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>be in high school English class
>be reading Nineteen Eighty-Four together
>every kid pauses at the end of the line rather at the end of the sentence
>mfw

What stories do my fellow anons have?
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why wojack do dis?
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>>7801370
>>be in high school English class
>>be reading Shakespeare together
>>every kid pauses at the end of the line rather at the end of the sentence
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Are you talking about the last line. Like, "He... Loved.... Big.... Brother?"
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>Be in high school English class
>Last term before exams so class plan is pretty lax
>Had to write some poem for a national competition
>Don't want to do it
>Fuck it I'll describe my fat, red-faced teacher as a failed hot air balloon that won't take off but still gets bigger
>Hand it in and get on with my revision
>She reads out some poems to get motivate fuckers who don't want to write a poem
>She starts reading mine
>Oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck
>Gets to the bit about the balloon's redness
>She stops. She realises.
>Her face goes redder
>Stares me out
>Oh shit oh shit oh shit where is my God-ot now?
>Rest of class realise something is happening
>Stifled sniggers about her face going red over her reading about her face going red
>She can't do shit about my creative endeavour
>Serves her right for thinking Carol Ann Duffy is a good poet
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>high school
>reading out loud

why?
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>>7801486
We went to block scheduling back in the day, 4 classes a day alternating days. The teachers had to fill up classtime somehow.

>Doing grammar in Honors English sophomore year.
>Participles or some shit
>This is clearly work for plebs, I already read more than the teacher
>I decide to take a nap
>feel someone hit me on my head hard
>turn to the kid sitting next to me at my table and punch him in the shoulder hard
>the entire class is staring
>apparently my 55 year old female teacher had been the one to strike me
>everyone involved felt awkward, even though this was in 1999 that wouldnt have flown so nothing was said by anyone

also

>she felt I didnt take her class seriously (this is true, she dedicated more than half the year to grammar)
>she refused to recommend me for AP
>I went to my guidance counselor and told her I wanted to challenge myself
>got placed in AP anyways.
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>11th grade english class
>have to give some sort of presentation on Of Mice and Men
>end up rapping in front of the class
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>>7801370
>be me in freshman year
>decide to show teacher how patrician I am
>start every short answer question on the exam with "Well Sarah,"(her first name)
>mfw she sends me an email asking if it was a joke or an affront towards her
>mfw I say it was because I was stressed
>mfw she's still a fat bitch
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>>7801396
>be in high school
>600 students
>not a single nigger, asian, or hispanic

was the best time of my life
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>>7801540
share the rap pls
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Am I still banned?
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>>7801370
I haven't been in high school in seven years, where do you people come from?
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>>7801566
>be in hs
>500 students
>4 Niggers
>3 criminals
>all failures at school

Basically confirmed for 500 minds that niggers get into fights, assault teachers, and sell drugs to middle schoolers. Their parents were shit too.
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>>7801569
>Well my name's Lennie Smalls and I'm here to say
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>>7801583
>>7801566
>>>/pol/
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>>7801583
Homeschool your kids and let them go to school for extracurricular activities.
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>>7801370
>Reading Of Mice and Men
>taking turns reading it
>one guy gets to the stable buck part
>"the stable buck is a ni....Uhh"
>clearly flustered, the one black guy in the class doesn't seem to really notice
>teacher interrupts
>"okay whenever we reach that word, we'll say "blahblahblah!""
>guy reading smiles and continues on.
>talk to black classmate afterwards
>"I don't really care. I would've wanted him to say the word than turn it into a childish remark"
>he speaks with the teacher the next day
>she told him "we can't say that word because it'll hurt his feelings"
>he was more offended by that than "nigger"
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>>7801370
>reading Inherit The Wind
>guy reading as the prosecuted pronounces Rache as Rach-EEEEE and not rache without the L.
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>tfw spent entire grade 11 english with a hardon from a qt korean girl that would rest her elbow on my thigh throughout the entire class

we read some good shit, too bad i couldnt concentrate
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>>7801370
>be in high school English class
.be reading Macbeth
>teacher insists it's about intersectional feminism
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>>7801673
>today we will be talking about sexism in the Odyssey
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>>7801370

>in english class
>start novel study
>read novel in 2 days
>do fuck all for next two months
>some kids didn't even finish it
>I still had to show up for class
>low-key bragging about my accomplishments from highschool
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>In sophomore English class
>teach is giving a lesson on Shakespeare
>describes him as (I fuck you not) the "greatest English writer until J.K. Rowling"
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>>7801688
Thats true though. English writers are shit
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College class, not high school, but this thread needs some content

>be freshman, 2nd semester (college)
>in the honors program
>have to take an honors class called Roots of Western Culture
>the thrust of the class is reading pairs, one from ancient/old literature and a companion piece from modern lit.
>ohboy.bmp
>read Odyssey and Penelopiad (Atwood)
>spend literally half the semester discussing how Odysseus' killing of the maids is sexist.

JUST
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>>7801370
>be in high school English class
>hate it
>sleep
>teachers hate me
>do badly in English all the way through school

Is there any way to make teaching English engaging? I don't think I ever had a class I liked.
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>>7801680
>tfw write eloquent-ass overanalytical essays on The Outsiders and 1984 and get A+ every time.

i read moby-dick when i was 14 and I never looked back.
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>>7801370
>> Someone asks if the Art of War is French
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>>7801583
wew you'rere' dumb lol
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Did not think I would relate to a thread on here as much as I am now
>be in 12th grade English class
>assignment was to read a book of your choice and give a speech on said book
>read The Sun Also Rises
>it's really good
>decide it would be funny to wing the entire presentation
>talk about how nothing happens the entire book
>Just a bunch of guys fishing and drinking
>a few people laugh uncontrollably, others just stare blankly at me
>teacher doesn't know what to do
Thinking back I have no idea why I did that. I winged an entire presentation on The Grapes of Wrath in 10th grade too but it turned out terribly because I didn't even read it. The cringiest experiences I'll ever have will be my high school experiences.
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>>7801370
high school english class was the shit
>tfw pointing out holes in the prompts' logic and cracking jokes about them
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>>7801370
Everyones got one like this
>one of the cool kids gets selected to read a few pages in highschool
>can literally barely fucking read, can't get more than two words out at a time, mispronounce everything and don't know a single word over 5 letters long
>sat there wondering if the kid is legit retarded or something

How do some people make it to adult life like this?
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>>7801459
>have to go see poets reading their poetry for GCSE english
>this bitch Carol Ann Duffy is doing a reading
>of the poem about iceskating
>in questions some random girl in the audience puts up her hand and says "the imagery of the skating really reminded me of a baby skating around and moving in the womb, is it meant to be like that?"
>to witch the old crow replied "I had never thought of it that way, but I guess you are right".

