What is a book you can recommend that is similar to this?
My diary desu
Infinite Jest
Catcher in the Rye
>>7953266
the mangas?
the fault in our stars
Childhood's End
>>7953266
Gaytard detected
>>7953266
:-)
>>7953533
i would pay one million internets for the gracious soul that delivers me a ebook, of any format, anon please i love you
>>7953266
The Bible. Duh.
>>7953266
You mean awful books?
THE BIBLE
Neon Genesis Evangelion is the pinnacle of humanity's legacy.
A Chinese cartoon about robots is greater than Tolstoi. It's greater than any work by Bach or Shakespeare. It's greater than any Da Vinci and Picasso painting.
It's greater than the Sistine Chapel, the Great Wall of China or Great Pyramid of Giza.
It's even greater than Newton Mechanics or Plato's Philosophy.
So, why is it nor regarded as our higher point? It's still too young. Within 2k years, people shall recognize it. We'll not see it happen, but at least we were able too see its inception.
>>7953266
The manga
>>7954753
I sure hope you're trolling. NGE was good but a lot of it is just mystery combined with out of context references to judeo-christian lore and biology terms.
It would be a lot better if the religious stuff was halfway coherent and the biology stuff were remotely relevant or correct.
>>7954753
>It would be a lot better if the religious stuff was halfway coherent and the biology stuff were remotely relevant or correct.
The greatness about NGE is not in those themes desu
Are people just taking part in counter-counter culture when they say nge is shit? hardly any normies I know like it. just goes over their heads. everyone on here seems to either love it or hate it though.
>>7954813
It's a fucking cartoon, loser.
>>7954834
It's a fucking question, loser.
>>7954808
They're not themes, just jarringly wrong references that made it a worse experience for me.
>>7954843
NGE is not about religion, senpai, they just put that to make it cool.
Psychology is the shit in NGE.
>>7954813
>hardly any normies I know like it
It's one of the most popular anime(s)(?) ever.
It is the anime that even people who don't like anime like. It's shallow as fuck and people go way too hard when they look for deeper meanings.
The "philosophical" stuff was super cringy and it would have been a lot better just to take it out.
I still don't hate it though.
>>7954753
The funny thing is whether you were joking or not, you're entirely right. NGE is the penultimate tale of humanity and what it means to be lost in this experience, and the fact it's so polarizing proves this IMO.
When you understand that a gigantic fucking robot is a metaphor for life, you really question why Shinji doesn't want to pilot (seriously, who would really refuse), and simultaneously it slaps every otaku who loves it in the face and tries to wake them up (they reject life, they choose to not pilot the robot).
Hnngg genre dissection is dope. I hope I can meet Anno one day and shoot the shit, he seems p bro.
>>7954849
I know that and just said so, but okay. I'm just saying NGE could have been cooler, and the fact that I feel that way about it means that I disagree with the poster going on about how it's a huge artistic achievement that will be remembered in 2000 years. That shit's gonna seem cheesy to way too many people.
>>7955013
What about the Kaballah/references to Gnosis and Jewish mysticism didn't you
>>7955020
Enjoy/have a problem with?
Ugh damn you posting from a phone.
>>7955027
Ugh like for God's sake could these phone not?
Could watch/read Code Geass. It's literally the exact story of NGE just changed around a bit. As seen how Code Geass copies a scene straight from NGE.
>>7955048
>how Code Geass copies a scene straight from NGE
Shitloads of anime copied scenes straight from NGE, senpai
>>7954849
Yeah cause the paychology in there is just so groundbreakingly great and unseen. Unsure girl who covers up her fears with sex? Never seen before! Girl who is extroverse actually is hurt inside? Amazing! Protagonist has flaws? Whoa whoa what even is this? Re-vo-lu-tio-na-ry Father is not good father? Oh shit I think I just came in my pants.
I like the show, it's way better than 99% of animes but it is on par with a medium/good novel, nothing more.
>>7954973
Their early work was a little too 'new-wave' for my taste, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own - both commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor.
>>7953266
twilight
>>7955424
But his father is actually good anon. And demanding originality in its shallow sense of "fresh plots" is pleb-tier. All those things you mentioned are inexhaustible sources of inspiration.
