Can anyone recommend me other self discipline books? I found this one on amazon for $4.50 for Kindle and am interested, but are there other books out there that you can recommend for me, /lit/?
Thank you.
Learn to meditate.
None of that dry-vipassana meme shit; look into jhana.
>>8049641
Meme suggestion.
Truth is most people work jobs that wear them down for a wage that barely affords them any meaningful pleasures. You can meditate and work out and eat as many turnips as you like, fact is you're cucked until you embrace the NEET lifestyle and become truly enlightened.
>>8049681
Please, for the love of all written words, for the sake of future minds, for the good of all memes - Would you please stop using the word "cuck" to describe fucking EVERYTHING
>>8049885
why would he be cucked to you in that manner? he is a wild and free spirited NEET and answers to no man.
why would u want self-discipline when u just can masturbate ur life away like a neet?
>>8049906
You sneaky little fucker! I will follow you into every thread and shout this in your face: DO NOT USE THE LETTER "U" IN PLACE OF THE WORD "YOU"
>>8049900
Because he is my property
Self help books are worthless. Just simply do things better.
>>8049641
You don't know what you're talking about.
Jhannas are attained menta absorptions. Key word, attained. They are the effect of meditation. You can achieve it in Vipassana or Mindfulness type of meditation. It just so happens that breath meditation touches on both (and was the technique that Siddartha Gotama used to achieved Enlightenment).
i like to buy a massive chocolate bar and stare at it for about 4 hours after a 12 hour fast whilst listening to rain sounds
I've crumbled like 4/10 so far which is alright
>>8049900
Dubs checkarooneyed...
>>8049994
>Why don't poor people just make more money?
>>8050018
>still believes that vipassana is a 'technique'
Wew lad.
Samatha and Vipassana are qualities of mind, buckeroo. The whole concept of Vipassana being a 'technique' is commentarial memery, mostly propagated by Burmese homo's like Goenka.
'Breath meditation' is just Anapanasati. Vipassana (and samatha) are just a quality of mind that arises during the practice.
People conflate vipassana with breath meditation only because of the western concept of 'mindfulness meditation', which for whatever reasons is sometimes also referred to as 'vipassana' - as if being a separate practice. This is wrong and is mostly propagated by Burmese meme monks, like I already siad.
'Dry-vipassana' practices like noting/labelling have no foundation in the suttas. Buddhism is a 'dhyana school'. A cursory glance at the suttas will reveal this, and every academic who specialises in early Buddhism also agree with this (Bronkhorst et al.)
That's why I'm telling OP not to fall for 'dry-vipassana' memery, and instead look into Jhana. It's the meat and bones of Buddhism, and an infinitely more profound practice than the shit that is mostly being propagated in the West today.
>>8050265
Not the OP, but can you suggest some resources to begin looking into this?
>>8050319
I had a somewhat in depth conversation about buddhism on here a couple of weeks ago and a book that seemed to be well recommended by a few anons was The Mind Illuminated. It's sitting basically unopened until after my exams but it looks really interesting and quite in depth; it seems to take you progressively through meditations. It will be the first meditation book I use and it looks thorough but not daunting. It's about 500 pages but formatted quite pleasantly and spaciously and has the occasional pictures or diagrams.
>>8049641
I've been practicing meditation for the past week. I've also been looking into applying Feldenkrais to my lifestyle.
>>8049994
Shit advice. It's not about doing things better, it's about focusing on staying on task, instead of being fickle and lazy when it comes to it. That's where I've been really struggling.
So nobody has any suggestions? I suppose I'll just buy this one on Amazon. I went to my local library earlier and came across nothing but anger management books or dealing with anxiety (library has fuck all for books).
>>8050362
This sounds nice, perhaps I'll look into it.
>>8049994
>Self help books are worthless.
This is wrong
>Just simply do things better.
This is right.
>>8050455
If self-help books are of any value how come they're read almost exclusively by permanent losers?
>>8050476
CHECK MATE
>>8050476
Because people in general are almost always permanent losers. Books that address specific issues are useful for people that actually put the knowledge to use. The general 7 Habits type books are pretty shit though.
