Analytic Philosophy or Continental Philosophy?
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>>7874313
is that a hook from some swaggy trap rap? cuz it would be good
>>7874308
This isn't football, we don't have to pick out jerseys.
as one of the few gentiles to break into 20th century philosophy u know foucault went hard as fuck
>>7874308
>Implying there's a reason to study continental philosophy from a non-historical perspective in 2016.
>binary opposition
>>7874329
DON'T MAKE IT WORSE WITH YOUR MEME-TIER TRASH
idk but the Chomsky-Foucault debate is one of the greatest pieces of unintentional art ever created. It perfectly illustrates the impossibility of communication between minds with different reference points by exaggerating what are normally subtle differences to such extremes that they are incapable of even responding to what the other person says.
>implying it's a meaningful distinction
>>7874308
Do people perceive the hands covering the face as being bored or frustrated? I do this all time in my favorite professor's class but I feel as if I'm being misinterpreted. It doesn't help that my essays are getting worse.
>>7874320
a country song
>>7874335
I dunno m8, I don't think Foucault ever exaggerated his points. But you're right about the incompatibility of beliefs. Foucault saw things from the perspective of the greater scheme, Chomsky from the perspective of the man himself.
>>7874335
Do you think the incommensurability is limited to those of extremely different reference points, or can be also applied to any conversation since everyone has their own unique references?
One can only debate this after studying both thoroughly, and even then, a better debate would be whether or not it was even worth debating.
>>7874344
I don't mean Foucault exaggerated his points, but that the differences in what words or concepts refer to, differences present in all comparisons of one mind to another, were hugely exaggerated and put on display in that debate.
I dream one day to have both the erudition and the motherfucking style of Foucault.
OP your question is an absurd one.
>>7874346
The latter, and also within a single mind because a person's thoughts are not all internally consistent and correlated.
>>7874352
if i ever have to debate a mother fucker i'mma do that
>>7874355
Is it? The two traditions are at odds with one another, and I'd like to know which is the preferred philosophical approach on /lit/
>>7874356
How do you deal with the problem? Do you try to communicate anyway despite the fact you will never "get" each other, or do you accept inconsistency and the noncommunicable as necessary facts of living?
African philosophy
>>7874391
Do you mean in a personal way or as a problem for philosophy?
>>7874364
Neither. You'll find that /lit/ is largely populated by uninformed plebs spouting stock phrases of pseudo-intellectual existence. Analytic philosophy, to truly understand it, requires a deep understanding of mathematics and scientific procedure. Continental philosophy requires a background in theory dating back to Kant. If you really want to know the differences and contentions between these two philosophies you need to study for a long time.
>>7874364
No, undergrad scrubs who identify as /analytical/ or /continental/ are at odds with one another. In reality, people pick one or the other for the sake of time.
>>7874397
I genuinely want to know what thenig-nog fig-fog dig-dog xig-xog gig-gog big-bogs (negroes)thought about thinking
>>7874425
A little bit of both I guess. The only philosophical solution I found is a Heideggerian/Kierkegaardian commitment to personal projects.
>>7874308
Thomist Scholasticism is only true patrician choice, everything else is lies and deviilty
>>7874453
Feser pls go
>>7874451
I don't think there is an answer as such, in the sense of what a person should do. People will continue to communicate in the imperfect way they do, and form confused views of the world and themselves, and this is inevitable.
>>7874480
this. just look at how many times people get into arguments on /lit/ only to later reconcile those differences by acknowledging that they were applying different meanings to the terms they were using in their text.
>>7874518
>>7874308
well, decide for yourself
>Cuntinental
or
>Anally dick
>>7874546
fucking source that quote? Who is this bastion of clarity?
What is the best way to get into Foucault from someone who is roughly familiar with the history of philosophy but just breaking grounds into Art History and Literature?
Articles, books, etc
>>7874546
>picture of a woman
>"deconstruction is pretentious"
>immediately check the bottom to see if there's anything about gender theory, feminism, whatever bullshit for which they've re-appropriated the term
>it's there in heaps
hahahahaha, fuckin, these people
it's just so easy to read their intentions
i don't care what side she's on, if she's talking about it, she's retarded and should not be allowed to publish
>>7874718
I don't think that was actually something she said but it bashes social justice warriors like three sentences in.