>>7955491
I don't demand fresh plots (though i wouldn't call pleb to demand it), I demand that people stop acting like eva invented characters that are deeper than your common shonen's protagonist
>>7955521
Sure but don't commit the plebtastic mistake of confusing a work with its fans
>>7953627
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/foreignfiction/index.php?s=general%20zapped&f_lang=0&f_columns=0&f_ext=0&f_group=1
How new are you?
>>7955013
It already is too cheesy for many people. When our generation moves on from anime/vidya some day, nobody will remember NGE outside a group of retro-enthusiasts.
I'll say what I always say when this thread comes round: nothing, Evangelion is too rooted in its own medium to be comparable to any work of literature.
No writer has ever had the total thoroughgoing contempt for their own audience that Anno does, except maybe Céline and god knows none of his works are anything like NGE.
>>7954798
it's all just cool stuff that has nothing to do with the plot. It's about love and hate and redemption. BIG THEMES, MAN.
>>7954813
Normies' reaction to it is usually one of "not for me to judge, but the action is great while the pacing is bad". But many serious anime fans genuinely can't stand it, even if they grudgingly acknowledge its influence.
>>7955424
You're an idiot. Read a book.
>>7955557
What the fuck is all this shit about cheese? Did anybody actually watch the show critically? It's like... if anything, it's relentlessly anti-cheesy to the point where there's no fun allowed.
>>7955676
Nigger, please, even the opening reeks of 90s so much it makes me want to puke my guts out.
>>7955672
Can you not spot basic sarcasm or something?
>>7955678
>how do I interpret this overblown opening which is totally at odds with the tone of the show and forms an exaggerated pastiche of the tropes favoured by the audience base that the show goes out of its way time and again to insult and confound
hmmmmmmmmm
>>7953266
It's the most similar to Blindsight by Peter Watts.
>>7954973
This 7th grade EvaGeeks meme interpretation has made me actively hate the anime.
>>7955676
it has a fucking penguin mascot in the hope that people will buy toys of it. name one work of art that does anything so cheesy
>>7955708
'Works of art' don't really do that, it's the kind of stupid shit that mass market anime does. Which is why NGE goes along with it (probably at least partly at the insistence of corporate sponsors etc) but ultimately ends up subverting all that and savagely attacking the whole culture.
I'n not even saying it's good - it's very much the half-realised product of one guy trying to break the system from within and ultimately just being kind of childish, using popular tropes to get people to watch his show and buy his merchandise but then sticking a middle finger up at his fans and telling them they're all idiots for liking it.
I'm really surprised it was popular, it's frankly kind of an abortion. But I love it because it's so nuts.
after living in japan for 5 years i can safely say nothing of any intellectual value will ever come from this country.
the closest you get is shit like this; simple stories that touch upon or mention themes or ideas that those few who look outside their own homogeneous society found in western canon or philosophy
>>7955721
Mishima ffs
>>7955726
is he japanese?
>>7955721
Kek. This is why I love this website. You can't get away with saying shit like this irl and not getting called an elitist. I love you anon
>>7955721
retard english conversation amerifat kys
>>7955729
>lived in Japan for 5 years
>can't tell that Mishima is fucking japanese
Yes
>>7955731
because the whole is turning into a big panty-wearing liberal fagtatorship.
>muh african mudhut nignogs are sophisticated!
>fuck saying another country or region or group of people have something wrong, just cop out with ITS CULTURAL DIFFERENCE
fuck you. last time i checked no one thinks working 13 hours a day 6.5 days a week, having stagnant reproduction and production with low levels of happiness, lack of humor, and high suicide rates a good thing
BUT MUH CULTURE
>>7955753
>mishima
>is he japanese?
>yes
Then is he is not intellectually proficient
Do you understand why I asked the question now?