YOU CANNOT DIVORCE FROM AUTHORIAL INTENTION IN POETRY.
Otherwise you are just writing down generic shit and letting other people apply their own experiences, it's just a Rorschach test with words.
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>>7801952
i remember this. The teacher actually roasted him pretty heavily, made him read one of his retarded essays out to the class.

there was also a kid who would just look up synonyms in word and think he was improving his essay by replacing the words.
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>>7801392
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>be in Grade 12 English class
>sitting at my desk before class starts
>be reading The Master and Margarita
>teacher walks over to me
>stares down her nose at me
>"Is that The Master and Margarita you're reading?"
>"Yes," I reply
>she then proceeds to tell me about how she had to read it for a postgraduate course on 20th century Russian literature
>heavily insinuates that I'm too dumb to understand what's going on in the book
>I just have a bored "Mmhmm?" look on my face
>bell rings, she finishes gloating and goes back to her desk
>I ignore her for the rest of the period and just read my book the entire class
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>>7801962
I went to Poetry Live last year and she wouldn't stop talking about how deep and enlightening that analysis was. Some other faux-deep boys made an attempt to rival the skating in the womb thing but she wasn't very receptive of any of them. I can't stand Carol Ann Duffy.
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>people have trouble to pronounce th and say it with a t
Come on people, we are at university...
Additionally, it's 2016 people
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>>7801540
I did the same thing except I did a modern version of Hamlet's "to be or not to be" speech over Biggie Small's "The What." I wish i had it saved it was the only time i've ever had fun doing an assignment
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>>7802205
>tfw non-Anglo
>will never be able to pronounce 'th'
Life is suffering
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>>7801671
Damn...
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>>7801962
>letting other people apply their own experiences
What's wrong with that?
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>teacher talking about a poet, I think it was Neruda
>"... and he was mad in love with her, but the love was p-l-a-t-o-n-i-c."
>somebody raises hand
>"Mrs. teacher, what does it mean when love's platonic?"
>"Well it means that the love is not returned, it's one-sided."
>I raise hand
>"Excuse me but isn't that a little bit off? I'm pretty convinced that 'platonic' describes a non-sensual love, without a bodily lust."
>"No, it means that the love is one-sided," and she continues the lesson
>I stare out of the window for the rest of the class

Weird, she was actually lovely and well-educated.

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Another one, although it's from a history class.
>manlet teacher, around 40
>he's not too stern and doesn't shun fun in lesson, people like him
>always ridicules you with facial expressions during verbal exams
>very calm, talks slowly and his intonation is always low
>we hit something about Protestantism in one of the lessons
>he starts ranting and being salty while leading a monologue about the Catholics and Protestants
>he's lecturing but the way he handles the material is somehow getting very defensive and dense
>"... and I don't simply understand people who say that they don't need to go to church to practice their faith and to be with their God. It doesn't make sense and it's evasive and lazy and degenerate."
>raise hand
>"But what of a man, stranded in a desert? Is he too far from a church for God to hear him? How would..."
>"Well that's not the same. I'm talking about people who think that they don't need to go to church in order to find God."
>realize he's a hysterical Catholic
>feel the void reach up to me
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>>7802205
>people have trouble to pronounce ř and say "Nechtěj po Řekovi aby ti řek', kolik je v Řecku řek"
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>>7801396
>be in biggest highschool in a 100.000 people city
>1800 students
>not a fucking nigger
I'm still baffled because in middle school there was plenty of them
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>>7802313
i've heard people calling onesided love platonic love too.
Is there a name for onesided love?
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>>7802399
>Is there a name for onesided love?
Cuckoldry
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>Sitting in English class
>Taught by good-looking single English teacher pushing 30 who gave me unconscious boners
>Surprisingly old-fashioned
>One day she strikes up a conversation about the school's new policy of forbidding students to kiss in the corridors, as loads of the 16-18 year olds were frequently and passionately doing so
>Discussion goes on
>Somewhat mixed opinion in the class, which gets her frustrated
>She loses her cool: "Look, if there's two children kissing the faces off one another, how does that make me feel?!"
>Awkward silence
>I just calmly say "Jealous"
>Whole class remains quiet for a moment; a few looks exchanged, before everyone bursts into laughter
>She joins in, thankfully

Dodged a bullet, thankfully. I had balls back then.

Just a shame that being the class clown doesn't pay off as much as you'd think.
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>>7802399

UNREQUITED LOVE.

Thank me later.
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>>7802399
rape
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>>7802405
I think being the class clown, if it comes from an excess of intellect rather than a defect, leads to even greater isolation. I thought No Longer Human did a great job portraying that and that was one of my favorite features of the book.
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>>7802411
You should consider that it's not a matter of intelligence but rather a social phenomenon.
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>>7802405
>Just a shame that being the class clown doesn't pay off as much as you'd think.
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>>7802415
What makes you say that? My understanding is essentially that someone becomes a class clown for one of two reasons. The first is because they're too stupid to succeed in the class or the social situation of the class, so they have to reject it and make a joke of it as a way to deceive themselves and others into thinking they are not failing or are capable of succeeding. On the other hand, one might be too intelligent or perceptive and therefore, see how ridiculous the class and social situation are and consequently be forced to reject both and mock them as an attempt to convince themselves and others of their superiority. It could be explained well in terms of the will to power. That's always how I understood the development of class clowns, I would be interested in hearing an alternate theory.
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>be in high school English class
>be 14, late bloomer
>working through poetry anthology, discussing Seamus Heaney's Death of a Naturalist as a class
>"what do you think the poem is about, anon?"
>"p-puberty"
>voice cracks
>whole class laughs

For a year or two this was always so stressful at school. Sitting in class having not spoken for a while dreading that I might be called upon and that my voice would betray me.
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>freshman
>read dickens and tell teacher i hate it
>end up liking it
>read odyssey and Greek mythology
>read Hugo and stendhal
>Russian and Spanish poetry thrown in
>mfw I like it all
I cant remember all we read right now, but it was the only good English class I had in high school where we actually read good books and discussed them
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>>7802219
Just put your tongue between your teeth nigga
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>read 1984 on my own time in grade 11
>a year latter in english 12, allowed to pick a book from a list to read and then do work for
>1984 is on the list
>pick 1984
>don't need to reread it
>next semester, take lit 12 online so i can finish in a week and have a spare block
>allowed to pick a book from a list to read and then do work for
>pick 1984 again
>hand in all the same work from english 12

high school was awesome and easy

i donno how people fuck it up

i remember being sat next to this white trash kid at the far side of the class because we were always talking with people or some bullshit. one day we had some in class essay, like 5 paragraphs on some prompt. after like an hour he had only two paragraphs and he was all fidgety and worried looking. i just felt bad, like how the fuck are you unable to bullshit 300 words on king lear or whatever?

jokes on me though, he owns a legal grow up and i leech off my parents for a degree that wont mean shit
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>first day of class
>teacher asks us to introduce ourselves by stating our name, our favorite book, and our favorite band
>90% of the class says the great gatsby and the beatles
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>>7802488
tfw when I said Lolita
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>>7801660
that's actually a pretty respectable move by the black dude
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>>7801370
>Studying Coleridge in extension English in 11th grade
>Talk about Jacobinism in the first lesson and a bunch of other historical contextual stuff
>Anon ur a nerd lunch money lmao at lunch
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I've already posted this story on a picture plank but anyway

>be frenchfag
>it's the year after the baccalauréat
>I go to a literature preparatory school ("hypokhâgne")
>it's like a very selective GI boot camp for becoming a patrician
>only english classes are easy because I speak english

