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Name the finest books on ancient and classical history
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Name the finest books on ancient and classical history
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All of it is shit from retards. People in those days were real dumbasses, I'll tell ya.
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>>8040722
Unlike the fine specimens of today such as yourself, anon.
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>>8040838
No, you.
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>>8040722
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>>8040851
Thanks this is all really useful but I dont want to read what ancients themselves wrote. Modern histories only
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The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
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>>8041023
shit.
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>>8041080
You're retarded.
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>>8041092
it's outdated you fucking mongoloid
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>>8041092
You don't even read.
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Finest? Roman revolution by ronald Syme. For actual overviews, get undergraduate books from Edinburgh or routledge. Osborne's Greece in the making is good. So is the one by hornblower in the same series.
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>>8041093
So is Moby-Dick. You going to call that shit too? It's a classic, and you can't change that.
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>>8041112
Moby-Dick is a work of fiction, it can't be "outdated" you fucking retard.

Decline and Fall, as an academic piece, is completely obsolete.
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>>8041117
Keep telling yourself that, cuck. Moby-Dick is filled with informative text with the intention of acting as a makeshift textbook in the form of a novel, and a majority of that information is wrong or outdated now.
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>>8041119
Do people actually believe this?
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>>8041119
>a majority of that information is wrong or outdated now.

Just like the shitty book you're trying to defend.
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>>8041119
is this bait?
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>>8041137
If it's just like DaFotRE and Moby-Dick isn't shit, then by that logic you agree that DaFotRE isn't shit.
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>>8041166
Moby-Dick isn't an academic work, therefore it doesn't matter if the information is archaic. I don't care what mental gymnastics you do to paint it as such.
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>>8041150
I already have this - unfinished - on my shelf.

Strauss uses way too much hearsay and barely refers to actual archaelogy or substansive evidence except when he explains that "we once believed Troy to be a small citadel but recent archaelogy has shown it to be a thriving hub of hundreds of acres!" Not even a tangential reference to why he believes this, just a vague style of narrative that he expects you to believe.
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>>8040714
what is this shoved up his ass?
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>>8041119
>Moby-Dick is filled with informative text with the intention of acting as a makeshift textbook in the form of a novel
No, "Moby Dick" is epic fantasy. Infodumps and autism are part of the epic fantasy genre since time immemorial.
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>>8041519
There is further reading at the back, and also a note of what sources he was using. Strauss is trying to convey an understanding of the Trojan war in the most compelling way possible. It would be extremely dry and niche if the book was a thoroughly sited thesis,

Added to this, Strauss is dealing with ancient history where the evidence is lacking, but educated conjecture - again, in the most compelling fashion.

In this mode he is more like a Herodotus here than a scientific historian.
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Anything by Adrian Goldsworthy
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