>>7955755
in japan the plebs work long hours
in your shit country the plebs are a racial underclass
i think i know which i like better
>>7955758
I think everybody understands your mental limitations now yes
>>7955767
uh yeah no lol
all people, especially businessmen and the upper elites work 10-18 hours a day. many japanese men spend days at work without coming home and when they do its late at night, barely enough time to bathe shower and sleep.
they dont have times for their family.
if you are familiar with persona 4, its like dojima but often worse.
even my gfs father doesnt come home but maybe twice a week, only at night.
its all because of their mentality of group efforting and working hard. they like to work or at least been seen at working hard (ps a lot of those hours past the 8th or 9th hour is unpaid, voluntary overtime and is a social obligation). people applaud others and brag about how much or how hard they worked. for working so much you think theyd having amazing business and developments, but since the 80s it has not been so. if you are seen taking any time off or resting its viewed negatively or you are lazy. so they are easy prey to parkinsons law, so as not to be seen as lazy or slouching.
this and their inseparability to their traditions makes them high inefficient despite the long man hours. instead of having 1 person with a mop clean a rooms floor in 5 minutes, they have 20-30 people on their hands and knees cleaning with little rags because thats how its always been done (thats hows its been done is the go-to excuse for anything in japan. questioning or simply the question of "why" is unheard of. just do it because thats the way it is).
they are hard headed and are very slow to adapt to new ideas or concepts. anything outside their little bubble of japaneseness is viewed negatively or inferior.
but nah. suicide, family neglection, decling birth rates, depression, stagnation, etc are all perfectly acceptable if you just remember CULTURAL DIFFERENCE ;))))
>>7955782
Haha. You realized how much of a fucking idiot you were and now you are projecting.
If you weren't such a faggot I might feel bad for you
>>7955807
your girlfriend is a pleb from a pleb family
you are a weeaboo faggot in failed recovery
this isn't the board for you
leave
>>7955825
haha good1
>>7955829
>pleb family
you mean a problem that plagues the entire country? ok
>pleb gf, weaboo faggot
So no rebuttals or discussion. Just meaningless insults.
I think the one who needs to leave is you. This might be better suited for you: www.kidzworld.com/forums/books-and-comics
>>7955807
Japan is good. Japan is great.
You bring great shame to our nation.
Great shame I say!
No daughter of proud noodle man will ever marry you.
Shameful dispray!
>>7954973
>penultimate tale of humanity
There's more?
>>7955549
>http://gen.lib.rus.ec/foreignfiction/index.php?s=general%20zapped&f_lang=0&f_columns=0&f_ext=0&f_group=1
I generally just use torrents. thank you anon, you have made me a happy boy.
>>7954973
“My advice to a budding literary critic would be as follows. Learn to distinguish banality. Remember that mediocrity thrives on "ideas." Beware of the modish message. Ask yourself if the symbol you have detected is not your own footprint. Ignore allegories. By all means place the "how" above the "what" but do not let it be confused with the "so what." Rely on the sudden erection of your small dorsal hairs. Do not drag in Freud at this point. All the rest depends on personal talent.”
― Vladimir Nabokov
>>7956092
Nigga, NGE is the epitome of style over substance. There are tons of symbolism that was only added because of aesthetic reasons. Also, it is the form and not the message that most people love about the anime. The film End of Evangelion conveys simple existential dread with a myriad of stylistic techniques that were influenced by Lynch and Jean-Luc Godard. Just don't throw another tantrum because of "muh elitism".
>>7956092
>Ignore allegories.
lol
vlad go back to russia pls
Can a guy sum this thread up for me, thanks?
>>7953266
Life and work of Sigmund Freud desu senpai
>>7956320
>b-but muh weeaboos
>NGE is the greatestest anime of all time
>fuck Japan and everybody that love em
>casual racism
>some guy quoting Vladimir "butterfly-fucker" Nabokov
>>7956327
Thank you,
>>7955844
I can't figure out how to navigate this site. Anything more complicated then 4chan and I'm out. Thanks but no thanks.
>>7956324
not even close
What the fuck? How low has this board sunk?
If you think an anime is serious work of art then go to /a/ or something. I don't believe that anyone who thinks nge is deep has read anything other than YA.
This shouldn't be on a literature board.
It is good as commercial media but that is about it.
>>7956806
2deep4u
cry me a river
to the moon
>>7956836
>>7953627
>one million internets
no work of art has changed me so completely as NGE did
>>7957152
>chinese "hihi oni-chan so cute cutie cutie ahah ihihi ^~^" cartoons are considered works of art
this is why we need a nuclear apocalypse
>>7956806
pleb
>>7957152
Kill yourself.
>>7957159
>>7956806
Read >>7954753
>>7954973
Who's a more /lit/ approved waifu, Rei or Asuka?
>>7957266
You've never read Tolstoy in your whole life, but if you did, then you definitely didn't get it.
