Is it true, or just a meme?
It's a meme.
It goes against Holden's personality, and I haven't seen a reasonable explanation for it.
If anyone wants to convince me I'm all ears.
>>7801215
it would be more believable if it didn't use "fucking as often as it could"
>>7801124
>>7801215
The archived thread credited in that image actually does not contain this conversation, but says that it was discussed in a previous thread, with no link to said thread.
How annoying.
>>7801314
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/S4528424
Dunno what happened.
>>7801337
Wow, thanks, anon! I was just expressing some frustration, but I do appreciate this. I've been going back through the archives and finding some fun conversations.
>>7801346
Search 'giant blueberry'. ;^)
>>7801382
Sleep on it. You'll come around.We all do.
Last page.
>>7801405
The truth hurts.
>>7801424
cringe
>>7801402
That whole thing read like total bullshit.
>>7801124
It's one very busy little worker bee with an unfortunate hobby. Don't even elevate it to the status of a meme.
That's retarded.
>>7803151
2L8M8
>>7801260
Why would I read an article that reads like a teenagers blog post
>>7801266
Die
His relationship with his sister is definitely ambiguous but it's unlikely that he rapes her.
It's more on a metaphorical level maybe, it shows his admiration for her, for her innocence.
>>7805910
It's where the oft repeated claim originally came from
>>7806614
No, he rapes his child sister up her tight undeveloped child cooter. You misread the book
>>7806614
I want to FUCK phoebe.
Anyone that denies he rapes his sister is trying to preserve a view where they can insert themselves.
No worries, you still can.
>>7806687
Anyone that argues he rapes his sister is trying to insert themselves into young children.
Just sayin. VN got it.
>>7806692
>implying I'm egocentric enough to insert into characters
shigydiggydewobop
>>7801124
"The world is just so phony and my damned teacher is a flit. Phoebe's unformed baby cunt is the only thing that keeps me going. I love the way she moistens when I kiss her innocent little throat. I relish her repeated wincing as I plunge my cock into her child pussy. My cum isn't phony, that's for damned sure..."
My favorite passage 2bh
"Yeeeauhhh... Throatpiss the lil cunt... yeeeuhh good little bitch. You're not gonna tell daddy, are you, cunt? Yeeeuhh, cause if you tell daddy, I'm going to fucking kill you and mommy, you got that Pheebs? Yeaahhh choke on the cock."
Salinger was a brilliant character writer
>>7806811
>>WEE WOO WE WOO NO FUN ZŌN
You can win at chess by knocking the board off the table, buttboi. 'Technically, no'. I'd love to knock that fedora off your head and slap Epicurus's On Love out of your swollen hands, leaving you 'flustered'. 'He literally had a Make America Great Again trucker hat on.'
I hope your computer freezes.
>>7806849
Here we have another example of what happens when you don't take your pills.
>>7806854
This is /lit/.
Pills turn torpid, turbid, and turpid the waters of soul that fountain forth frothy words and clauses that force the heart to erupt in bounding blooms of soaring transcendence.
Take your feculent pharmaceuticals elsewhere, kiddo.
>>7801266
Nice.
>>7806811
Go away you pathetic Stratfordian.
>>7806811
>There's no evidence therefore it didn't happen :^)
>>7806953
>there's no evidence therefore it happened
>>7806949
I don't think so.
>>7806880
Anyone who believes Holden fucked his sister needs meds.
>>7806966
Y so srs. Is there a god? Gods? Elements and atoms?
>>7806811
>can't read between the lines
>trivialises mental illness
Typical pleb.
>>7807063
>headcannon is reading between the lines
>doesn't need any pills
Well I guess if your illness is stupidity then you don't need pills since they haven't found a cure for it yet.
>>7801124
If Holden couldn't have fucked the hooker; then he couldn't have raped his sister. Seems really out of character for him to have done so. I would say the novel was really just about him being depressed he couldn't live up to his parents expectations and how he was still grieving over his brother's death.