>teacher is pregnant woman
>her classes are boring and she's seen as
>she singles me out because she knows I don't care about her class
>because her baby is due, she brings some of her old books to give away to make room in her house
>I find pic related in the pile and take it home
>begin reading it
>it's a great experience
>pregnant teacher goes away to have her baby and qt replacement teacher arrives
>she is about 25, short hair and those eyes that glow and sparkle when she smiles
>everything is better and it's April-May

>we have to do presentations on books
>I've been reading Ulysses for seven months now, not even through with it but decide to present it anyway
>justify my choice to the class: even if I was done reading it it wouldn't matter, I couldn't present Ulysses thoroughly in twenty minutes even if I was Our Lord Bloom
>say the book is a monument and I didn't understand shit
>say it's a chore and a joy to read
>make class laugh when describing a passage where I tought they got drunk in a pub and I understood nothing for 250+ pages
>teacher asks lots of question, you can tell she is interested
>mfw I did it all for this qt short haired replacement teacher
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>be me
>taking HS classics class
>one of those 'sexism in the odyssey' teachers
>he's actually a pretty cool guy besides that
>one day, arrive in class
>notice he has the projector turned on, he's loading a video
>it better fucking not be John Green
>it's John green's crash course world literature!
>die inside
>class is 2/3 girls
>they all become delighted about the video
>they take all the beanbags in the classroom, they look like they're ready to have a fun time
>start the video
>he makes a cringeworthy James Joyce reference, literally no one else understands it
>all the girls laugh at his stupid jokes, the guys just sit up the back, uncaring
>green literally starts going on about the patriarchy
>start thinking that I must be in some kind of dream, this is all too stupid to be real
>only one girl not taking any of John green's bullshit, the weird shy depressed qt3.14
>develop debilitating oneitis just because this girl didn't like john green
>she's not remotely interested in me
>video ends
>teacher realises John Green is a huge cuck and he made a mistake in showing us the video
>says he certainly doesn't agree with everything in the video
>guy next to me starts ranting about 'tumblr feminism'
>kind of agreeing with what he's saying, none of the girls even care to listen to him
This was the most painfully 4chan thing that ever happened in high school
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>>7802548
Yeah sometimes I too get turned on by what a girl does or says or thinks. I'm not even trolling. Like a girl speaking russian and being classy about it, or having developped her own political or philosophical ideas literally diverts my whole blood flow to the boner.
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>>7802548
>high school
>bean bags
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>>7802557
I can't tell if you're being serious but the depressing thing is that I did totally fall for a girl just because she didn't like John Green
She also seemed really lonely, like she had friends but didn't really have any meaningful connections with them, I guess I related to that.
Anyway I started to seriously impress my own ideals onto her while barely knowing her, not a fucking good move, I talked to her a bit and realised she was nothing like the idealised version of her I'd imagined

Mein gott anon, are there any good books about this feel?
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>>7802557
>literally diverts my whole blood flow to the boner.
I like this phrase
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>>7802566
Yeah it was a weird fucking classroom, teachers were into having art and shit everywhere, because it was also a history room we literally got away with having a Nazi flag on the wall
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>>7802534
et donc t'as baisé ou pas
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>>7802576
>we literally got away with having a Nazi flag on the wall

lmao
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>>7802615
To be fair it was just a paper cutout of a Nazi flag, and we had a USSR one as well
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>>7802583
nègre j'ai déjà du mal à regarder les gens dans les yeux
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>English Class
>reading The Crucible
>having to pretend that McCarthy was wrong and wasn't actually proven right years later
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>>7802557

>having developped her own political or philosophical ideas

Girls never do this, idiot.

A sufficiently attractive guy could convert even the most dedicated Communist girl to Nationalism.
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>>7802679
You are discussing the play, not the historical event that it's loosely based on.
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>>7802679

Thank God for the Venona Papers.

He was literally right.
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>>7802687
right
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>>7802688
what?
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>>7801673
We did 'The Gothic' and studied Macbeth, Wuthering Heights, and The Bloody Chamber.
I don't think you could talk more about feminism more if you took literal women's studies.
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>>7802205
How the fuck can people not pronounce th?
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Kind of sad but its been a while since I've seen a thread this good. Nice job boys.
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>>7802707

i did this too, we only really talked about feminism for carter though desu
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>>7802741
Fuck. I had two women as teachers, so we spent half of WH talking about Heathcliff as a fucking patriarchy oppressed woman (Gilbert and Gubar can go fuck themselves), and spent so much time on Lady Macbeth as a woman fighting masculine control that we barely mentioned, y'know, the stuff we actually needed to fucking know for the exam.

Carter's fair enough though.
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>>7802755

the madwoman in the attic is a good book, but yeah sounds like you got fucked over a bit with the rest, we mainly stuck to non-theory type reading though with some postcolonial stuff for heathcliff and psychological stuff for macbeth

my teacher was a woman too, a very good teacher tbf
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>>7802775
Women as teachers are alright, but their obsession (in my experience) with women damages the books they're meant to be teaching. With every single book I studied throughout secondary school, we had to look at how it depicted women, and we all had to tut and tssk about how 'terribly misogynistic' it all was - to the detriment of the actual texts.
With books written hundreds of years ago, it is literally irrelevant how they depict women, unless it's notably different to how everyone else was doing it at the time. I don't understand how women particularly are so bad at understanding the views of others cultures/time periods.
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>>7801459
>God-ot
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>>7802817

i think this is likely due to what has been researched in the past 40 or so years in universities, there's been a lot of feminist criticism pumped out (understandably in many cases) and thus most english teachers have had this as a very prominent topic in their studies

people are always drawn in by what personally affects them too, i do wonder what it's like if you're a woman or black or whatever reading a classic text and it has terribly written women for instance or some noble savage trope

i wouldn't say depiction of women is irrelevant, it can provide interesting insights to cultural attitudes of a historical period - but it can get very repetitive and inane very quickly unless, as you say, it goes against the grain or is obviously a central theme of the book

having said all this i only had one teacher where she seemed to want to inject a feminist discussion into every book
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>>7802860
Mhhm. I see why they do it, I just wish they'd be a little smarter and get over it. Talking about women in regard to Twelfth Night is valuable, because they're portrayed unusually for culture of the time. Talking about them in Macbeth past the small amount needed for the Lady Macbeth character is needless pandering. I have no inherent dislike in talking about women in literature, but its been done to death for me.