Go fuck your waifu pillow and cry about have no one but Anno understand your teenage depression.
>>7957277
ritsuko
>>7957277
>>7957295
>not Misato
Get your shit together.
>something has flaws
>that means it's shit
>hating something because "it could've been better"
No wonder /lit/ is filled with kissless virgins.
>>7957346
I don't hate it for being cheesy in places. I've seen the whole series and End of at least three times. I just disagree with people who think it's a GOAT sublime work of art.
>>7957292
tolstoy is plen mate, classy prose but thematically weak(-ish), now ,listen here, rewatch NGE, and try to understand it this time, it's really not that hard, you basically have to go out of your way to misconstrue it, oh wait you do like tolstoy afterall....
>>7957355
Wow. You're right. I just re-watched the whole series and I can totally see what you mean.
Thanks dude!
>>7957326
>Che belle
Is this one of those "ironic" threads, like where we pretend Adam Sandler movies are "deep"?
What's with Japan and giant monster attacks anyway?
>>7957456
YOU FUCKING FAGGOT.
No it is not, how dare you compare NGE to Adam Sandler. Like holy (not a mispelling; it's religious imagary) shit.
Did you not see>>7954753 and >>7954973
NGE is objectively better than whatever "literature" you like.
It has too much meaning. People like you try to push it all away because you are too afraid of the deep themes.
>>7957442
>>7957470
SAME WITH HOLLYWOOD AND ALIENS
>>7957470
One time they got invaded by towering 6' tall white demons and they're still not over it.
>>7954753
I enjoyed NGE but come on man....
>>7957470
>>7957512
Simple: Japan is worried about the all power Americans with all their big machines and bombs and America is afraid of losing their jobs to Mexicans who work harder and complain less.
>>7953266
It's not surprising that on a board where people can't even understand basic books like Heart of Darkness or Don Quixote that they can't comprehend a cartoon directed at young adults. You guys are pathetic. Yes, it's not the greatest thing since God raped Mary but it is a damn fine piece of fiction still. Learn to understand the things you watch and read, you guys are honestly embarrassing. Jesus Fucking Neo-Christ. I bet you people never even questioned why you must pilot the robot when pappy told you to. Manchildren. Intellectual vermin.
NGE is literally just a critique/perfection of the anime genre
There's no Moby Dick tier depth here folks, stop
>>7957350
I think part of it is that the first time seeing EoE can be such an intense experience that it skews people's perspective of the rest of the series.
>>7957547
Did you not read the heaps of patronizing replies ITT?
Obviously you are just too stupid to get it.
Have fun with your lower level of intellect, you ape .
>all these plebs don't get it
I be you all though K-ON was about girls playing music.
>>7957566
Now somebody do One Piece.NGE is awesome nonetheless
The Fault in Our Stars, Twilight
Any other gigantic fuckaround that some fanbase touts as having value beyond what it really has (which is very little, maybe some pseudo-symbolism and exaggerated emotions that people can empathise with)
I used to like evangelion but you can see how shallow it is after a while, if you really think about it and immserse yourself in better media and literature
An unbelievable amount of fiction is based on philosophical principles. People who haven't read them, or who haven't been able to come to those points themselves, aren't Capable of understanding a large share of quality works. Unfortunately this is how it is, and unfortunately they can't conceive of any depth in any shows because as a result of them being so uncultured are utterly shallow in mind. Not that I'm proclaiming anything as "deep", that too is a term for shallow people.
Honestly some Grant Morrison comics are the closest I've found. Check out Doom Patrol.
>>7957350
That's fair. It took a long time for EoE to grow on me. Even now, I don't think it's GOAT, but I do like it.
I rewatched it during a suicidal spell and I got a lot more out of it than the first time I saw it, to be fair.
>>7953266
To The Lighthouse
>>7957673
fucking weebs
>>7957673
>intentionally vague symbolism
>""""""""""""deep"""""""""""""""
>>7956259
>style over substance
I hate this phrase, it's art, the style is the substance, they're not divorceable.
>>7960501
I wrote this because of his quote that was implying people only enjoy Eva because they enjoy some kind of perceived "deep" message about teenage angst.
>>7960501
Y E S Y E S Y E S, i cringe whenever i see this on /a/ or /tv/
>>7957530
I think you're on to something !...
