>DFW was 24 when Broom of the System was published
>Zadie Smith was 25 when White Teeth was published
>Marek Hlasko was 23 when Eighth Day of the Week was published
>F.S. Fitzgerald was 23 when This Side of Paradise was published
>Carson McCullers was 23 when The Heart is a Lonely Hunter was published
>Tao Lin was 24 when EEEEE EEE EEEE & Bed were published
>Italo Calvino was 23 when The Path to the Nest of the Spiders was published
>Kerouac was 20 when The Sea is My Brother was published
>Goethe was 25 when The Sorrows of Young Werther was published
>Musil was 25 when The Confusions of Young Torless was published
>Hemingway was 25 when In Our Time was published
>Tatsuhiko Takimoto was 24 when Welcome to the NHK was published
>Ryu Murakami was 24 when Almost Transparent Blue was published
>Garcia Marquez was 20 when Eyes of a Blue Dog was published
>Nietzsche was 18 when "Napoleon III as a President" was published
>Nietzsche was 18 when "Fate and History" was published
>Nietzsche was 18 when Free Will and Fate was published
>Nietzsche was 19 when "Can the Envious Ever Truly Be Happy?" was published
>Nietzsche was 20 when "On Tendencies" was published
>Nietzsche was 20 when "My Life" was published
>Saramago was 25 years old when Land of Sun was published
>Dickens was 24 when Sketches by Boz was published
>Dickens was 25 when The Pickwick Papers was published
>Huxley was 25 when Limbo was published
>James Joyce was 25 when Chamber Music was published
What are you doing with your life, /lit/?
wasting it on here
I'm still 19, it's ok
>>7797102
"the time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time." - bertrand russell
>>7797096
Man, I don't know what Samuel Beckett was thinking. I know she had schizophrenia, but I would have totally boned Joyce's daughter.
>>7797096
I dont wanna write
>>7797096
it's not my fault society treats adults like children
:(
>>7797096
Being published is an achievement before 25. but nearly all of these books are unexceptional. none of these are near the best works of their respective authors (except zadie smith).
>Norman Maclean was 73 when A River Runs Through It was published.
I'm doing OK with my life I think, OP.
>ts eliot was 22 when he wrote prufrock
>lee harvy oswald was 24 when he killed JFK
>daniel johnston was 23 when he recorded hi how are you
>orson welles was 24 when he reinvented hollywood cinema
>elliot rodger was 22 when he published 'my twisted world'
just shit my fuck up
>>7797118
oops except for goethe and dickens. pickwick and sorrows are great
man I haven't seen this in a while
an absolute classic
Accomplishments are bullshit. Especially, when they are arbitrarily assigned by something as superficial as age.
>tfw halfway through 25 and have a novella on my hands that I think is actually worth a shit but no one will give me the time of day
How do you know when to give up, /lit/? I can't tell the difference between doubt that's necessary to be good and doubt that genuinely means you should stop trying because you're shit
>>7797112
Wasn't that his wife in that photo?
>>7797137
pretty sure that's lucia.
>>7797108
thats a saying that goes back to the Roman empire, Russell didn't come up with it
>>7797142
can i get a source?
>Hegel was 37 when he wrote Phenomenology
>Proust was in his early 40s when he started forming ISFLT
>Joyce was in his 30s when he wrote dubliners
A lot of them form their hobbies in their early 20s but how many of them wrote their greatest work at that time period?
Helen Oyeyemi was 18 when her first novel was published and she's now 31 and has published six books, more than any of you pale scrawny whiteboys ever will because she doesn't waste her time on shitty sites like this one. What self-respecting black woman would? They're out doing in the world instead of hanging out on /lit/.
https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/untitled-article-1457479332
>>7797112
>implying he didn't
>implying James himself didn't hit it raw
Helen Oyeyemi was 18 when her first novel was published, and eleven years later, she's published six books of fiction.
https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/untitled-article-1457479332
>>7797140
The same photo comes up when you google both of them.
>>7797167
lol is that Tito's Vodka?
>>7797170
lucia on the left. nora on the right.
Until I was twenty-five, I had no development at all. From my twenty-fifth year I date my life. Three weeks have scarcely passed, at any time between then & now, that I have not unfolded within myself.
>>7797190
hey man good to hear
>>7797136
Read Don Quixote
Watch Party Down
And Finnegan began again.
>>7797188
I've never even heard of Giorgio before. He must've been the most average member of the family.
>>7797136
>novella
That's your problem. No one touches those these days. You could try to find a really tiny press that takes unsolicited manuscripts, but for the most part, novellas have gone the way of the dinosaur outside of short story collections (which no one publishes either unless you've gotten each of the individual stories published in a legit magazine beforehand).
>>7797108
He stole this from Asher Roth
>time isn't wasted when you're getting wasted
Further evidence of Russel being a hack.
>>7797161
Idk about that joyce one... I think he wrote it and then it took a long time to be pubbed
>>7797136
What length do you consider a novella?
I was 6 when I wrote The Epic of Alki
>tfw 29
>tfw published two short stories but nothing in a major publication
>tfw no novels published
I mean I've gotten some freelance work done for magazines, too, but still, the idea that these fellows had done so much at a younger age does make you feel inadequate. I feel like Caesar weeping before the statue of Napoleon.