Hope that "strategic scanning" works out for you though.
>>7874546
Good shit.
"Lacan, Derrida and Foucault are the perfect prophets for the weak, anxious academic personality, trapped in verbal formulas and perennially defeated by circumstances. They offer a self-exculpating cosmic explanation for the normal professorial state of resentment, alienation, dithering passivity and inaction." - C. P.
>>7874352
Imagine that in a choke collar, full leathers, and a throbbing erection. That is our idol.
>>7874726
>Hope that "strategic scanning" works out for you though.
It works as long as you know *when* and how to take something seriously. For example, that Aristotle quote above is a rather blatant lie and there's no point in reading or thinking about it.
I actually read and thought briefly about the text of that supposed Camille Paglia quote - *after* I scanned it for buzzwords and made that post, because it seemed it might actually have something to say. It didn't, but I'm better off knowing now that it's a trick text than finding it out later.
>it bashes social justice warriors
hope that strategic scanning of my posts works
>i don't care what side she's on
>>7874754
Bit of a moron, are you not?
>>7874758
tu quoque
>>7874546
Did Paglia really say that? Either way, it sounds just like her.
>>7874708
She's said similar things in fact, but that one is just a meme image.
>>7874791
She's endorsing Trump now...
>>7874822
oh
http://www.salon.com/topic/camille_paglia/
>>7874546
>people will think this quote is genuine
>>7874953
>bernie sanders voters will give Donald Trump the presidency by sabotaging Clinton
It's like divine cuckery
>>7875659
What does Anna Karenina have to do with Continental Philosophy?
what a shitshow
>>7875659
You could make a similar straw-man caricature of astrophysics vs astrology.
>>7874444
quadquads of truth
>>7874335
That's not art but it is cool
>>7874308
nonsense
Discipline and Punish and This Is Not a Pipe
>>7876693
people seem to forget continental philosophy studies relative cultural ideologies and how they operate in social systems while physics studies impartial nature on a mass scale. you can't really compare the two.
>>7876693
What a fucking clown.
>>7876693
Is that an actual quote by Dawkins? He completely misconstrues what Continental Philosophy is.
>>7876757
>continental philosophy studies relative cultural ideologies
>>7875041
>implying Paglia doesn't hold those exact views
>>7876774
How's that Down Syndrome working out for you, Mae?
>>7874335
No, it illustrates the impossibility of a genius (Chomsky) communicating with a drooling imbecile (Foucault).
>>7876883
was foucault actually defending the concept of tabula rasa? or was he simply being skeptical to chomsky's statements (when he stated that there is an inherent human nature) -- statements that Chomsky didn't have any sound evidence to cite in order to back himself up?
we know human beings are not born tabula rasa due to their innate ability to learn a language. still, what concepts we create with that innate ability vary. as such, as far as human nature goes, we can only speculate. but, we do know we have some basic building blocks hard-wired into us at birth.
continentals are fedoras
>>7876775
Jeez, I apologize for berating continental philosophy. I'm reading some right now, and it's actually incredible. I feel enlightened by not just my own intelligence, but the author's; what a relief to find such an enlightened scholar that values meaning, history and dialectic above phony fedora logic! I wish dad would understand this and stop being so problematic, I'm not going to church ffs i told you
>>7876929
Science is awesome. I mean besides those two world war; and those nuclear weapons; and those technological inventions that are polluting the planet beyond repair so we'll all probably suffocate in smog or be broiled alive. Not to mention all those wonderful medicines made to keep the kids docile as they are being indoctrinated in school, or the fact that it doesn't matter what kind of direction we are headed just so long as we are progressing forward (just because we might be going the wrong way is no reason to turn around). Good thing we got all those vaccinations for young babies (now we're approaching 8-billion people on one small planet, growing each and every year).
I'm not saying science should be disbanded by these statements. Science has also offered us many wonderful things. However, there are a lot of problems that have been made b science. As Krishnamurti said, we think that by teaching people to be smart we will have solved all the world's problems. But intelligent people also contribute greatly to the world's misery (maybe even more so than dumb ones). Continental philosophy is the yang to science's yin. Both are necessary and needed.
threadly reminder that no one in academic philosophy takes this dichotomy very seriously
>>7876953
No one in academic philosophy takes continental philosophy seriously.