>>7960521
It's a shame any conversation about eva defaults to arguing over something as banal as whether it's "deep" or not, I mean regardless of the work being discussed I think that's a meaningless question. It's a work of film and yet the discussions people have about it could be had if they'd only read the wikipedia summary, it's not like anybody ever talks about the visual language of it.
Also, this is pretty unrelated but ages ago I heard that DFW used to assign what you'd call "pleb" novels, dime store thrillers and whatnot, to students for analysis. At the time I thought it was just a meme or something but I think he was on to something, beyond death of the artist or whatever about the valuation and reading of a work. But whatever, I like eva but these eva threads are pointless. Would it essentially be a YA novel if you converted it to text? maybe, but it's not text it's film, and it's pretty good film.
p.s. I don't really see the godard influence, I always saw anno as bergman with a penchant for grandiosity from his kaiju-movie fandom.
>>7955807
>>7955755
>>7955721
My Japanese-native ex-gf said all the same stuff about Japan, the overwork, the alcoholism, the family neglect and abuse, the intellectual stagnation and self-consciousness bordering on mental illness. She literally said that Japanese people seem like boring, unsophisticated bumpkins compared to the highly-educated Americans she'd been going to school and working with.
Then she moved back to the home islands to take a job in an office there. People are so strange.
>>7954852
Where the hell do you live and how old are you? I'm 28 and I literally do not know a single person IRL who will sit through more than five minutes of anything that looks like anime or even consider owning or using anything that has anime-style art on it (board games, video games, book covers etc.). Everyone who knows I have stuff like Cowboy Bebop or Studio Ghibli movies in my collection regards it with the same attitude as if I had a collection of human organs in formaldehyde. I've never read manga and I don't even particularly like anime, but there is some good stuff out there.
Basically I don't believe that anime is "normal" but maybe I live in some bubble of anti-anime sentiment.
>>7958726
How to people on /lit/ not recognize obvious jokes? Smh
>>7962065
Kanye West watches anime. Robin Williams watched anime. Christian Bale watches anime. Pharrell watches anime. Leonardo DiCaprio watches anime. It's basically your standard mainstream garbage at this point
>>7962065
>Basically I don't believe that anime is "normal" but maybe I live in some bubble of anti-anime sentiment.
That's called your room. Try losing some weight, you'll be able to pass the door.
>>7954973
>penultimate
Take this retarded basement-boi horseshit back to /a/.
all i got from end of evagelion is that some hegel maste - slave ego complex that i watch on a youtube video
make me think deeps
>>7953375
is this a mega64 joke
>>7955755
You do know that Europe has one of the highest depression rates, do you? Also, American culture is everything that's wrong with our world today. It's unfiltered anti-intellectualism.
>>7962798
There is nowhere that most of the population is intellectually active.
>>7962822
there's a difference between simply not being active, and those not active shitting on the active
>>7962075
>How to people on /lit/ not recognize obvious jokes? Smh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c7b6QjuJac
how do live knowing you will never make anything as perfect as eva?
>>7957566
Ironic or not, here we can see the value of analytic philosophy.
>>7954753
this but unironic
Listen to pic related
What's next - a /lit/ thread devoted to hentai?
>>7955859
Well, you've seen EoE and the rebuilds, haven't you?Seriously, though, Sailor Moon is a better anime than Eva.
>>7955521
>I demand that people stop acting like eva invented characters that are deeper than your common shonen's protagonist
This is my biggest serious criticism of Eva and the common reception of it. The characters are not all that psychologically deep. The way the show uses visual metaphor and structure to present the mental problems it tries to deal with is clever, but this should not be mistaken with having well written characters, which mostly are bags of issues without mental states more deeply exploreable than most decent anime.
>>7965372
Boku no Pico is the pinnacle of humanity's legacy.
A Chinese cartoon about boipussy is greater than Tolstoi. It's greater than any work by Bach or Shakespeare. It's greater than any Da Vinci and Picasso painting.
It's greater than the Sistine Chapel, the Great Wall of China or Great Pyramid of Giza.
It's even greater than Newton Mechanics or Plato's Philosophy.
So, why is it nor regarded as our higher point? It's still too young. Within 2k years, people shall recognize it. We'll not see it happen, but at least we were able too see its inception.
