>try to write something
>it always ends up being genre fiction
>>7799264
>try to write genre fiction
>get sidetracked by /lit/ memes and dead philosophers and veer into inchoate obscurantist pretension
>>7799286
It's better than genre fic.
Im the same ope. No matter what I write, even a sentence, if it's fiction it turns into genre trash. watch.
Stately, plump Buck Mulligan, vampire prince, hovered up from the stairhead, bearing a bowl of human eyeballs on which ornate cutlery lay crossed.
See that shit? It keeps happening, even when I just try to copy passages from memory. It's like I'm cursed. Someone tell me I'm not alone.
>>7799304
help me understand the difference here. how could that be considered "genre fiction" with just one sentence
>>7799304
Here's another example.
It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a waifu.
I didn't mean to type that! But I did! And now it's garbage!
all fiction is genre fiction in a sense that each book has its own genre or fits neatly into some broader movement like post-modernism or surrealism.
>>7799353
>conflating retroactive prescriptions of movements as a categorization shorthand with genres
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>write something
>it's always ends up being edgy
I just like morbid stuff, okay? I honestly feel like the human experience has a dark vein that all these serial killer/mass atrocity novels haven't touched yet.
>>7799329
>vampire
vampire = horror = genre
it's really not that difficult
>>7799457
I think "vampire" is considered a sub-genre of fantasy today.
> librarian is attractive qt
> she asked me to leave her alone
>>7799264
Everything I write ends up being a character study because I can't write stories where things actually happen.
>>7799575
Just go with it.
>>7799575
read lajos egri
tl;dr add someone who's got the opposite goal of another character. (please tell me your characters have some kind of motivation)
>>7799304
>>7799348
I like you OP
>>7799286
>get sidetracked by /lit/ memes and dead philosophers and veer into inchoate obscurantist pretension
This is me. I once tried to write an erotic fanfiction about Holden and Phoebe and it turned into stream-of-consciousness philosophizing and references to Greek tragedy
>>7799635
What do you find in Greek tragedy? Isn't it too primitive? Isn't all the veneration it gets due to primitivity? And that is no reason to like anything?
>>7799660
Well that's the thing-- it is, as anon said, "obscurantist pretension"
I haven't actually read the works I'm referencing
>try to write something
>it always ends up being postmodern bullshit that is trying to sound clever while being devoid of authenticity
I swear I cannot even write an authentic diary.
>>7799264
> Not writing for pleasure
lmao scrub
>>7799757
>implying you can do "X" for pleasure if you are bad at "X"
>>7799781
I'm bad at Super Smash Bros. Melee but when I play with my friends, I still get a lot of pleasure from the Pyrrhic victory of Kirby back-throw suicides.
>>7799794
>I can enjoy media consumption
Cool. I am talking about hobbies dipshit
>>7799809
>implying books aren't media to be consumed
it may be smart media but it's still media, and consumption of a particular type of media is a hobby
>>7799823
>he is literally this far off track
Okay, let me know how much fun you have MAKING your own fighting game
>>7799264
Just write genre fiction then.
>>7799725
k thx
i just dropped a huge bagel shit (nojew), like those sticky but solid mush ones that just feel like a dull pain plus farts until you stand up and its like god damn i hope that shit flushes
All my characters end up the same because they all come from the source material (my schizophrenic delusions and hallucinations)
I've been held at gunpoint for wanting to change something in the personality
>>7799464
Yeah, for the most part they've lost anything frightening, now they're just another race like elves and dwarves.
>>7799964
Dwarves are outright appalling.
genre just means meme anyway
>>7799972
Ones that are their own species or just abnormally short humans?
>>7799575
Everything I write ends up being a bunch of barely related vignettes where nothing happens and the characters are barely one dimensional.
>>7800021
Oh. You were talking about them.
Everything I write ends up being scenery description.
Quite relaxing, at least.
>>7800132
Worst condition in this thread. I hope you get well soon, anon.