It doesn't help there's always the hidden feminist agenda behind it. It's always "look how poor and oppressed women were!" never "look how this character's position as a woman gives another interpretation to their actions", so it doesn't even feel like its analysing literature on an intellectual level.
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>>7801671
Beta. You should of told her to get her elbow off you leg so you could concentrate
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School made me hate reading, it was only a few YA books that got me started reading again a few years after graduating.
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>>7801752
I took a guitar class in grade 10 with no experience and was supposed to memorize a piece and perform on stage but I didnt so i just strummed random notes in a solo and it sounded terrible. No one laughed and i got a soft applause
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>>7802408
I see unreciprocated used too, and that English teacher is dumb as fuck and her ass needs firing if it hasn't been already
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>>7801962

I can understand the stupidity of retroactively changing what you originally 'meant' but what's wrong with this:

>Otherwise you are just writing down generic shit and letting other people apply their own experiences
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>>7802723
people who pronounce the th can't pronounce "u" and "r" like the french do
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>"anon, I need a definition of postmodernism."
>"good luck with that."
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>>7803095
I can't form the "r" sound correctly, but I didn't even know it was possible to fuck up "u". Enunciation is weird.
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>>7802723
It's pretty difficult for non-native English speakers.
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>>7801370
>In high school
>have stupid english teacher named Mrs. Wallace
>she makes us listen to her reading her dumb "funny" short stories that have us and our classmates as characters
>we have to make a "class pet", basically draw a fictional animal and her other classes did it too
>she fucking writes short stories about our animals interacting with one another, and makes us listen to her reading them in class
>10th grade honors english, wtf

Anyways I made it my goal to make her life Hell.
>we have to read Animal Farm
>during classroom discussion i talk about how it relates to 1984, the rise of bolshevism, etc
>Mrs. Wallace says she never read 1984
>i ask "How can you be an English teacher if you've never read 1984?"
>she gets sad
>during classroom discussion i interrupt her to correct her pronunciation of "Tsar"
>i can see her confidence disappearing, day by day

skip forward to the end of the year
>she hates me now, and me and all my friends argue with her on every thing she says to show our contempt
>class party to celebrate end of year
Earlier she said she was keeping the drawings so she could remember us forever.
>adrenaline pumping
>bell rings
>i grab the drawings off the wall and run like crazy
>during the summer we made copies of them, and filmed ourselves wearing ski masks "torturing" the drawings. we waterboarded the copies, burned them, ripped them up, etc
>sent her the video

It was on YouTube for a while but our friend who filmed it removed it when he went on his mission (he's a Mormon).

My little sister had Mrs. Wallace's class five years after me. Mrs. Wallace still remembers me with a kind of repressed mix between fear and hatred.
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>>7803564
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
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>>7803569
I wish I could prove it to you Anon, but it happened 7 years ago (my little sister is a senior in hs now) and I don't have a shred of proof anywhere.
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>be American
>guy asks how Hitler came to power in Germany if he was from Australia

Thank fuck it has been a decade since high school.
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>>7802687
>Girls never develop their own political or philosophical ideas
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>>7803598
Why are americans so bad at geography?
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>>7803564
You sound like an insufferably autistic edgelord prick. I hope you were bullied mercilessly

>inb4 "nah bro i was one of the cool kids xddddd"
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>junior or senior year of high school
>have to write a book report
>decide to write one on Hamlet
>write a few pages, kind of half-assed it
>think it will be fine because my teacher is an idiot and is generally impressed with anything I write
>paper comes back to me
>she gave me a C
>wrote the comment "you plagiarized some of this"
>wut
>never been more confused in my life; I wrote everything myself, in my own words
>tell mom what happened and she decides we need to have a talk with the teacher
>we both go in to talk to the teacher and ask her why she thought I'd plagiarized the report
>"well, I thought some of the sentences sounded familiar, so I typed the first sentence into Google"
>we tell her to show us
>she goes to her computer, brings up Google, types in the entire first sentence of my report, and hits Search
>"see, it turned up 60,000 results, that's 60,000 exact matches"
>mfw
>I'm completely speechless, but thankfully mom puts on her Mom Voice and convinces the teacher to rescind the accusation of plagiarism and give me an A

My only consolation is that I helped to get her fired. I eventually complained to the principal about her behavior, which was incredibly juvenile. She was always talking about students behind their backs or even insulting them in front of the whole class. She was one of those middle-aged women who still act like teenagers. On top of that, she was just plain bad at English. I once saw a straight-D student, someone who just barely managed to graduate, correct her grammar. She pronounced faux as "foo". Let this be a lesson to you all: FUND EDUCATION. When you pay your teachers shit, all the good ones leave and you end up with assholes like this.
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>>7803609
I wasn't bullied, and I wasn't particularly popular either. And yeah I was an argumentative prick with lots of my English and history teachers, but never with the ones who knew what they were talking about or who actually were teaching.
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>tfw moved from new england and went to high school in the deep south

It was honestly one of the most miserable periods of my life. It was like time traveling back to the 19th century in terms of culture. There was one of those protestant evangelical mega churches down the street from our HS and most of the staff and student body were associated with it and would hold these bullshit prayers before class. I'm not even a fedora or edgelord either.
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>>7803629
She didn't even do anything to warrant your autistic fury, given what you've written. So what if she did somewhat cringey icebreakers to try and engage the class?

Sounds /r9k/ as fuck
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>>7803641
She did that every class, and it would take up the first half of every class. She was trying to be friends with us all, instead of a teacher. In fact in class she'd tell us sad stories about how in high school she never had any friends, and popular kids would pretend to be her friend as a joke. So I think she was trying to become a popular teacher or something (it was her first year teaching when I had her).
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>tfw privately educated
I studied English in a class of maybe 8 people under this teacher Alaisdair McPherson who was great. He got me really interested in how symbolism and stuff works. My strongest memory of that class was an occasion when he told us to read a play, so I did, but no-one else had finished. I read it again and again and again. When I asked if anyone else was done, someone accused me of having skim-read it, so I went through it again, mentally shouting every single word but they still hadn't finished.
After I left that college his wife tutored me in the same subject, she helped me get more interested in writing, although I think I scared her a bit when I tried to write a reference to a rape in one of my stories (I'd been watching the Shawshank Redemption). Then I had some Oxford University student tutor me, I remember discussing Larkin with her in her little flat. Then there was Philip, a tall, balding, clearly autistic man who taught out of a rented attic where there were two tables, one we used as a shared desk, the other was completely covered in little toys like you'd get out of a kinder egg. I think he collected them. He'd spend most of the lessons complaining about things like women from his church who'd refused to go for coffee with him, or that his neighbours were insisting that he mow his lawn. I still see him waiting for the train home in the evenings, always alone. I try to talk to him sometimes but he becomes uncomfortable very quickly and I don't think he really remembers who I am.
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>>7803662
That doesn't help your case, retard
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>12th Grade English class
>teacher gets all of her content for the class by googling the title of the book we are reading plus "questions."
>PowerPoints copied and pasted from Wikipedia
>class only gives half of a fuck because it's senior year, and sometimes it's kind of fun. Teacher is a nice old lady too.
>start a Facebook chat to coordinate ugly sweater day before Christmas break.
>keep using the group to keep in touch, because teacher's assignment descriptions never make sense
>lots of students start complaining because class devolves further and further
>one student bothers to find the website she uses to get her study questions and posts them every week
>students start bragging about stupid shit they can get away with
>one kid starts writing messages to the teacher saying, "I know you're not reading this" in all of his essays.
>teacher doesn't notice until second to last month
>pretty funny stuff
>one week before graduation, some kid that stayed utterly silent through the whole school year speaks up
>"I just can't believe all of you. This Facebook group that you all have is unbelievable. You all should be so ashamed of yourselves. Our teacher does not deserve this
>next Monday, kid goes to the library and prints off the entirety of the Facebook chat group, which at this point is about 50 pages of complaints at least
>shows whole thing to teacher
>breaks her heart
>last week of school, she changes the curriculum to focus entirely on the dangers of cyberbullying.
>be me, in grad school
>that fucker still hasn't finished his BA
>see him in the building every once in a while
>still give him death stares