>>7965545
>The characters are not all that psychologically deep
Could any of you then recommend me a novel where the protagonist really is very psychologically deep and has similar existential issues and personality weaknesses as Shinji ? I would greatly appreciate it.
My sincere answer to this question is that you should look into Murakami. Kafka on the Shore is probably closest to what you might be looking for.
Surprised no one's mentioned Narutaru.
>>7954843
>made it a worse experience for me.
>thinking this matters a single iota
how does it feel to be irredeemably plebeian?
>>7953266
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Tributes_to_Other_Fiction_in_Neon_Genesis_Evangelion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Themes_of_Neon_Genesis_Evangelion
>Themes of individuality, consciousness, freedom, choice, and responsibility are heavily relied upon throughout the entire series, particularly through the philosophies of Soren Kierkegaard. Episode 16's title is a reference to Kierkegaard's book, "The Sickness Unto Death". "The sickness unto death" refers to "despair," and in the introduction of this work, Kierkegaard says that, "Even death itself is not 'the sickness unto death.' Not to mention any of the suffering on Earth known as destitution, illness, misery, privations, misfortune, pain, anguish, grief, or regret."[28] The Human Instrumentality Project may be inspired by the philosophy developed by Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel.[29] The title of Episode 4, "The Hedgehog's Dilemma", is a reference to the Hedgehog's dilemma, Arthur Schopenhauer's analogy about the challenges of human intimacy
etc.
>>7953266
A book that is complicated on purpose so it appears more profound than what it actually is?
Finnegan's Wake, I guess.
Catcher in the Rye also captures the mopey-ness very well.
>>7966023
>Narutaru
are you really suprised anon? cmon
What's a book that is similar to Texhnolyze?
>>7966718
-Finnegan's Wake
-complicated
This is the state of /lit/.
Read more you fucking mong.
>>7966718
Fuck you.
Finnegans Wake is completely different.
Also
>'s
>>7966718
If you're not a fucking idiot NGE/EOE is extremely straightforward.
>>7964915
>tfw you unironically relate to this
>>7953533
anime is so trash, they rip off everything from western sources don't they?
>>7968378
No. They did originate mecha, and I'm no anime expert but I'm pretty sure a lot of Studio Ghibli stuff is based on Japanese myth, Miyazaki's original fantasies and the Japanese experience of WW2.
>>7968381
>Japanese experience of WW2.
Exactly>>7968378
Who dropped those bombs.
this one is pretty deep.
>>7965258
Or lack thereof.
>>7967591
>Perpetuating a misspelling Finnegans Wake
>Complaining about the state of the board
You are the cancer.
>>7969991
>Cancer
Hi newfag
>>7965806
Hamlet?
>>7955708
>conflating ikuhara and anno
Evangelion is a deep and richly layered psychoanalysis about what Asukacute does to people.
>>7954973
>genre dissection
>good
![[Over-Time] Blue Blazes - 07 [C242C512].mkv_snapshot_20.48_[2014.12.28_03.48.02].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XBo8ThK.jpg "[Over-Time] Blue Blazes - 07 [C242C512].mkv_snapshot_20.48_[2014.12.28_03.48.02].jpg")
>>7968378
It's a Gainax anime, of course everything is gratitiously derivative.
>>7954813
This place has become a zoo for normalfags to leer at and bully weirdos since Chanology.
>>7967088
Thus Spake Zarathustra
Misogynist filth with no relevance to society? try the bible lol
>>7957673
>can buy shirts and stuff
my sides
>>7976455
how is it similar
>>7973459
I bet he thinks SHAFT are original.
>>7976662
Shinji is misogynistic, but I don't see how the series itself is.
![hqdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sMtg2OX.jpg "hqdefault[1].jpg")
>>7977097
Did you not watch it?
>>7977107
What's the problem? Portraying how a 14 year old boy mostly values women as sexual objects? Showing Asuka using her sexual assets in a manipulative way? I don't get it.
>>7977114
>>7977118
This too?
>>7977131
>oh no boobies
>muh soggy knees!
Still not seeing the part where this says women are subhuman or anything like that.
>>7955549
What do you use to read Epubs?
>>7977142
>Sexualizing the characters unnecessary
>creating the "perfect waifu" stereotype
>not muhsoogyknee
senpai plz
>>7977202
>sexualizing the characters unneessary
It's about a mentally ill 14 year old boy. Do you remember what it was like to be 14?
