>there are people who spend their entire lifes reading the same book (the bible/koran) over and over again and spend decades argueing about the same lines over and over again, listening people read them over and over again, seeking hidden meanings in it
Holy fuck
>>7824083
They're interesting though. And that's what lit comes down to really, being a spastic obsessive about lines of text.
t. non religious spurdnon
>>7824085
bro, I just read the bible and the koran and they're seem to be masterpieces of literature, but I'm not gonna kill myself over those books.
>>7824092
>the koran
>masterpiece of literature
kill urself mane
>>7824083
>being this much of a pleb
lmao @ ur life fampai just off yourself desu
>>7824092
>masterpieces of literature
this has to be bait
And there are people who (will) spend their entire lives on this website arguing about the same thing over and over again
>>7825251
literally every holy book is a treasure of literary worth
>>7825251
>people actually think the bible isn't a masterpiece of literature.
>>7825336
>people actually think that logically inconsistent literature with decent prose is considered a masterpiece
The old testament is pretty sweet for the first two books at least, I liked where some broad bamboozles God and diffuses his wrath by taking a piece of flint and lopping off some dudes foreskin
>>7825350
>logically inconsistent
WEW
>>7825361
GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness.
GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn't created until the fourth day.
GE 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created.
GE 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created.
GE 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before man was created.
GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds were created.
GE 1:24-27 Animals were created before man was created.
GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before animals were created.
GE 1:26 Man is to have dominion over fish, birds, cattle, and all wild animals, yet--
GE 2:15-17 It is wrong to be able to tell good from evil, right from wrong.
GE 1:26-27 Man and woman were created at the same time.
GE 2:7, 21-22 Man was created first, woman sometime later.
GE 1:28 God encourages reproduction.
LE 12:1-8 God requires purification rites following childbirth which, in effect, makes childbirth a sin. (Note: The period for purification following the birth of a daughter is twice that for a son.)
GE 1:31 God was pleased with his creation.
GE 6:5-6 God was not pleased with his creation.
(Note: That God should be displeased is inconsistent with the concept of omniscience as well as with the fact that God allegedly does not change his mind: NU 23:19-20, 1SA 15:29, JA 1:17.)
GE 2:4, 4:26, 12:8, 22:14-16, 26:25 God was already known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) much earlier than the time of Moses.
EX 6:2-3 God was first known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) at the time of the Egyptian Bondage, during the life of Moses.
GE 2:17 Adam was to die the very day that he ate the forbidden fruit.
GE 5:5 Adam lived 930 years.
GE 2:15-17, 3:4-6 It is wrong to want to be able to tell good from evil.
HE 5:13-14 It is immature to be unable to tell good from evil.
GE 4:4-5 God prefers Abel's offering and has no regard for Cain's.
2CH 19:7, AC 10:34, RO 2:11 God shows no partiality. He treats all alike.
>>7825361
GE 4:9 God asks Cain where his brother Able is.
PR 15:3, JE 16:17, 23:24-25, HE 4:13 God is everywhere. He sees everything. Nothing is hidden from his view.
GE 4:15, DT 32:19-27, IS 34:8 God is a vengeful god.
EX 15:3, IS 42:13, HE 12:29 God is a warrior. God is a consuming fire.
EX 20:5, 34:14, DT 4:24, 5:9, 6:15, 29:20, 32:21 God is a jealous god.
LE 26:7-8, NU 31:17-18, DT 20:16-17, JS 10:40, JG 14:19, EZ 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing.
NU 25:3-4, DT 6:15, 9:7-8, 29:20, 32:21, PS 7:11, 78:49, JE 4:8, 17:4, 32:30-31, ZP 2:2 God is angry. His anger is sometimes fierce.
2SA 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord; ... he heard my voice; ... The earth trembled and quaked, ... because he was angry. Smoke came from his nostrils. Consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
EZ 6:12, NA 1:2, 6 God is jealous and furious. He reserves wrath for, and takes revenge on, his enemies. "... who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? His fury is poured out like fire, and rocks are thrown down by him."
2CO 13:11, 14, 1JN 4:8, 16 God is love.
GA 5:22-23 The fruit of the Spirit of God is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.
GE 4:16 Cain went away (or out) from the presence of the Lord.
JE 23:23-24 A man cannot hide from God. God fills heaven and earth.
GE 6:4 There were Nephilim (giants) before the Flood.
GE 7:21 All creatures other than Noah and his clan were annihilated by the Flood.
NU 13:33 There were Nephilim after the Flood.
GE 6:6. EX 32:14, NU 14:20, 1SA 15:35, 2SA 24:16 God does change his mind.
NU 23:19-20, 1SA 15:29, JA 1:17 God does not change his mind.
GE 6:19-22, 7:8-9, 7:14-16 Two of each kind are to be taken, and are taken, aboard Noah's Ark.
GE 7:2-5 Seven pairs of some kinds are to be taken, and are taken, aboard the Ark.
GE 7:1 Noah was righteous.
JB 1:1,8, JB 2:3 Job was righteous.
LK 1:6 Zechariah and Elizabeth were righteous.
JA 5:16 Some men are righteous, (which makes their prayers effective).
1JN 3:6-9 Christians become righteous (or else they are not really Christians).