I still can't believe what that kid did to her. She was a wonderful lady, just not really capable of teaching her class anymore. She retired the year after my class graduated. The kid looked so smug after he showed her everything too, like tattling on everyone somehow made him a great person.
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>>7802672
essaye la levrette pédé
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>>7803680
Well on the bright side, she kind of rolled with it. She showed the video we sent her to her to the classes she had in the years after us, until my friend removed it from YouTube. And my little sister said that students mostly like her now, so she's gotten better at teaching and handling classes. I'm sure most teachers have it pretty rough when they start, but they get better at managing smart asses like me.
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>>7803564
Creten
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>be a sophmore in highschool
>going to read Julius Caesar in class
>teacher says that we're going to read a "translation" in "modern English" because the "Old English" (i shit you not he actually called it old english) is "almost impossible to read for us"
>I end up just reading the actual play while everyone else reads the "translation" out loud
>I finish two days before the rest of class because they don't even understand the dumbed-down version they're reading
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>>7802205
I had a similar experience, but with Spanish. I was in an intermediate Spanish class in college, and there were people there pronouncing LL as the English L and J as the English J. "Me llamo Juan" became "Me lamo Jew-an".

I have no idea how any of those people got into that class.
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>>7802571
>I talked to her a bit and realised she was nothing like the idealised version of her I'd imagined

>Mein gott anon, are there any good books about this feel?

the great gatsby
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>>7802723
It's a very unique phoneme in English. English is the only West Germanic language to contain it I believe (though Frisian might have it because it's in the Anglo-Frisian branch). There are some Norse languages, most notably Icelandic (also the only germanic language to preserve the differentiation in writing between voiced and voiceless "th"). In short, it's one of the few English phonemes that understandably give people a lot of trouble if they're not used to it. It's a really really really strange dental fricative that most people aren't used to. Sort of like how English speakers can have a hard time pronouncing Uvular consonants in other languages, since we're not used to consonances that far back in the mouth, as the farthest back we really use are velar consonants.
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>>7802679
>>7802694
>>7801675
>>7801566
>>7801396
what the fuck happened to /lit/. This used to be the one not dumb as fuck board on this site. I guess it went down the same road that /mu/ did years before it
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>>7801556
made me lol desu
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>>7803779
What? You think having a class on sexism in The Odyssey is a good idea?

Hang on, I think I know a place you'd enjoy more.

>>>/rbooks/
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>>7803779
dude 4chan is under new management now, the jap wants more hits, even if they come from plebby shitlords
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>>7803726
I'm having similar experiences in my Greek and Latin classes in University. The people in my Latin class (it's Intermediate latin 2, which means that we read excerpts of real latin written by Classical and Medieval authors and not simplified student versions). There are understandably people in there who don't take the pronunciation super seriously, opting not to trill the Rs, pronouncing "th" as in English instead of as an aspirated "t", etc. but there are still some people in there that I swear didn't pay attention at all in the 101 class. We're supposed to pronounce the language in the Classical pronunciation, but there's one person who almost always pronounces it as church latin (for example with "Caesar" she pronounces it like "Chey-zar" rather than the classical "Kai-sar".) And then there's this one kid who just pronounces everything super slowly and has awkward spacing between every fucking syllable and he always puts stress on the first syllable even when it's not appropriate at all. It's even worse in Greek. It's only me and only one other person, but for the love of God she can not read anything in this language. It's not just that she mispronounces things, it's that she literally forgets what some of the letters are supposed to represent. She'll pronounce alpha as both "ei" and "ai" and "ah" in the same sentence and she takes so long just to get through a single sentence. It's so bad.
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>>7803802
>not understanding the huge field of literary criticism that is cultural criticism which incorporates sub fields such as gender and feminist criticism
>reddit maymay

you weren't an English major, were you. Pleb
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>>7801370

>despite going to a cookie cutter white suburban elementary school, I grew up as a child in section 8 housing developments
>get harassed by blacks often; develop racist feelings
>In the sixth grade, I'm asked to read a passage written about Martin Luther Kind Jr.
>Tell the teacher "No."

Also

>For most of my public schooling I was the only student who could read out loud with out a stammer or having to sound out words
>Probably the last kid to lose my virginity
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>>7803838
>Im a pleb because I wasn't an English major
lol get a load of this loser!

Notwithstanding that I majored in Biology and am currently in med school, I can guarantee I'm more well read, have a better understanding of literary criticism, and am a better writer than you are.


Enjoy your english degree you useless feminist prick maybe you'll find yourself an ugly booktuber girl to fuck you once a month and talk to you about Vonnegut.
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>>7803838
>gender and feminist criticism
>important, relevant, interesting, or anything of the sort
ay lamo
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>>7803874
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>>7803838
>Gender and feminist criticism
Gender and feminist criticism for literature is honestly the dumbest thing i've ever heard of. Sadly it's a thing now as academia becomes filled with tumblrinas and SJWs
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>>7803884
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>>7803852
absolutely BTFO

RIP anon
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>>7803889
>It's not about actual virtue or ability, it's about signaling your holiness with ideological gang signs.

Fuck.
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>>7803603
qt3:14
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>>7802399
kataomoi
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>Be in 10th grade English class.
>Be watching Genocide, for some reason or other.
>Period ends.
>Look around at my fellow classmates.
>Everyone has the most somber look on their face, like they had just been exposed to the harshness of reality for the first time.
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>grow up in New Jersey
>assigned at least one book a year on the Holocaust
>always coupled with some documentary
wew lad
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>>7803852
>I'm better than you at everything because I don't read feminist critique!!!

Sure you are, son, sure you are. Enjoy your medical degree that I'm absolutely 100% sure you aren't making up and enjoy thinking that you understand literature in any sort of profound way without atleast knowing a little bit about each field of literary criticism.
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>>7804071
>I understand literature better than you because I can appreciate a feminist viewpoint and you can't!
lol dude! epic
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>>7804080
but that's true though, if you can understand more interpretations and view points on literature in an objective manner then you do understand literature better. That's how it works, anon. If you know how to appreciate lit by something like new criticism but you don't know anything about marxist, feminist, gender, new historic, reader's response, psychoanalytic criticism, et cetera then can you say that you are nearly as well read as someone else who can? No, you can't.
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>>7803852
>>7803857
>>7803887
>>7803906
>>7803963
>>7804020
>>7804080
this board used to be well read and could actual debate things with alternate view points without just memeposting. What the fuck happened. Granted, I haven't been on this board for a couple of years, but jesus, it's like an entirely different place.
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>1st grade
>reading Dr Seuss
>obese feminist professor in glasses huffs and puffs around the cabinet in an agitated way
>the eggs, she says, are an allegory to the struggle of womyn, and the ham refers to the intersection of fatphobia and misogyny that plagues society even in the current year..
>I bravely stand up against this white genocide
>taken to court, accused of rape, castrated, my whole family murdered by the sjw cabal
and this, reddit, is a true story of leftism infecting academia
edit: thanks for the gold haha I didn't expect this to blow up wow
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>>7803617
yes I see now
I will FUND EDUCATION in my city state
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>>7804111
Okay, anon. Tell me why you find gender and feminist criticism on literature important and/or valuable and maybe we can have a discussion with you. I'll debate differing interesting viewpoints exhaustively if I feel like they actually have some degree of merit, and our not just the viewpoints of ignorant people.
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>>7804126
since i am not so dumb as to waste my time on value judgement shit throws, I will only say that the reason why you are hostile to this field of human activity and not any other is because you think evil feminist kikes snagged away your chance at an arranged marriage with a virgin aryan maiden
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>>7801370
>be in junior year english class in a catholic school
>teacher tries to alleviate our anxiety about reading our work out loud by sharing her own work first
>it's some kind of erotic diary entry in which she describes how good it feels to be fucked