>creating the "perfect waifu" stereotype
Perhaps you've forgotten what happens to everybody by the end of the show and EoE. The waifu stuff is a trap to mindfuck Otaku. Evangelion certainly didn't invent the anime dreamgirl.
>>7977202
that picture is wholly unrelated to the narrative of the show
>>7977202
Only $55.79? Damn, I might need one of these.
>>7977211
>the end of the show and EoE
>mindfuck
>>7977202
official misato one?
>>7953533
Could you provide a synopsis?
>>7977269
It would be upsetting for someone who had developed an emotional attachment to the characters. That was the intention.
>>7977211
>It's about a mentally ill 14 year old boy. Do you remember what it was like to be 14?
>implying I was ever that much of a faggot
>Evangelion certainly didn't invent the anime dreamgirl.
>Implying there is a better waifu than Rei
R U gay bruh?
>>7977300
I think everyone can relate to the sex-obsession. Not necessarily everything about Shinji.
Also your waifu a shit and Asuka is best girl.
>>7977318
>Also your waifu a shit and Asuka is best girl.
This is the part where I go full autist (like Rei) and rage at you amiright?
OK, here it goes.
no u
ur a fag
fuck u u fag
reeee
i bet u only like her because ur mom neglected u
i bet u like it when grills push u around
u r a fag it
kill urself u gay fuckboi cuckHow'd I do?
>>7977363
Feels nice and comfy, like a waifu thread on /a/.
Rei, on the other hand, is not nice and comfy. She has stupid hair and is obviously frigid. How anyone could consider her best girl is beyond me, but I believe that you should not be jailed for it, but treated and pitied.
>>7968381
>they did originate mecha
Mecha were around since war of the worlds.
That said, the Japanese did transform and develop mecha.
Just about everything is ripped off of someone else anyway. Sage for not lit.
>>7957077
Nigga "one million internets" is like, easily a mudkipz era 4chan meme. it's an old one, but has never been reddit.
>>7977552
>but has never been reddit.
I'm pretty sure I've seen people say "one million internets" in youtube comments in like, 2010.
>>7968108
Honestly, only idiots think it is "extremely straightforward". Anyone decently intelligent will notice how much ambiguity it has and not be deluded into thinking that all their questions can be easily answered.
>>7960600
shut up sparrow
>page 11
>>7953266
Valis by Philip K. Dick
The Divine Invasion by Philip K. Dick
>>7953266
Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke was a major inspiration for Evangelion.
>faggots compare NGE on the same level as other works of flavor-of-the-month animu
holy shit lads I didn't think this was real
>>7981336
B R A Z I L
>>7981336
>NGE fans actually think there are no other animus that compare to it
>>7981789
its not the best, but its much better than whatever flavor-of-the-season bullshit it gets compared to.
Shoujo Kakumei Utena is the undisputed greatest series tho.
>>7981792
>Shoujo Kakumei Utena is the undisputed greatest series tho.
I can't agree with you, simply because I can't consider it superior to its predecessor, which really is the GOAT.
>>7981789
Well, the other recent anime thread was just deleted, so the mods must think only NGE is /lit/worthy. Either that, or this is now a containment thread.
>>7982070
>Shoujo Kakumei Utena
What was its predecessor?
>>7982260
I'm assuming from the pic that he's referring to Sailor Moon, but I'd say that Rose of Versailles is an earlier example of similar themes Utena is known for
>>7977193
e-readers, or calibre
>>7982095
>mods
>>7977097
look at what the 'camera' chooses to frame at any given time
misogyny isnt real though
>>7982356
sailor moon s is its spiritual predecessor (ikuhara directed it), but rose of versailles is its thematic predecessor.
>>7982070
sailor moon is the most influential anime series if all time, but its not the best. i enjoyed seasons 1 and 3 immensely, and it spawned utena, evangelion, mawaru penguindrum, and a thousand other lesser shows, but its not as good as ikuharas masterworks, RoV, or a few others.
>tfw this threas is still alive
Haven't been here for days, good job.
>>7965354
this
>>7954753
>tfw you unironically agree with this post
>>7984169
feels good
Daily reminder that Evangalion is held back by its medium and wont be considered influential due to everyone pre existing ideas of what anime is
>fucking 04/22/16
what's the longest-running /lit/ thread?