>>7800141
Thank you, I am pretty bad at making things happen and that is a fundamental flaw. Trying to write every day, but I find incredibly hard to not think about how terrible is what I wrote. I feel terribly ashamed about it and then get back to describing some calm mountain.
>>7800184
I don't think you should be ashamed of your product, since nobody is nowadays. I honestly think that the fact that you like to write is enough to get you going today. That's how most authors start writing (like DeLillo, not being sure whether they have what it takes in themselves) nowadays.
>try to write anything
>it ends up being semi-autobiographical embellishment of my lame life where the main character is way wittier than everyone and everyone else talks in literary and pop culture references
i'm a living stereotype of the "YOUNG WRITER"
i would really appreciate it if someone came and killed me to end this suffering
>try to write genre fiction
>end up writing something of literary merit
>try to write something
>it always ends up as a treatise on loneliness, alienation and regret where the secondary characters hardly seem to exist
>>7800132
That does sound relaxing. Have you considered trying your hand at poetry or perhaps genre religious reflections?
>>7800462
I did consider poetry, but again, everything I write ends up embarassing me, I feel like I'm too pretentious, or too stupid, or something is too forced, or the writing is quite simply bad.
>>7800203
The thing is, it only happens with writing. For example: I am a bad singer, but I have fun singing, I wouldn't even mind singing to someone else. I know I'm bad at singing, I lack the technique and the voice, but I don't really mind singing for fun.
When I write, I can feel myself blush and want to hide the thing, even though no one is ever gonna see it. I get ashamed of myself and it stops me.
I don't know what the issue is with it, what I try to do is just suck it up and never stop, not even to correct eventual mistakes. It doesn't work really well for now.
>try to write something
>it's decent. i make progress on my novel.
>don't write again for a long time.
>>7800583
>try to write something
>it's decent. i make progress on my novel.
>get distracted by other things in your life, like having to work
>don't write again for a long time.
>wake up one day and you are 60
>>7799286
>try to write any story at all
>end up with random philosophical contractions and how they can all work together in my mind perfectly while simultaneously making me feel confused and frustrated at how wholly contradictory they are
>write like 2 sentences that span 6 pages
>barely starched the surface
>can't follow what I wrote
>every line of thought sends me in a different direction
>Think way faster than I type so words are missing or I'll do things like write "can" in place of "can't"
>fell physically disgusted by how sloppy and unorganized my writing is
>give up on it
Every single time. I just want to get my thoughts down to share with people. I feel so alone. I'm even worse at talking to people about it.
>get evocative imagery for a poem stuck in head
>keeps coming back to me like a flash of inspiration
>feels like it hits on something that's incredibly important to my whole life and soul
>have to get it out
>too embarrassed to write it because it will be pretentious and shitty
>get surge of self-confidence and enthusiasm out of the blue one day
>fuck it, i'm going to try writing it
>5 minutes later
>read over my awful pretentious mixture of shitty words like a 15 year old girl on fucking deviantart wrote them
>puerile childlike shallow garbage that i still managed to make 500000000% hyperdrive levels of pretentious
>feel sick to my stomach with shame and self-loathing
>literally feel like punching myself until i'm dead
>get drunk at 2AM even though i have work at 8
>>7800719
rewriting is the key to writing
>try to write something
>become overwhelmed by a crippling fear of failure and inadequacy
>write nothing
>>7800235
this
>try to write something
>it always ends up being plagiarism
a few weeks ago i thought i've produced the best short story i've ever written til i realised it was basically a copy of dfw's good old neon
>attempt scribing
>everything is terrible and unsubstantial memeing
>cant get through a sentence without fearing Ive broken like twenty rules of grammar
>convince myself of the whole things pointlessness
>be conflicted
>420 braise it
>>7799264
>showering in salt
americans
All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is banished to Mithras. Everything was in confusion in the Oblonsky’s castle. The wife had discovered that the husband was carrying on
an intrigue with an elf girl, who had been an enchantress in their family, and she had announced to her husband that she could not go on ornipeduring in the same castle with him.
>>7799753
authenticity is a spook
objectively kill yourself
>>7800221
kill yourself [1]
1. Obejctively