one phrase that i still remember clear as day is "the warmth of his hard dick between my thighs"
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>>7804100
I wrote various criticisms of the twentieth centuries best pomo works as an eight grader with a limited understanding of literature

if you don't read and consider my criticisms (which are just as valid as anyone else) you aren't as well read as I am
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>>7804140
typical thought process of a cucked english major
>you disagree with me so youre a closet racist who wishes he could go back to the "good old days"
nothing to see here boys
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>>7804064
This.
Every year of highschool.
By the end of it my entire graduating class had become so desensitized to anything relating to WWII that we just didn't care any more.
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>>7804151
>Every year of highschool.
lol we started in fourth grade and read something about le 6 million every year since
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>>7804126
I shouldn't have to explain to you why an entire field of literary criticism should not just be totally ignored by a board dedicated to the discussion of literature. They are incredibly large fields of literary discourse that both expand upon already established interpretations of literature and also offer new ways of critically evaluating and understanding it. The very fact that you would even consider to throw such interpretations and view points under the rug without at least attempting to understand them at an objective level shows that you don't really understand how literary criticism works in the first place, it's not about agreeing with every view point, it's about allowing the doors to be open to discuss things from as many views as possible in order to understand works from a holistic perspective. It's incredibly ironic that you would describe entire fields of literary interpretation dominated predominately by those who have spent their entire academic career studying literature to be "ignorant" while you yourself have demonstrated no understanding of even basic cultural criticism. Go ahead and give me one reason why we shouldn't debate literature while keeping in mind gender and feminist critique without using terms like "SJW", "tumblerina", "cuck", and any other fedora-tier terms.

pro-tip: "i don't like/agree with it" is not a valid argument
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>>7804149
>cuck
I swear like 80% of this website doesn't actually know what the term cuckold actually means.
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>>7804149
>he invokes reddit reactionary buzzwords when faced with the idea of literary analysis of gender (ha what a dumb non issue right its just gender)
>he thinks its not obvious which times he wants to go back to
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>>7804140
I actually have a virgin aryan maiden as a girlfriend right now anon. Your argument is invalid. There are many girls out there who like dominant men who don't put up with this new feminism garbage, believe it or not.
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>>7804165
So much typed, but so little said.
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>reading "Indian Camp" by Hemingway
>teacher tells us to write a sequel or ending of the story
>write new ending about how son and dad are actually serial killers which rape the indian woman and kill the baby
>read it out loud in next lesson
>teacher looks at me like I'm completely crazy
>gives me a B- for good effort anyway

I wish I still had that story, but I can't find it any more.
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>>7804192
>here are many girls out there who like dominant men who don't put up with this new feminism garbage,
anon is naturally weak and low test so he'd rather ignore this fact and keep chasing "I'm so different from other girls" tumblrinas whom aren't actually attracted to guys like that either
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>>7804149
You should get it through your thick skull that the argument isn't "you have bigoted opinions, therefore you're wrong", its "you're wrong, and a bigot"
The idea of discarding the entirety of a field that deals with a cultural phenomenon that permeates every single life is so inane it should not even be discussed, and that idea obviously requires some heavy ideological brainwashing to be conceived in the first place
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>>7802571
Aw shit, you did a Gatsby.
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>>7804126
not the anon you were replying to, but
regardless of your personal feelings towards women, a character's gender *is* a relevant aspect of their whole and worth examining to further understand them, the actions inflicted upon them, and the actions they themselves make, just as it is worthwhile to consider a character's position as a man for the same reasons. though i do believe gender/feminist critique at times is, as has been pointed out by previous anons, extremely banal (look how oppressed this woman was! how sad! how sexist!), the endeavor itself should not be discarded. any professor that makes analyzing gender in a novel their utmost priority is not a good professor unless the name of their class explicitly says that's the aspect of the book they will analyze--like having a class named "gender studies in (book title here)".

but--
gender, along with every single aspect of life--from an author/character's socioeconomic status, to the country a character/author lives in, to the time a character/author makes their appearance, is an important lens to watch literature (and really, all the arts) from. pretending that gender has no bearing whatsoever in literature in pretty dishonest, especially considering the massive amount of expectations that exist for both men and women. trying to analyze how these expectations shape a work is not a mere attempt to garner sympathy for women, but an understandable pursuit. some people doing this analysis in an inappropriate manner does not eliminate any chance of gender/feminist critique bringing forth significant insights into many great works
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>>7804204
You can look at any book through a feminist lens, that doesnt mean it wont be a waste of time/energy more often than not.
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>>7804201
im sorry kid, but your pol jpeg collection didn't make you a high test alpha male
come back when you can outlift me
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>>7801688
Capital T truth. Nameoneyoucant.
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>>7804251
>>7801691
Lad, you tried your b8 once and no one bit. Leave it.
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>>7804199
gr8 counter argument m8 8/8
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>>7804244
>le lifting beta
Ive been boxing since I was 9 years old. I go to the gym occasionally but unlike you Im not so insecure as to measure my masculinity by how much I can bench press.

Whether or not you outlift me I would literally knock your bitch ass out.

