What are your opinions on this?
>>7964604
>Ginsberg
>>7964604
ill just preempt this so we can get it out of the way
jew faggot pedo
(I think its fucking brilliant btw)
>>7964628
>fucking brilliant
I bet you're British and have either been pegged or have fantasised over it
DUDE DRUGS AND THE 50S WERE BAD LMAO
>>7964637
they truly are a disgusting excuse of human beings
>>7964653
hey man I was trying to prevent this shit
>>7964657
>woah dude don't e-hate on me
>*adjusts e-bow tie*
It's a great poem if you're not retarded to the point that a man's personal proclivities will hinder your appreciation of his work
>>7964670
What do you think of other beat era work? Do you prefer Burroughs or Kerouac?
>>7964604
>contemplating jazz
as an aspiring jazz musician this hit me hard in the cognitive sector
>>7964645
Were the 50s and 60s actually a good time overall for american populace or n-o.
>>7964604
>What are your opinions on this?
fake and gay
>>7964604
Quite good, Kaadish is better imo. For anyone interested in Ginsberg's poetry, journal's, letters, essays etc., I recommend this book. I just got it and I'm very happy with it.
>>7964844
I find it hard to believe that were not capable of discussing an author because he was a homosexual.
>alcohol and cock and endless balls
I actually really like Howl. I think it's a lot more interesting if you learn all the really obscure references he makes, too.
>>7964604
Contrary to what everybody seems to be saying I loved it until I heard him reciting it, fuck his declamation is like a continuous whimper, and context too removes much of the richness from it
>>7964686
I love Burroughs and he's my favorite of the beat era. Only Kerouac I've read is On the Road, which I found strong if a tad meandering.
>>7965153
big sur is top tier kerouac
>>7964604
it's still an amazing poem
>>7965209
I'll give that one a read next time I'm in the mood for Kerouac
>>7964604
>The Pocket Poets Series
What are the other ones? More Beats?
>>7965430
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Lights_Pocket_Poets_Series
Some Kerouac. It's better to just buy a larger collection this day and age.
>>7964604
There are three people who, if given the chance, that I would put inside a cage and watch die.
1. Allen Ginsberg
2. William S. Burroughs
3. Cormac McCarthy
Worthless fucking hacks.
>>7965858
Burroughs would win.
>>7964604
I think the history surrounding Howl is the most interesting part about Howl. The lawsuit, the Courts; it's all very interesting.
>>7965858
well, two of them are already dead
the beats were fucking shit
>>7965209
I agree, the way he talks about DT and hopelessness is great.
>>7964619
This 2bh
>>7966441
No, not really. I'm not sure what you were expecting from them though.
The Bricklayer’s Lunch Hour
Two bricklayers are setting the walls
of a cellar in a new dug out patch
of dirt behind an old house of wood
with brown gables grown over with ivy
on a shady street in Denver. It is noon
and one of them wanders off. The young
subordinate bricklayer sits idly for
a few minutes after eating a sandwich
and throwing away the paper bag. He
has on dungarees and is bare above
the waist; he has yellow hair and wears
a smudged but still bright red cap
on his head. He sits idly on top
of the wall on a ladder that is leaned
up between his spread thighs, his head
bent down, gazing uninterestedly at
the paper bag on the grass. He draws
his hand across his breast, and then
slowly rubs his knuckles across the
side of his chin, and rocks to and fro
on the wall. A small cat walks to him
along the top of the wall. He picks
it up, takes off his cap, and puts it
over the kitten’s body for a moment.
Meanwhile it is darkening as if to rain
and the wind on top of the trees in the
street comes through almost harshly.
Denver, Summer 1947
Sunflower Sutra is one of my favourite poems of all time.
In the Baggage Room at Greyhound is also very good. I think of it every time I travel.
