands
>>8061210
Literally this
>>8060692
I think this is legitimately a difficult topic for him to discuss candidly on film because there have got to be elements of that movie he identifies with, but his brand doesn't have room for that kind of self-reflection. Not saying Donald doesn't ever reflect, but he won't be seen doing so.
>>8060769
>this is what simple minded European idiots think of the election
dont talk about something you know nothing about, please
>>8061072
His IQ is estimated from his SAT scores IIRC, which had a very strong and predictable correlation to IQ test results until the 1990s'.
>>8061362
>His IQ is estimated from his SAT scores IIRC
it's based on the average sat for wharton students. trump transferred to upenn from fordham because an admissions knew his father, so it's likely that trump's sat score wasn't as high as the average.
>>8060692
>he had the wealth, but he didn't have the happiness
>that blank stare of emptiness after those words
>>8060925
>muh Platonian democracy
>Trump is an imperialist using the system
What is every president from LBJ to Obama?
>>8061680
there hasn't been a good POTUS since Calvin Coolidge
I don't think he have time for that and he definitelly did not have time in his prime business years.
>>8060675
>Any demagogue in 21st century Murica
>Being well read
http://www.ambitiousdiva.com/2012/01/01/if-donald-trump-reads-three-hours-daily-why-arent-you/
"""""3 hours a day""""""
more then most people on this board
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8
He reads only the best books, the best books.
>>8061332
you don't need to say "simple minded" and "idiots". That's pretty redundant. If you really want to insult Europeans, talk about how America is a developed nation with fantastic literacy rates, low crime rates, great infrastructure and universal healthcare. Hang on-
>>8061805
Hitler is top drawer when it comes to rhetoric
first time on /lit/, why don't you cucks have flags? fucking ju-males
>>8061806
most yuropoors fail to realize that there are two Americas.
>>8060818
We didn't have two choices, at the least we had like 20. These are the candidates we deserve.
>>8061815
>score by alumni
ok m8
but yeah sure university of san diego is better than the sorbonne. sure.
>>8061815
The funny thing is that now, most of the people who come out of top American universities are awful spoiled pudgy little rich kids who have never wanted for anything, and so will never produce anything of cultural value.
>>8061806
America's crime rate isn't that high. Their homicide rate is 4 per 100 000 per year, compared to 1 per 100 000 per year for western Europe.
The other stuff is pretty damning though.
>>8061815
sometimes i think if i had an american accent i'd kill myself.
>>8061825
>he think alumni score is score by alumni
The only exceptional Continental country Switzerland when it comes to universities. For the last century the only thing French universities have been good for is producing Marxist pap. USCD is a really good school, you have heard of Scripps?
>>8061831
That is true, but that goes for Western Europe as well. Imported students, aspies, and first/second generation immigrants are the lifeblood of universities.
>>8061815
it looks as either english-only rating or as a rating heavily biased to the english speaking universities
>>8061859
Checkout the chink rankings or others. They all end up with the vast majority being American, a handful of British schools, then a few Swiss and some Asian schools, and finally Continental schools
>>8061870
i wouldn't wonder because it seems as a prestige rating and the education in english is more in demand than any other
>>8061875
English bias probably does exist, but not to the extent that correcting it would significantly change Continental Europe poor showing.
>TheAcademicRankingofWorldUniversities(ARWU),firstpublishedin2003andupdated
annuallybytheInstituteofEducationatShanghaiJiaoTongUniversity(China),wasthefirst
internationalleaguetable,offeringascientificmechanismforcomparinguniversitiesaround
theworld.ARWUusesseveralcomparativeandseeminglyobjectiveindicatorsofacademic
orresearchperformance,includingalumniandstaffwinningNobelprizesandfieldsmedals,
highlycitedresearchers,articlespublishedinNatureandScience,articlesindexedinmajor
citationindices,andpercapitaacademicperformanceofaninstitution.