Come back when youre not a 5'9 protein drinking liftlet, you fucking loser
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>>7804273
B O D I E D
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>>7804273
so that means you've been boxing for 3 years? wow
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>>7801570
I mean yeah probably
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>grade 12 english
>teacher likes me because i'm the only one who seems to give a shit about literature
>just went through my camus and sartre phase
>reading nietzche and rand
>consider myself a 'right wing anarchist'
>assigned 1984 and BNW
>write a paper contrasting freedom and order
>portray order as an absolute evil and outline how everyone is essentially self interested
>cite camus, rand, and nietzsche in the paper
(EEEEEEUUGHHHHHKKK)
>teacher gives me a 75, my lowest mark of the year and no longer comes and talks to me after class

felt like shit, wish I could erase it from my memory. alternatively:

>grade 12 creative writing class
>all my stories are bad imitations of existentialist novels
>the protagonist is always a nameless businessman who has chance encounters with people at french cafes or german pubs where he discusses literature (basically whatever i was reading at the time) and existentialism
>my teacher thinks they are genius

still pretty cringey, but less so i guess
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>>7804359
I feel this right with you my man. I still love nietzsche though
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>>7802980
>No one laughed
that changed today kek
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>>7804222
not the person you replied to but thanks for that, interesting stuff. any exemplary gender-based criticism you'd recommend?
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>>7803823
m8y boy, I'm studying Latin in Greek in Britain and it is hell, truly hell. Our schooling system barely teaches grammar, and when it is forced to it is largely unsystematic, so everyone is confused about what subordinate clauses are or even in one case verbs (AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA). As to pronunciation the tutors have explicitly stated that they don't mind if we use reconstructed or are a bit sloppy, emphasis is placed at the end usually (aids memorisation), but people are forever asking how they should pronounce things and that's just in Latin. The struggles in Greek are ludicrous, people can't learn the alphabet, people freak the fuck out at pronunciation and go so, so slowly. They'll lose the pronunciation of a word in two sentences. They seem to forget the idea of inflection.
And then the requests for clarifications come.
I truly pity my tutors.
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>>7804359
>grade 12

You were too young to be reading all of that shit. When you're a teenager you soak up any old shit that sounds intelligent and brand it upon yourself as means of looking better. Despite some of those works being 'entry-tier' it takes an adult to discern them properly. That's why your teacher gave you low marks, in other words you were just being pretentious.
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>>7804489
Jesus Christ, that sounds awful. Greek and Latin have some of the most intense and complicated Grammar of any Indo-European languages. Greek verb conjugations are a nightmare, I understand grammar and verb systems and even I think it's intimidating, I can't imagine a non-grammar intensive course in either language. Thankfully my teacher for both classes believe that the grammar approach is fundamental for study, so most of the people in my class atleast understand that verbs are conjugated and have more or less the 5 declensions in Latin memorized.
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>>7803564
Damn I wish I was in Mrs. Wallace's class, she sounds like a lot of fun. My English classes were boring as fuck.
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>>7804502
Sorry I was unclear, we are taught grammar fairly intensively, but the process is slowed by the fact that primary and secondary education in the UK neglect it. Sadly the students have failed in such numbers that the workloads have been reduced by a third for both Greek and Latin over the previous two years.
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>>7804539
jesus that is awful. My teacher basically taught basic grammar in the beginning two weeks for the 101 class then anyone who couldn't handle the language dropped the course by the end of it or 102. I'm signed up for the senior level course in Latin next semester and I'm fairly certain that it's only going to be me and like maybe one or two other people
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>>7801459
you come across as pretty self satisfied and the whole "I'm going to do this! (but i don't care btw)" is a cringeworthy way to defend what was probably a dumb poem and what is a fairly pedestrian story. sorry I had to be so real with you, senpai.
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>>7804560
Its down to the total failure of UK language education below university level and a pretty toxic student culture. Some courses it informed, like my first year class civ lectures which largely consisted of summaries of the books we were meant to have read, others, like the latin course, managed to keep their rigour, but that just meant that the students weren't prepared for the dedication it required.
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>>7804588
you say that, but I've seen today a rating of European universities and most of the best are britbongs. France traditionaly has a big Greek and Latin-teaching culture
The ENS isn't even in the top 10. I might commit seppuku with a limp baguette.
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>>7804620
Well I'm in a second rate institution and scotland, where they do four year degrees which seem to have the effect of a double first year rather than an extended third.
I wouldn't commit sudoku too soon, the effect is not the ruin of the institution but just a reduction in studiousness in students, luckily you are an individual so you can study all you want.
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>>7804539
Secondary education in the UK has failed

I remember in year 12 having to read books as a class out loud, every single student but me would hang on several words every sentence and would say each word distinctly and try to sound them out

Id say this is the least literate 1st world country
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>>7803684
>we were awful to a wonderful lady
>guy basically confronted her via homework
>that was hilarious
>this other guy told the person we were being awful about
>he's a big asshole
logic?
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>>7804703
I think he was meaning, what she didn't know didn't hurt her. They are all assholes imo.
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>>7804689
I don't know about that mate. Surely you were just from Glasgow or something?
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>>7802135
What childish cunt.
I would've talked so much shit, good on you, OP.
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>>7804564
Fair enough. The post wanted a story, I gave a story. I was 16, I did conflicting things. Cognitive dissonance is the basis of fetish but I thought me writing about my teacher becoming red-faced and then becoming red faced was funny. I got a few laughs.

I also did a version of fairy tales as tabloid newspaper articles which was much more cringeworthy.
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>>7804657
Thats the problem of the institution and your honours choices. I chose my 3rd and 4th years honours at Aberdeen as a continuation of my subjects, got known by the lecturers so I could refine my knowledge and set me up well for my masters.

When you're not paying anything for tuition can you really complain?
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>>7804689
>Year 12.
6th Form or public college mate?
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>>7805020
I'm English.
It hurts me, it really does (and I haven't gone to honours yet).
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>>7805049
Ah fuck mate. I'm guessing you got in after they jacked up the fees too?

Its never too late to change your Uni. The city life is always a benefit if you don't go to Dundee. But cost of living isn't too bad I guess.
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>>7802707
i did the exact same texts in high school, you from UK?
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>be in honors and AP English all though high school
>never do anything
>never get taught anything
>never read anything
>never learn anything

I can't even adequately describe the nothingness of my high school English classes
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>all boy catholic school
>literally 8 black kids and one mixed kid
>mixed kid is always an asshole but loves drawing
>English class one day junior year
>We are reading out of an awful state textbook
>Mixed kid is busy drawing in his notebook
>Teacher comes over
>"Jacob what are you drawing?"
>"Nothing. sorry."
>"No let me see Jacob. I hear you're good at drawing."
>Kid fucking rips up his drawings and shoves them down his throat
>Teacher totally shocked, just walks to her desk
>Friends and I still laugh about it

He was really good at guitar and artistic crap, but I theorize he was drawing hentai.
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>>7803852
>i'll have you know i am a navy seal etc.
he really hit a nerve didn't he anon
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>>7803635
>Not wanting 19th century culture

Pleb spotted
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>>7804500
It wasn't just age. I was a friendless loser who felt individualism was moral and responsible and the collective was leech-like and inherently evil all down the line.
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>live in Australia
>spend all 6 years of highschool studying books about Aboriginals and how white men are bad for what they did
>have to watch movies and analyse them
>fucking movies
>in English
>they were also about Aboriginals

Only worthwhile pieces of literature we read was Romeo and Juliet in Year 10, and Catcher in the Rye in Year 11.
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>>7804141
w-what
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>>7803779
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>>7805436
>people dress a way I don't like which means their opinions are wrong
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>>7803748
>>7804206
lmao this is something I should have read in high school but ended up in all the wrong classes somehow. thanks anons, should have known this
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>>7805340
Did you go to a private or public school? In my HS we only ever looked at like one book on abbos ever. But it was an elitist Jesuit school so I'm not sure if that made a difference
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>>7805535
I went to a public school. Every single year we had to either watch or read a book about Aboriginals.