RO 3:10, 3:23, 1JN 1:8-10 No one was or is righteous.
GE 7:7 Noah and his clan enter the Ark.
GE 7:13 They enter the Ark (again?).
GE 11:7-9 God sows discord.
PR 6:16-19 God hates anyone who sows discord.
GE 11:9 At Babel, the Lord confused the language of the whole world.
1CO 14:33 Paul says that God is not the author of confusion.
GE 11:12 Arpachshad [Arphaxad] was the father of Shelah.
LK 3:35-36 Cainan was the father of Shelah. Arpachshad was the grandfather of Shelah.
GE 12:4, AC 7:4 Abram was 75 when he left Haran. This was after Terah died. Thus, Terah could have been no more than 145 when he died; or Abram was only 75 years old after he had lived 135 years.
Do you want me to keep posting this? I haven't even finished Genesis
>>7825361
Come on man, you don't have to be a fedora atheist to see that it has inconsistent logic.
Most people who are super into the Bible and are religious say that it is not supposed to be taken literally.
>>7825350
>giving a shit about logical consistency in literature
>>7825361
>>7825336
>>7824092
>>7825375
Then what does the Bible offer us if you agree that it isn't? The prose is fairly decent, but you shouldn't care about just the prose.
The only redeeming part of the Bible is that it offers solace and philosophical security to some people. But how can you even credible believe in it if it isn't even logically consistent
>>7825379
>thinking I actually typed all that shit by hearth in 1 minute
Yeah okay
>>7825350
>>7825383
>Then what does the Bible offer us?
What does being 'logically consistent' have to do with that?
>The only redeeming part of the Bible is that it offers solace and philosophical security
Shallow and unoriginal opinion tbqh. And you could have just linked to the page, spergo.
>>7825401
Do you actually have any arguments to make, or are you just going to continue shitposting? Tell me what does the Bible offer us then, besides a logically inconsistent message, solace and philosophical security?
>>7824083
>there are people who read books once as disposable entertainment and never actually stop to absorb the text
>>7825418
>thinks that your only 2 options are either 1) reading a book once as disposable entertainment, or 2) spend your entire life reading the same book over and over again and spend decades argueing about the same lines over and over again
I wouldn't want to do it myself but I'm glad someone is doing it. It allows for depth of interpretation.
>>7825458
This is true. But it also saddens me when I think about all the intellectual effort that was put into interpreting these books for all those centuries.
>>7825229
>dude the founding text of a 1400 year old worldwide civilization is trash lmao
>>7825518
Because it's either trash or a masterpiece, right?
>>7824083
*dibs bedora* :DD
>>7825350
>criticizing prose of a translation
>taking everything in the bible literally
>criticizing a work for being illogical
wew lad. how do you read any modern literature. I bet you think metamorphosis sucks too because its illogical for a man to turn into an insect.
And since your arguments could only belong to somebody with no literary understanding, what the fuck you doing on lit. Post your religious contrarianism on a different board that isn't well read enough to call you out. your out of your league here.
>>7825529
a holy book carrying the weight of a 1400 year old worldwide civilization pretty much makes it a masterpiece yes
>>7825470
I guess I see your point, but if it was put into philosophy or something it still wouldn't have come up with any answers.
>>7825550
>>your
holy lol you are just so new it's blinding
>>7825546
>reducing a century old worldwide civilization to the Bible
It had an enormous impact, but let's not overstate our case here
>>7825229
>>7825251
>>7825470
>>7825410
>>7825383
Plebs. Plebs everywhere.
Take it from the jewiest of Jews, renowned DFW hater, Harold Bloom. Who would have every reason to trash the Quran, but instead praises it:
>“But the Koran cannot be ignored, as it is a work of genius we badly need to study.”
>“Audacity, a crucial characteristic of Muhammad in every way, marks The Koran’s achievement of a literary effect unlike any other.”
As for the Bible, if you don't realize it's the fountain pool of Western literature, you're hopeless.
>>7825550
interesting how you take the bait of one of the oldest lit memes, yet fail to address the criticism
>>7825598
>fountain pool of Western literature
you're arguing about its literary influence, not its literary merit
>tfw some people ACTUALLY subvocalize everything
>EVERY SINGLE SHITPOST
Holy fuck I would go insane tb h
>>7825598
You should stop reading bloom and pick up the koran and just read it. It's utter garbage. It's just Bible fan fiction with more violence.
>>7825385
Is that the tranny porn guy?
>>7826019
No. All white people look da same.
>decide to read the bibble for the first time in a while
>read some job
>get on my phone and go to facebook
>the very first thing I see is an advert for a bible reading guide
I know advertising is getting crazy but I don't even know anymore. Please help me make sense of this situation.
>>7824083
>Newton was one of these people.
>Devoted less than 10% of his time to math/science and spent the rest looking for Discovery Channel-style Sekrit hermenootical Bible Codez
>>7827962
salsa on this por favor
>>7827963
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Isaac_Newton
>>7827968
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton%27s_occult_studies#2060
>>7827968
So even back then scientists were doing shitty pop-philosophy?
>>7825687
What the fuck am I looking at?
Also what are you referencing? I'm one of those people
>>7828053
sorry about the namefaggotry
self sage