>InNovember2004,theTimesHigherEducationSupplementpublisheditsfirstWorld
UniversityRanking(WUR),alistingofthetop200institutionsacrosstheglobe.Using
subjectiveinputs—peerreviewsfromacademicsandemployers—andquantitativedata,
suchasthenumbersofinternationalstudentsandfaculty,andtheinfluenceofthefaculty,
asrepresentedbyresearchcitations,tocomparetheinternationalstatureofinstitutions,
theWURintendstomeettheneedsofconsumers(students,academicstaff,researchers,
policymakers)seekingreliableinformationaboutuniversitiesaroundtheworld.
>>8061886
>In November 2004, the Times Higher Education Supplement published its first World
University Ranking (WUR), a listing of the top 200 institutions across the globe. Using
subjective inputs—peer reviews from academics and employers—and quantitative data,
such as the numbers of international students and faculty, and the influence of the faculty, as represented by research citations, to compare the international stature of institutions, the WUR intends to meet the needs of consumers (students, academic staff, researchers, policy makers) seeking reliable information about universities around the world.
fuck it if this formatting does not work
Take a look at: https://www.snowballmetrics.com/wp-content/uploads/assessing-europe-university-based-research_en.pdf
I like literature.
>>8061147
jej
>>8061886
>>8061892
well, consider for instance russian universities
they are somewhere deep below and never in its history were considered among the top ones, meantime russia managed to be the second country in the world who made the nuclear bomb and also it was the first who launched an artificial satellite of the earth and the first human to the orbit
those ratings are merely for the prestige
>>8061831
>kids who have never wanted for anything, and so will never produce anything of cultural value.
Interesting theory of action that you pulled right out of your ass.
>>8061905
The Soviets had some narrow triumphs, but it was very weak outside those. Russian universities are still respected for Mathematics and Computer Science though. They would rank quite high if they could bring their other departments in line.
>>8061195
>Cultural Marxism
opiniondiscarded.jpg
>>8061098
yeah the other republicans were so much better lmao
>>8060858
>no anime
are you implying that would be a bad thing?
>>8060675
Well, he clearly never read his Dickens.
>>8061108
T. S. Eliot isn't free verse
I'm voting for Trump because he's anti-SJW and not a cuckservative.
>>8062477
I'm voting for him because I think he'll bankrupt the American empire.
>>8060692
That was a bit like being led by a middleschool English teacher into basic analysis.
Kane was RICH but he wasn't necessarily _________
>>8060675
Oh yeah, without a doubt. His politics is retarded, but he himself is not.
>>8062509
Hillary will be better at that
>>8062639
trump ain't a neoliberal ya dingdong, he's the only dude to oppose these gay ass trade treaties the jews have been pushing for the last 20 years
>>8062509
>>8062634
>>8062639
>>8062642
Remember. It's not about the economics. Nothing capitalists can do will prevent the inevitable crashes. It's about the image. With a hard-right Republican in power as the economy fails, nothing will stop the left-wing backlash, and we can finally have you faggots in front of a wall, where you belong.
>>8062657
how you gonna shoot us you don't have any guns
>>8062518
wealthy
>>8062665
We're talking about America, anon.
>>8062674
American leftists don't own guns
would absolutely love to see a left v right civil war in America which is why I support Hillary
>>8062676
>American leftists don't own guns
If Trump catches the bomb as it explodes, everyone will be a leftist.
>>8060782
u stupid m8
Trump is only liked by fatherless manchildren who need a 'strong man' figure in their lives and contrarian edgy kids who are sick of Spineless Obama.
>>8062686
No, just contrarian edgy kids.
It cracks me up that /pol/ still tries to revel in it's political incorrectness. Because it isn't. It's just a more extreme version of the mainstream.
>>8062681
doubt it, more like a return to establishment politics
I don't disagree that it would be bad for the right if Trump won though, it would however be a momentary distraction