>>8050476
have you ever read a self-help book? maybe you wouldn't be a neet sitting in the basement masturbating all day if you read one
>>8050448
Self-help books are for people who need guidance from others.
Read the Greeks, not even kidding.
>>8050541
>people who need guidance from others.
Literally every person at some point in their life (unless they learn how to access their genetically encoded knowledge of course)
>>8050541
lmao you're fucking stupid
>>8050541
>thinking you don't need guidance from others
stay pleb neetlord
Read Meditations.
>>8050580
that is cheesy as shit
>>8050580
Meditations is just an antique Art Of The Deal
>>8050591
Didn't he write it himself?
>>8050319
A lot of stuff can be found online; on forums and what not.
Simply googling 'jhana' should give you plenty to go on.
There are a couple of books on jhana, but the one I can recommend 'Mindfulness, Bliss and Beyond'. It's written by a (western) monk from the Thai Forest Tradition. He has a huge boner for jhana so his book is a good resource in that regard.
The Mind Illuminated which has already been mentioned, seems to be liked by a lot of people. I personally don't like it, but it's a good book. Other than that, there are hundreds of other books on meditation that might not directly relate to jhanas but are still good. I encourage you to do your own research.
But honestly you can probably find more helpful stuff on jhana, and meditation, on the internet then in books.
I won't go full autism on what I think is proper meditation (unless you want me to), but I'd like to stress the aspect of relaxation. Meditation is an unbinding of tension, and these jhanas arise and develop as more and more tension in the mind (and body) falls away.
Here are some links to stuff on forums:
http://www.dharmaoverground.org/discussion/-/message_boards/message/81617
http://www.dharmaoverground.org/discussion/-/message_boards/message/1545975
http://www.dharmaoverground.org/discussion/-/message_boards/message/5666656
https://www.reddit.com/r/Buddhism/comments/49z2se/jhana_for_noobs/ (inb4 'le reddit xD')
http://swamij.com/
https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/meditation-1
>>8050595
who gives a shit about the author, cheese is cheese
>>8050563
>not being an indigo child tapping into the akashic records for all his information from birth
I bet you use wikipedia too.
Willpower - Roy F. Baumeister and John Tierney
is pretty good
if asian self-help was worth a damn asia wouldn't be a shithole filled with impoverished peasants and horrible inequality....western self-help will tell how to achieve your goals, eastern self-help will try to make you feel guilty for having goals and then tell you to sit on your ass and learn to accept that you will never achieve anything....now compare that and see why one civilization is prosperous and the other is a terrible hell of poverty and vice
>>8050627
Didn't this propagate the "willpower is limited" meme which actually saps people of willpower?
>>8050631
Yeah they do go over those studies and write about them and they do indeed go with it. I think its legit. Its basically when you are tired or worn out your ability to inhibit your impulses gets weakened. It seems pretty true to me. There is also a descriptions and tips on how to know when you are depleted and what you can about it. Knowing that you are not a superhuman with infinite amounts of ability to direct your attention and behavior doesn't really seem to be meme that should weaken your willpower.
>Goat Tier
>Not the Black Phillip kind
>>8050666
looks short.
also, checked.
>>8050654
I agree that it is probably legit but some recent studies have suggested that knowing that there are limits to willpower causes people give up prematurely compared to the control group that was told that there is no limit. Based on those results I think it is better to just behave as if there are no limits.
7 habits is good if you're a kid and just starting out. Some good books are
Models by Mark Manson
The Charisma Myth
Mastery by George Leonard
Mastery by Robert Greene
What every body is saying
Thinking fast and slow
>>8050689
That is a good point. I agree.
>>8050693
>The Charisma Myth
This was surprisingly useful to me. I was expecting bullshit but I was desperate so I read it anyway. If you apply it then it actually changes the way that people respond to you but it took a long time to build up the skills.
>>8050654
>>8050631
They did an expriment in which two groups were to perform a hard task. After that one group was given glucose refreshments and the other wasn't. As a result the one with the glucose help performed more of the second hard task
Willpower is in the realm of nervous system. It uses glucose as currency and if you get depleted it gets harder to use your willpower more. Doesn't mean you have to keep chugging glucose though,, the body obviously maintains a balance.
>>8050602
Thanks. You're a pretty cool dude.
