I just bought this. What am I up to?
Some people say it's better than GR. What do you think?
i think it's better than GR
>>7861677
Read it and find out.
It's not your granddad's literature
>>7861701
kek
read it and tell us what you think anon
It's less 'out there' and more mature than GR, more in line with literary traditional, almost conventional, but punctuated by trademark Pynchon surrealism.
>>7861701
Actually I think of it as something my grandad might have liked.
>>7861677
Very, very different from GR. Less angry, more bouyant.
Highly recommend reading the whole thing aloud, you'll catch a lot more jokes that way.
A bring some Kleenex for the end. Tears will be shed.
>>7861677
M & D is one of the only books to make me shed tears.
>>7861714
GR made me shed tears
Serious Question:
Does anyone know the typography the publisher used for the cover?
I thought it was part of the IM Fell fonts or the Goudy styles, but the ampersand doesn't seem to fit.
I know I'm crazy. I just love the aesthetics.
I honestly go back and forth between whether GR or M&D is my favorite novel ever written. M&D is, once you get over the archaic language hump, significantly easier to read and more straightforward than GR, but potentially even deeper, and kind of more perfectly Pynchonian in subject matter (you'll see what I mean).
>>7861713
speaking of Kleenex there's a porn model called Dixon Mason. She does bondage and I think gangbangs.
>>7861677
It's the best novel in existence. My girlfriend didn't like it, which has made it easier for me to keep my pimp hand strong.
>>7861677
It's much, much better than Gravity's Rainbow.
>>7861677
nah
Do you who prefer M&D to GR not particularly like GR itself? It's hard for me to imagine someone who really loves GR preferring M&D over it.
I don't think anything he wrote after this was very good, but, my god, it's a strange feeling being alive at the same time a writer on par with the very best (Cervantes, Tolstoy, Proust) was alive. GR is his glorious madman's prophecy, but Mason & Dixon is sheer literary beauty. A book more important than ever: a place to escape during these dark, dark times.
I love Son & Xon, and I love GR too. I think M&D is better.
>>7861833
meming this hard
Equal to GR. Not quite as good as V.
>>7861749
I do not know but I believe this question has come up on /lit/ before and I bet if you find the right search terms you can locate the answer in the archives.
>>7861833
>Cervantes,
le quixotic meme
>Tolstoy,
le noble peasant meme
>Proust
le senses are integrated meme
>>7861857
kill yourself plz
>>7861857
I seriously hope you self-harm
>>7861851
>I do not know but I believe this question has come up on /lit/ before
I'm the guy who asked it before. I've never found the answer. I wonder if I called the publisher, they'd still have that info laying around somewhere?
>>7861857
stop
>>7861877
Ah, sorry to hear. I bet somebody at the publisher can answer your question - good luck trying to get them on the phone!
Works well as a doorstopper.
>>7861677
A long and difficult book that is equal parts tedious and genius. One of the most satisfying novels I've ever read and my favourite by Pynch (I've also read TCoL49, V., Bleeding Edge and Inherent Vice). I haven't been able to finish it yet because it's way too fucking dense for me as a non-native english speaker. I'm about 300 pages in. But it's ultimately very entertaining and at times it's fucking hilarious like that scene with the big ass cheese.
>>7861677
I have a first edition first print, wanna see it?
>>7861677
Having read all of his books except Against the Day, I'd call it his third best behind GR and V. which are both greater artistic achievements.
>>7863348
>>7863389
sorry about the images being uploaded sideways, don't know why this is I don't understand technology. Here's one without the jacket.
>>7863348
>>7863389
>>7863396
3/4
There's actually the jacket and then a sort of dust cover for the actual jacket. Not sure if this is common to all hardcover editions. I only have this and my original picador softcover which is the one I actually read.
>>7863389
>>7863396
>>7863400
4/4
Last one and proof.
I got this one real cheap or at least I believe relatively cheap on ebay a while ago so I'm not sure if it is actually difficult to find, but it's probably my favourite book so it's more of a sentimental value. There's a signed one right now on ebay going for like $20,000. I'm so fucking jealous.
(aint engineering like a square no way)
I’m doped right now
man vineland is good!
if you agree with bloom ...
would you please.. get out of here
this pynchon right here
is awfully crazy, better annotate it
i fear government
and corporations i’m politically jaded
hash and red cap while i read
but american sublime is all i need
finish with v, read bleeding edge,
mason and dixon time to read again
man i love pynchon
i wanna read pynchon for the rest of my life
put proust aside, i’m done with james joyce
put on some miles, plasticman is so choice,
i love watching cartoons made for young boys
so pack me a bowl, let’s read on
sucked in by the prose, whats goin on
i’m slothrop in london, head of achtung
got a big dong, no inamorata anon
always on the run, the zone ain’t no fun
you never did, the kenosha kid
your words aren’t wasted, when you write by waste and,
just read ‘last song’ and all i can say is
this pynchon right here
is awfully crazy, better annotate it
i fear government
and corporations i’m politically jaded
hash and red cap while i read
but dense pomo plots are all need
finish ATD, read inherent vice,
skim slow learner, back to slothrop’s plight
man i love pynchon
i can’t tell you what i learned from pomo,
but i could recite a plot line or two
you know of course they hold some truths, like:
when a conditioned cock detected bombs
and when the mechanical duck turned its poop on
or when mondaugen crashed at foppl's too long
or stencil had a one letter clue to go on
read against the day like 'what the hell is goin on?'
hard to complain when the chums are so damn fun
words aren’t wasted, when you mail by waste and,
rereading V and all i can say is ...
( und so weiter . . . )
Will someone post that reading Pynchon chart?
>>7863390
V. is fucking magnificent. it changed my life when I first read it like, I remember thinking "how the fuck do you write like this?". I reread it as soon as I finished it and I've being planing on a third one this summer.
>>7863434
GR and V changed my life too, reading them in 12th grade.
>>7863431
it's in that other chart thread right now. Anyway official reading order is:
TCoL49/V. >>> GR/M&D >>> BE/IV >>> ATD >>> VL/SL (only for obsessive completists)
>>7863431
pls this
I started The Crying of Lot 49 literally today and I'm 76 pages in and it's my first Pynchon and I love it so far.
>>7863443
>it's in that other chart thread right now.
Can't find it. Could you please post the link?
>>7861848
let's not even pretend v. is close to gr in terms of quality
>>7863419
Kek