>>7797845
Yeah, it took him 9 years to get it published and it was a massive failure in his lifetime. From what I understand, none of his books were successful while he was alive.
most of /lit/ is underage b& so still has plenty of time
>>7797845
I guess he was closer to 25 or something. His greatest works were still written later though
>>7797096
>19
>just gave up on a story I've been working on for the last 6 months
kill me
>>7797872
true. It wasn't until the censorship controversy over Ulysses that he became a well known author. But of course he was by no means famous outside of the literary community until after his death
OP if you're going to copy my pasta at least copy the whole list:
>Proust was 25 when Pleasures and Days was published
>Mishima was 23 when Confessions of a Mask was published
>Bret Easton Ellis was 21 when Less Than Zero was published
>Bret Easton Ellis was 23 when Rules of Attraction was published
>Kenzaburō Ōe was 23 when Nip the Buds, Shoot the Kids was published
>Emile Zola was 24 when Contes à Ninon was published
>Balzac was 20 when Cromwell was published
>Baudelaire was 24 when Salon of 1845 was published
>Hitomi Kanehara was 20 when Snakes and Earrings was published
>Stig Dagerman was 23 when Ormen was published
>Strindberg was 22 when The Outlaw was published
>Ibsen was 22 when Catiline was published
>Milan Kundera was 24 when Man: A Wide Garden was published
>Adam Thirwell was 24 when Politics was published
>Ned Beaumann was 25 when Boxer, Beetle was published
>Norman Mailer was 25 when The Naked and the Dead was published
>Eleanor Catton was 22 when The Rehearsal was published
>Robert Walser was 23 when Schneewittchen was published
>Noah Cicero was 23 when The Human War was published
>Jorge Luis Borges was 24 when Fervor de Buenos Aires was published
>Tolstoy was 24 when Childhood was published
>Johan Harstad was 23 when Amublance was published
>Mira Gonzalez was 21 when i will never be beautiful enough for us to be beautiful together was published
>Mira Gonzalez was 23 when Collected Tweets was published
>Kim Insuk was 20 when Bloodline was published
>Evelyn Waugh was 25 when Decline and Fall was published
>Ben Brooks was 18 when Grow Up was published
>Luna Miguel was 22 when Bluebird and Other Tattoos was published
>Luna Miguel was 23 when La tumba del marinero was published
>Nathaniel Hawthorne was 24 when Fanshawe was published
>Masuji Ibuse was 25 when Yu Hei was published
>Rachel Bell was 22 when Welcome To Your New Life With You Being Happy was published
>Elliot Rodger was 22 when My Twisted World was published
>>7797136
related question: how do i know when to give up on my obscure highly pop-culture influenced experimental poetry instead of pretending i'm a genius for being the only one writing this stuff because Kerouac told me that geniuses give birth to new forms of originality that always meet resistance hello?
>>7798514
please do not include such shit writers as Ellis, Gonzalez and Waugh, thanks.
>writing to be published
Dostoyevsky's first book was published when he was 25.
His first GOOD book was published 20 years later.
>>7798695
You're simply wrong. His first book was well-received throughout Russia. While you're posting on 4chan and wondering whether you're not too old to wear some piece of clothing which advertises your cultural preferences in the hope that some cute girl will appreciate that and approach you Dostoevsky was having his externalized thoughts penetrate the minds of tends of thousands of individuals.
>>7798705
>His first book was well-received throughout Russia
we don't recognize dostoevsky's talent because of those first books though
>implying i want to be published
I'm happy just reading brah.
nah
>>7797190
Yeah, I'm the same, I had really bad anxiety which I wasn't forced to confront till my twenties. Although you should probably consult a doctor about the unfolding within yourself, that sounds like a medical condition.
>>7798705
Not him but
>His first book was well-received throughout Russia
Does not imply that it was of good quality
>While you're posting on 4chan
The lamest possible dismissal of a critic. That guy might be a total waste of oxygen, but that's totally irrelevant in this context.
I'm almost 22. I'm a failure.
>>7799784
ordinarily not, but if you genuinely judge yourself as a result of this list then you probably are beyond help
>>7797190
Melville said that. Though he had published two novels before turning 25.
>>7797115
jackie treehorn treats objects like women
>>7797967
Why?
I'm 19 and writing my first book... heh heh there's still time
RIGHT?!
RIGHT?!
>>7797850
>caesar
>napoleon
>>7800975
Yeah, fuck, I meant Alexander.
Fun fact, Plutarch openly wonders if Caesar was merely effecting tears to be dramatic.
>>7797096
a lot of those are shit though
>>7800982
*affecting
I'm a retard today apparently.
>>7798514
>>7797096
>Cervantes was 38 when he published La Galatea
>Bernhard was 32 when he published Frost
>Flaubert was 36 when he published Madame Bovary
>Stendhal was 44 when he published Armance
>Joseph Heller was 38 when he published Catch 22
>Houellebecq was 38 when he published Whatever
>Toni Morrison was 40 when she published the bluest eye
>Anthony Burgess was 39 when he published Time for a Tiger
>William S. Burroughs was 39 when he published Junkie
>George Eliot was 40 when she published Adam Bede
There still hope, anons
>>7797096
>Kerouac was 20 when The Sea Is My Brother was published
They published The Sea is My Brother posthumously.