We had some other books that we read. Along with the two I already mentioned, we also read "Holes" in Year 8, and "The Outsiders" in Year 9. But yeah other than that it was about Aboriginals or asylum seekers.
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>>7805436
Where did you find this picture of me?
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>>7805549
ayy lmao i remember holes and the outsiders. we had an asylum seeker book in there as well, and one about all these africans with AIDS but I don't remember it being too big on the white guilt stuff.
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>>7801401
>be in high school english class
>assignment is to write 500 words about a minor character from Romeo and Juliet
>I do Susan
>teacher said it wasnt real and I made it up
>mfw she only watched the baz movie and zoned out when explosions, sex and drugs wern't happening
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>>7801401
this fucking triggers me holy shit

im that retard that pronounced "wholly" as "holy" and even i knew not to fuck up that badly
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>>7805559
how th efuck
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Not an English class story, but I think this is amusing. When the 9/11 attacks were happening, the government teacher at my high school shut the classroom television off. He said it wasn't important.

What a dumbass. I know someone will probably quip that he was right, so I guess I'm forced to qualify that it was in fact important because it plunged America into a multiple front, unwinnable war on 'terrorism' and changed the landscape for many Americans.
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>>7805590
I was fapping when 9/11 happened. My dad came home early so I tucked it in, but he forced me to sit down in front of the TV, so I was watching these towers falling down with a massive erection.
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>>7805598
lol

I was leaving 2nd period Algebra, headed to 3rd period Health as a high school freshman. It's weird that it'll be fifteen years this September. I feel old as fuark.
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>>7805561
>that retard that pronounced "wholly" as "holy"
h-huh
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>>7805623
My reaction too. How is it supposed to be pronounced?
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>>7802219
It's like the spanish (spain)"Z" but without the "s" sound.
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>>7805649
hole-ee
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>>7801660
>be me in freshman or sophomore english or whatever reading "Of Mice and Men"
>popcorn style reading
>I get selected
>It's the nigger part
>I run right through the nigger part because
>lol no niggers in the class
>but still I get a little high pitched
>the "nig" part sounds more like
>ng
>ng-er
>still p flustered

And there's my story
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>>7801370
>honors english sophomore class
>make a google doc with rest of class to make an argument for why beatty is right and montag is not
>volunteer to be spokesman for my side
>entire fking document is people not agreeing with beatty and 2/4 of the people didn't even do it
>mfw loss debate because of research section
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>>7803666
Tis the aesthetic dream.
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>About ten years ago
>reading The Awakening in tenth grade English
>hate it because it's shitty not because it's feminist
>state my case in class of how boring it was
>do it without being diplomatic or particularly mature because I'm 17
>teacher calls me ignorant and perhaps misogynist
>reread book a couple years ago

still right, it's meaningless shit
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>>7804141
I lost it. Lmaooo
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>>7802115
damn
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>>7805758
Fucking group projects

>>7805709
lol

>>7805623
>>7805649
>>7805700
Bullshit, they're homophones

>>7805692
>>7802219
>>7802439
Half-true.

English's "th" is pronounced two different ways. In "they" "the" "them" "then" for example, it is a ð which is almost identical to θ except it is voiced. More or less, they're both a "thhhhhhh" sound, but sometimes you voice (vibrate your vocal cords) it and sometimes you dont. I suppose you just need to know which words to do it to.

For example: they's "th" and think's "th" are pronounced differently. If that makes sense?
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>>7802115
is that an evangelion reference? go back to /a/
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>be me
>big reader since I was a kid
>also into music
>REALLY into music
>get special "gifted" designation by the school that allows me to take extra music classes in place of others
>take Orchestra, choir, jazz band all four years
>take music history and music theory as electives
>win state and national competitions solo and part of groups
>big name magazine interviews me as an up and comer in one instrument I played
>apply to colleges
>don't apply to any performance schools
>go to small liberal arts college in Indiana with good scholarships
>study Literature
>don't tell friends I can play an instrument or sing
>graduate
>go to graduate school
>don't tell anybody about my past
I don't know why I did it. I just let it drop senior year without feeling much either way about it. I've only played in secret since.
>books ruined my musical career
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>be in australian school
>every books assigned is about the struggles of abo's
>puts me of reading for years
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>>7801671
>qt korean
>>>/racemixer9k/
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>>7805982
holy = hoh-lee
wholly = hole-lee
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>>7806299
This has always been my understanding of the difference between the two. This thread has been making me second guess myself.
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>>7801370
>be in college Milton class
>one guy always pauses at the end of the line even when we have enjambment
>professor keeps asking that one fucking guy to read aloud
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>>7806283
You must've gone to school in fucking Redfern. The only abo book we either got was the Secret River in year twelve.
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>>7804165
the only difference being, there's so much bullshit politics and arbitrary moral judgements embedded in race/gender focused """"""criticism"""""
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>>7801370
>tfw I couldn't hide my power levels during post colonial lit debate class
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>>7806417
Blog posts don't count as criticism anon.
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>>7806434
right, but my point is racial and gendered critique gets co opted by special interest groups and politically motivated zealots

I'm actually a film major and it kills me a little inside every time someone misuses words like 'the male gaze' or etc. Had a pointless argument about "representation" as well.
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>>7806437
All right, I don't think I disagree with you. The thing is, what I got from the other anon is that cultural criticism in academia is a perfectly valid and insightful approach. The problem of course is conflating that with the prevalent memetic repetition of "muh patriarchy" or whatever.
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>>7806442
I think you misunderstood me, I'm generally against the oversaturation of "culture criticism" which nowadays seems to consist little more than finding inventive ways to attack boogeyman spooks like "white/male/western hegemony"
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>9th grade or so
>always bored af at school because I was too smart for school
>froze my nipples at home until they fell off and took them to school with me in my lunchbox
>tossed them at my english teacher who would always get super freaked out and grossed out by it
best part is they regrow every week, fuck I was one autistic retard
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>>7804564
Why do defensive? How can you know his thing was bad if you haven't read it?
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>that abomination of a short story I wrote that was so bad the teacher thought it was parody
>he discussed it with three of his colleagues
I got a b+
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>>7806498
you are Tommy Wiseau
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>>7801962

>Carol Ann Duffy had in mind a general theme of being secure, insulated from the world, enclosed in a safe circumscribed environment, but hadn't necessarily thought of a womb specifically
>Someone says it reminds her of a womb
>Carol Ann Duffy agrees

There's nothing wrong with this. Not that I like her or her shitty poetry, but there's literally nothing wrong with what happened here.
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>>7802404
kek
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>>7803564
At least she was open minded enough to consider that she was wrong and lose confidence. Most lit high school teachers are well-entrenched, walleyed bricks.
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>>7801752

Not high school but

>8th grade English class
>have to do a presentation on a hobby
>'okay this will be fine just think about it and come up with something that isn't nerd shit'
>procrastinate
>fail to come up with a topic or prepare anything
>get up in front of the class
>mind is blank
>sweating
>'...I'm going to talk to you about a game called Warhammer...'
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>>7805081
>AP English
Don't must schools give away free English credits for good SAT scores like candy it is it just mine.
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>>7806431
lel gotta keep that mouth shut if you want them As, my boy
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