So Allen Ginsberg was a paedophile? Apparently he was a member of NAMBLA and supported the rights of men to have relationships with young boys. That's pretty fucked up, he was always my least favourite Beat writer anyway. Opinions?
>>8035118
are you a woman? if you are a man, why do you try to undermine your own rights to have sex with whoever you please? are you a cuck?
>>8035118
Dunno lol maybe
Are you the one that keeps making threads about him?
Read him, make up your own mind, then report back.
>>8035137
This is the first thread I have ever made on 4chan, let alone on /lit.
I have read him, and I completed a thesis on the beat generation. I just didn't know he supported paedophilia.
there is literally nothing wrong with pedophilia
>>8035154
why don't you like his writing?
what did he say in support of pedophilia?
don't just send ignorant people like me on a google search anon
>>8035168
Ginsberg was a supporter and member of North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA),[94] saying that "Attacks on NAMBLA stink of politics, witchhunting for profit, humorlessness, vanity, anger and ignorance ... I'm a member of NAMBLA because I love boys too– everybody does, who has a little humanity."[
>>8035118
So was Catullus. Poets are mostly sexual perverts of one sort or another, this is old news.
There are plenty of reasons to hate Ginsberg on his shit writing alone.
>>8035185
No wonder Michael Savage loved him so much.
>>8035118
the greeks too
>>8035118
Lots of jews are pedos, that and incest is kinda just what they do.
The Jew is truly a hideous blight upon humanity.
>>8035615
Which jew?
>>8035615
that's true for their whole race
>>8035161
'Sup kike. There is literally nothing wrong with pogroms.
>wrong
>>8035628
By definition, Christians bought into Semitic mythology hook line and sinker.
>>8035654
Up until very very recently, anti-semitism was a major part of Christian practice and theology.
>>8035185
Loving a boy is not the same thing as loving a child.
>>8035659
Except Christians carry a Jewish holy book with them everywhere they go.
>>8035781
Wouldn't know any christians that read the talmud or kabbalah out of anything but pure anthro interests 2bh
>>8035778
>only females are children
damn sjew's
Ginsberg told some good stories and wrote some good "stuff." Call it poetry or rants or whatever, I don't give a fuck. He didn't create the 50s Jazz/Beat movement, he just reported it in new, surprising, fresh ways. Howl is a brilliant work of observation. I don't know or care if he was degenerate. I mean, of course he was, and his work openly exposes it, proclaimed it in a time when it was supposed to hide and be shamed. He said fuck you and I like when people say fuck you.
If you are a pedophile there is something wrong with you.
>>8035819
>wrong
In related news, the pope fucks kids.
>>8035837
Yes.
>>8035819
There's something wrong with everybody, man. If you don't actually hurt anybody then you're only guilty of having poor taste.
>>8035784
Holy shit, you can't seriously be this fucking stupid can you?
What Christians refer to as "the Old Testament" was written by Jews. It's 100% Semitic mythology.
>>8035855
The OT has absolutely nothing to do with judaism or the jewish people, in fact it is largely a collection of texts condemning the jews.
>>8035859
Wew lad !
>>8035859
The Tanakh is the Old Testament. I'm saying this as a Christian, I'm not sure where you got this idea from but it is wrong.
>>8035863
>>8035867
The tanakh has pretty much nothing at all to do with the religion of judaism, only a few select fragments of the texts are used superficially in certain rituals.
And indeed much of the OT is an admonition of the jewish people and their wicked ways and devil worship, much as they continue to do to this day.
>>8035872
The Tanakh was written largely in Hebrew by Semites in the Levant and neighboring regions.
>>8035872
There is Orthodox Judaism and Reform.
Please stop.
>>8035878
Ginsberg was an Unorthodox Jew.
>>8035890
>The tanakh was inspired.
Kill yourself, moron.
>>8035891
Jesus was the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies.
>>8035118
Age of consent for heterosex 21 in most Failmerican states.
Age of consent for homosex 35 in the few AmeriKKKan states where it isn't banned.
No, I can see no reason to join it.
>>8035654
The more I learn about the israelites (not contemporary jews, mind you) and how high christians have regarded them, the less I think of them.
Before the fall of the bronze age civilizations, what is Israel today was part of Egypt back then. Something that's hardly mentioned in Exodus - that lovely stormfaggish genocidical fantasy about things that never happened.
>>8035909
>age of consent for heterosex 21
>age of consent for homosex 35
how can one man be so wrong?
>>8035905
Jesus is a fictional character specifically created to fulfill Old Testament 'prophecies'.
>>8035792
I hope this is bait & you're not being serious because I cringed so hard it hurt..
>>8035840
Get the fuck out you fink
>>8035917
More failnosaxon sex laws:
If a girl is 13 year old, was drunk and wore a short skirt, then it isn't rape.
If two 35-year old men have penis frottage and a third one is kissing the heads of the penises, then it's assault and battery and everyone is charged with raping all and everyone else in the company.
>>8035920
Jesus was probably not fictional. But Moses...
>>8035920
Jesus was a real person.
Whether you're gay or not it's pretty much agreed upon that his poetry is shit.
>>8035922
It's true, though.
>>8035927
The patriarchs were definitely fictional. Jesus was likely a fictional creation. But even if he was in some limited sense a real historical person, the stories about him were 100% fictional. The gospel of Mark is a line-for-line retelling of parts of the Old Testament. The other gospels retold Mark, with a few additions here and there.
>>8035947
At least Jesus is plausible. But Moses and the whole BS about exactly how many israelites being held in capture in Egypt and despite that not one line of written reference can be found in Egypt...
Fucking bronze age collapse! The only surviving civilization was Egypt who for some 2000 years has been belittled by christians and jews.
Why are so many homos accepting of pedophilia. It's not just gay men btw lesbians do this shit too. Fucked up
I was way into the Beat Generation in high school, but I didn't touch Ginsberg because I didn't like him on sight. He rubbed me the wrong way. Looked like a poseur sucking up to and trying to fit in with (and fuck) the real talents. I don't know where I got this impression, but now that I know he was also a literal pedophile, I'll consider my irrational aversion to him a testament to my intuition.
He was mediocre. But he was funny mediocre. He's dead, who cares what his private life was. You onna take up the mantles aintcha'?
>>8036129
Entirely agree but still pic related.
>>8035185
Attacks on the National Socialist Party stink of politics, witchhunting for profit, humorlessness, vanity, anger and ignorance ... I'm a member of the National Socialist Party because I hate Jews too– everybody does, who has a little humanity.
>>8036096
There's a whole organization devoted to the idea that men should be allowed to have sex with boys, but there's no similar organization (or at least of similar size) saying the same of girls. There's clearly something about gays that make them more likely to be, or more accepting of, pedos
He wanted to fuck Kerouac so bad.
http://www.arte.tv/guide/fr/047586-000-A/beat-generation?autoplay=1
>>8035840
>anti-semitism is in the news more than anti-catholicism despite Jews having more power
>>8035931
You're totally speaking out of your ass here
>>8035947
m'lady
>>8036532
who doesn't though? the guy is a stud
