Who's the American James Joyce? Brazil has one.
Faulkner, no? Either him, or Burroughs.
Faulkner, Pynchon, Barth, Gass, McElroy, take your pick. American lit owns
There isnt one
The crucial question: who is the English Joyce?
Who is the American...
...Tolstoy?
...Proust?
...Dickens?
>>7925558
>american lit
>good
pick 1
faulkner is corncob man, pynchon is juvenile, gass is interesting, barth is good but gimmicky and limited, and mcelroy is a meme
>>7925521
William Gass and Gil Orlovitz.
>>7925571
do you mean interesting as a man would say ir or a woman
>>7925566
They are too busy writing easy genreshit.
@7925571
>>7925575
>Gil Orlovitz
does anyone have an epub of his work?
this fucking Gassposting has to end
he's decent, alright? but he isn't fucking James Joyce
Joshua Cohen
ezra pound
>>7925680
Hes more than decent, and the only reason he isnt revered like joyce is that hes still alive. His reputation will match joyce's after enough time.
>>7925560
Poor Americans.
Can their Literature be saved?
>>7925710
Gene Wolfe
>>7925719
*sigh*
>>7925719
That's a weird way to spell "Wally Walrus"
>>7925521
This isn't possible as 'America' is not as localized as Ireland. You're better off asking who is the Southern James Joyce (Flannery) or the western James Joyce (Annie Proulx) or the mid-Atlantic James Joyce (John Cheever) or the California James Joyce (do they read out there?)
>>7925870
>Proulx
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/07/a-readers-manifesto/302270/
>>7925870
>Southern James Joyce
>O'Connor instead of Faulkner
Yikes
The Brazilian James Joyce is Claude Levi Strauss.
>>7926041
Read Grande Sertao: Veredas m8
>>7925521
Most importantly, who is the Irish James Joyce?
>>7926051
Ron Jeremy
>>7925521
Who is the European DFW?
I haven't read anything by Guimarães Rosa. I'll try to read Sagarana on sunday.
>>7926056
top lmao
>>7926051
Probably Yeats.
>>7926079
Pleb detected.
DFW
>>7926070
>implying one can 'understand' Joyce
>>7925521
You're american mom lol
>>7925564
Malcolm Lowry?
Gaddis, ffs
me, to be honest
>>7926079
Dickens was a hack, I'm not glad he's dead but I'm glad he's gone.
>>7926083
this
>>7925916
That doesn't mane she's the southern Joyce, though.
I feel like she's more the southern Beckett.
>>7925521
William S. Burroughs
>>7925571
>everyone gather round! look at all the memes I know! memes, memes for all! blessed be the memes!
>>7926056
kek
>>7925571
>pynchon is juvenile
oh look at this dude who can't tell thematic content apart from literary technique, fucking top kek
Joseph McElroy
What's the American thing that's going to be an unmitigated disaster? Brazil has one.
>>7934043
/lit/ - Literature
>>7928115
This. Thank you.
Accept no substitues
>>7925521
Brazil has a James Joyce? Well, America has a Brazil.
>>7925521
the Brazilian Tom Hanks
>>7925521
Is writing joycean a generation after Joyce's really anything like being someplace's James Joyce?
>>7934259
Rosa made Portuguese into his bitch, taking it to its limits, expanding it, while writing a deep book.
>>7927803
He didn't just write Finnegans Wake you know. Dubliners is very intelligible.
>>7925571
>faulkner is corncob man
joyce is fart man
Do you see how useless this is?
>>7925704
>His reputation will match joyce's after enough time.
I like him, but it will not.
>>7925870
>the Southern James Joyce (Flannery)
NO
>the western James Joyce (Annie Proulx)
WHAT COMPELLED YOU TO MAKE THAT COMPARISON? THE SHIPPING NEWS? BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN?
>the mid-Atlantic James Joyce (John Cheever)
OMG
>>7926051
Myles Na'Gopaleen
>>7926083
Houellebecq
>>7935373
guess i should actually read that guy huh
>>7925521
Did Guimaraes have any long form work? (Like a Ulysses)
I'm only familiar with his short fiction
Vollmann
>>7935520
Yes, Grande Sertão: Veredas (The Devil to Pay in the Backlands)
gaddis
>>7929764
not in the slightest
>>7928115
Came here to post this
>>7925521
Joyce is the Irish Melville
And even that gives the irishman undue credit.
>>7925680
In the Heart of the Heart of the Country is on the level of Dubliners--one of the best story collections of all time. Gass doesn't have anything to match in quality with Portrait or Ulysses, but in terms of style and scope he is comparable to Joyce. Definitely not as good but a worthy successor.
>>7925870
Brazil isn't as localized as Ireland either, but Guimarães is still fucking G O A T
>>7925687
>If you're reading this on a screen, fuck off. I'll only talk if I'm gripped with both hands.
lol no
>>7934259
Tbqh, brazilian culture was (and on many ways, still is) very backwards back then, and it took a lifetime for things to really catch in here. As far as I know, Rosa was trying to create more modernist stuff but simply wasn't being published due to reactionary publishing houses.
Now, truth be told, the man conquered portuguese like no one did since Camões, and his work is really worth getting into
>>7937597
Kek. real?
>>7937607
First sentence of his "magnum opus" Book of Numbers
>>7931519
>he thinks namecalling is going to eliminate the validity of comparison
Defending Joyce on the bluster of you having bought into a meme instead of on his subversion of form tells me you're not going to understand Joyce either.
>>7937570
Well put, anon.