>>7801215
>The fucking title of the novel
Anybody who believes this is a meme wizard
>>7807171
good lord, have you never heard of subtext? do people here even know how to read?
>>7807488
Yes, I have. Have you ever heard of common sense, logic and reason?
My cat understands The Catcher in the Rye better than you.
>>7807296
That's actually one indication that he did rape her. He isn't attracted to women, only to prepubescent girls.
>>7807816
>not having sex with one person means you have sex with another person
Can you people at least learn how to be funny/troll? You are too retarded to make others laugh, you know you don't actually have to post, right?
>>7807488
Knowing how to read means not filling holes in a story with a theory that goes against the main characters personality.
This thread has been up for almost two days and nobody posted this? Prepare to be redpilled:
http://postflaviana.org/a-pedophile-fantasy-in-the-rye/
Just ignore the 'why' which is a bunch of conspiracy nonsense, and focus on the actual textual exegesis.
>>7807905
>masonry
>new world order
>just ignore the conspiracy nonsense
Into the trash it goes.
>>7801124
> tfw taxi driver is about a grown up holden who never matured except got more violent and out of touch with humanity
>>7807905
No, seriously, this guy is mental. Why is everyone so afraid of pedophiles? Why do they see pedophiles everywhere? They're fucking sick.
Salinger clearly misses the good old days of innocence, before coming in touch with reality, in his particular case the harsh reality of war, that's why the dicotomy between children and adults is often present in his works.
I fucking hate what the western civilization has become, it's a fucking joke.
>Will Weaver, blogging at the Huffington Post, noticed another disturbing fact about JD Salinger’s literature:
>fact
>Salinger is clearly a pedophile
Sure, no leap of logic at all.
>why is it that no one remarks on the obvious? In his life and in his fiction, Salinger had a predilection for young girls and women that, at least from a 21st century lens, does not seem all that healthy.
>The first story in Salinger’s collection, Nine Stories, includes a scene at a beach with a “young man” (in his twenties) and a little girl. She is described as wearing a two-piece bathing suit that she would “not be needing” for nine or ten years. That’s slightly creepy coming from a grown guy. But he knows her by name, and our inner parent lets out a sigh of relief — until he compliments her again on her bathing suit. Soon he is holding her hand as they walk further down the beach where they go swimming together, and, in an intensely described scene, he helps her float by holding her ankles.
Except he never had that kind of predilection, you're the one who's not healthy, man. In fact the real person the girl is based on forced Salinger into sex when she was an adult and he rejected her afterwards because he never wanted that kind of relationship and he felt like she was soiled.
Get your facts straight.
That shit is retarded beyond belief.
>>7807919
Why would that have anything to do with the text? Look at the text quoted and see for yourself. Here are a few of the many passages:
>“Holden!” she said right away. She put her arms around my neck and all. She’s very affectionate. I mean she’s quite affectionate, for a child. Sometimes she’s even too affectionate. I sort of gave her a kiss, and she said, “Whenja get home?’ She was glad as hell to see me. You could tell.
>Then, just for the hell of it, I gave her a pinch on the behind. It was sticking way out in the breeze, the way she was laying on her side. She has hardly any behind.
>Old Phoebe didn’t say anything. When she can’t think of anything to say, she doesn’t say a goddam word.
>“Anyway, I like it now,” I said. “I mean right now. Sitting here with you and just chewing the fat and horsing–“
>She was sitting way up in bed. She looked so pretty.
>She was sitting smack in the middle of the bed, outside the covers, with her legs folded like one of those Yogi guys. She was listening to the music. She kills me.
>I taught her how to dance and all when she was a tiny little kid. She’s a very good dancer. I mean I just taught her a few things. She learned it mostly by herself.
>I don’t do it out in public with Phoebe or anything. We just horse around in the house. It’s different with her anyway, because she can dance. She can follow anything you do. I mean if you hold her in close as hell so that it doesn’t matter that your legs are so much longer. She stays right with you.
(hmm, I wonder what 'dance' implies)
>>7807981
Underrated posts.
>>7801266
haram
>>7806706
>>7806738
Sick fux