>>7984924
Daily reminds that Piss Christ is held back by its medium and won't be considered influential due to everyone's pre existing ideas of what urine is.
>>7956320
Rei a best.
>>7984979
kys
On a slightly unrelated note, Komm süsser Tod is a perfect song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmnCEYtslHc
>>7985052
Agreed senpai. The original video got taken down for some reason but I've lost count of how many times I've heard it.
There was another video on youtube but the sound at the end was slightly different. There are two versions of this song (in english) as far as I know. The other one has a slightly better defined ending. That video got taken down and I'm trying to find it for quite some time now.
>>7984924
It's the exact opposite desu.
It is only considered "deep" because of how "shallow" most anime is.
If it was a book it would be on the same philosophical level as Twilight and no one would pretend otherwise.
>>7985145
That doesn't even make sense. Most books are shallow too. Hell, there is arguably more shallow books than anime, considering the former takes less money to produce and publish.
>>7985182
It makes sense but I just said it wrong.
I mean that the bar for making a deep book is set really high but the bar for anime is not.
Someone who is too slow a runner for the Olympics could still be a top tier runner on a high school track team.
If eva were a book it would never be able to compete with the best books, but as an anime it can become the best in the medium.
>>7985205
That comparison is still bad because anime and books have different strong points and focuses. That's like saying a lot of great books would make terrible anime (they would), but that's because they never were intended to be anything else. Same case for Eva, of course it makes a bad book, but that doesn't mean it isn't a masterpiece in its anime form very well comparable to great books, not on the merit of 'plot' alone but all things altogether.
>>7985213
>anime and books have different strong points and focuses. That's like saying a lot of great books would make terrible anime
>anime form very well comparable to great books, not on the merit of 'plot' alone but all things altogether
I don't even know if this is /lit/ shitposting or /a/ raiding.
>>7985052
Anno's original Japanese lyrics for it are abysmal.
>>7985145
>same philosophical level as Twilight
That's so laughably exaggerated. I agree that Eva isn't too deep or profound compared to books (although I think that's a consequence of a visual medium anyway), but it's definitely much more intelligent than all YA. All you're doing is being painfully contrarian.
>>7985402
yeah they are
>>7985800
>it's definitely much more intelligent than all YA
It's a cartoon about robots, trollio. Head back to /a/.
>>7985800
>>same philosophical level as Twilight
>That's so laughably exaggerated.
You are right: It's far too generous.
When did you last watch the show? This isn't philosophy, it's a conversation between an angsty 12 and their psychiatrist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TISVubPMeM
"Has it taken you this long to realize that, what an idiot!" This pretty much sums it up t b h.
damn I had a blast writing six papers about NGE and queerness, but that doesn't seem like the type of thing you all want on your board
I do think there's a lot to say about the show. Radical representations of embodiment, radical ideas of mourning and melancholy and loss, really interesting queer characters that restrain more than they yield to the audience about their feelings, really interesting takes on sexuality and growing up and subject/identity construction, sick fights
>>7988539
Post that papers anon, it could be interesting
>>7987738
>It's a cartoon about robots
That's the point, it was deconstruction of the mech a genre.
In all seriousness though, why did Rei appear as a ghostly apparition beside Misato's corpse and on the red sea?
>>7988539
Where does one begin with NGE? The series? The manga?
>>7989184
>deconstruction of the mecha genre
This is always said by people who don't watch mecha.
Many thing that eva supposedly 'deconstructs' had already been done
>>7989278
series then the movie.
>>7988539
I hate to be an asshole but
>thinking Kaworu is queer
Only one who can suitably be in that position is Maya
>>7955424
>animes
opinion discarded
>>7988539
Hand it over anon.
>>7968378
Yeah, just like how the most iconic american westerns are 1:1 copies of samurai movies or how hollywood pays extra to not have to credit the anime they rip off in movies like Black Swan, Inception or Edge of Tomorrow.
>>7989801
Movies and cartoons are for plebs, son. This is a literature board.
>>7989184
'Deconstruction' can't turn shit to gold.
>>7988514
>posts shitty dubs
Kek
>>7989903
/a/ please leave. Being elitist about anime is like being elitist about shoes; you look like a tool.
