IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN
http://imgur.com/gallery/zhqeXjY
http://imgur.com/gallery/zhqeXjY
http://imgur.com/gallery/zhqeXjY
>This is a terrible list. It's not by people who love reading but by those that love telling people they read.
/lit/ BTFO
>>7728713
>I like Douglas Adams, ut no Pratchett? No Gaiman? Also James Joyce is a terrible read.
Jesus Christ these comments are painful.
Anyway the 2014 list was somehow worse than the 2015 one. This one has a lot more shit on it like BEE and Fight Club and HP.
>This is a terrible list. It's not by people who love reading but by those that love telling people they read.
Yeah, that's exactly why those people use an anonymous imageboard to talk about books. Makes sense.
>redditfags can't into literature
kek
victor providing the patrician keks
Yes, because reading anything but Harry Potter obviously makes you an asshole who only reads for attention.
Nevermind the fact that some of the books on that chart are actually really good.
>lol this shit is hard to read why would you read that youre obviously a pretentious asshole you cant possibly enjoy that read fight club like me thats real literature xD
>This blows my mind. Harry Potter is never top 100. Infinite Jest #1? C'mon...
wew
>this is a terrible list. It's not by people who love reading but by those that love telling people they read
>every time this is reposted it pisses me off that hitchikers guide is not 42...
>game of thrones ruined everything for me. I can no longer read a book where one guy/girl lives the entire time and avoids death
>looks like the entry list for a club that really likes to tell other people how much they read. Like Mensa
>moby Dick??.. All this time I thought that was a venereal disease.
>Catcher in the Rye is the only book I have ever not finished. Put it down after the second chapter and never looked back
>who the fuck puts the bible in their top 100 books list
>lists like this bother me! Read what YOU love, not what you're told to love
>what about endears game? Or a batman graphic novel (year one, killing joke)?
Thank God for lit. The banality of trying to talk about liliterature anywhere else; It's still annoying here, but fuck me, you forget what's out there.
>>7728784
>Harry Potter is never top 100
>Harry Potter
>shitty YA book series that has been milked for profit like a fucking whore
>all sequals are fucking shit and were obviously not planned
>better than IJ
confirming all reddit stereotypes tbqh
>Top 100 Books ... for English Lit majors. I don't see Sun Tzu's The Art of War or Musahis's Book of Five Rings in there.
>great list if you have zero imagination and a tiny view of the world based on what white men think
>>7728784
He might have ment that harry potter should never be top 100 (because HP is ironically in the list) and that it's retarded that IJ is #1.
Which are both completely reasonable statements.
>I have read 15 of them. But they are missing important ones like, The Hours, The Bell Jar, and War of the Worlds.. and all James Patterson!
>>7728790
Tfw these o-so-funny imgur memes will only make /lit/ worse and worse, until we become /mu/.
>>7728728
>It sounds like the book list Brian from Family Guy would give.
/lit/ in flames
The comments can be summed up as "they're missing the books I've read"
>>7728790
>that one guy who uses banal when he means annoying
>>7728829
>a tiny view of the world
That projection.
>>7728829
Why do people even care about MUH DIVERSITY in lists like these? Gender/race doesn't need to be taken into account in every aspect of life.
>>7728713
>This is a terrible list. It's not by people who love reading but by those that love telling people they read.
what an insecure faggot
>>7728896
>but by those that love telling people they read.
t.booktuber
>>7728713
>Putting Infinite Jest as #1 ironically
Or was that unironically ironic?
>>7728858
>until we become /mu/
I'm actually afraid that this might happen. We have to set some kind of mechanism in place that maintains a high level of discourse and literary discussion on /lit/. Any ideas?
>>7728905
ban all shitposters
I keep on reporting but nothing happens.
>>7728713
The thing is its like 50% the same stuff as the reddits top 100 i swear
>>7728790
>this is a terrible list. It's not by people who love reading but by those that love telling people they read
Best description of /lit/ really
>pissed off that Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy is not 42
I fucking hate meme culture
https://www.reddit.com/r/raerth/comments/cpxkq/reddits_favourite_books/c0udvs9
>taking reddit seriously
>>7728728
>I feel threatened by these books and assume they are books that people don't really enjoy reading, people only claim to have read these books
pPebs in a nuthsell, really.
>>7729544
>pPebs in a nuthsell, really.
*Plebs in a nutshell.
>>7729529
that was my first thought too
that chewing gum you like is going to come back in style
>The Reddit is strong in this one.
I've read 55 of these, and I don't think about 10 of them should be in the top 100 (I'm looking at you, Wallace & Ellis.)
well that's it. /lit/s done. peace out bros. can't take any more news or plebs, have to shut off the computer and read a book.
>imgur
>fav books: harry potter/the hobbit/le hitchkhiekers guide tho the galaxy
trash
Man why are people so angry about a list of classic books
>>7729812
le 42
>>7729850
Cuntism on both sides
>>7729850
THEY WERE FORCED TO READ THEM IN SCHOOL. FORCED I TELL YOU, IT WASN'T FANTASY I COULD LOSE MYSELF IN AND CURL UP ON THE COUCH WITH NO WE HAVE TO READ FROM BORING DEAD OLD WHITE MAN, WHY AREN'T THER ANY WOMAN OR BLACK WRITERS ON THIS LIST, IT'S RACIST ADAM DOUGLAS SHOULD BE ON ONE HÈ IS SO FUNNY MUCH BETETR THEN THOSE PRETENTIOUS WRITERS CARRING ABOUTALEB LANGUAGE. WHO CARES HOW FANCY YOUR WORDS ARE READING SHOULD BE FUN.
>>7729866
>READING SHOULD BE FUN
That's true though.
>>7729869
A book is not required to be an action movie in order to be qualified as "good"
>>7729869
Reading can have other purposes than enjoyment.
>>7728790
>game of thrones ruined everything for me. I can no longer read a book where one guy/girl lives the entire time and avoids death
Because so many of the books in that list are that sort of thing. Fuck me.
>>7728728
Many /lit/izens act that way but if anything the list was TOO pleb. Large parts of the Western Canon were left off.
>>7728913
I actually got banned for telling shite posters to fuck off. Smh.
>>7729869
They should be both informative and fun.
>>7728915
Reddit's top 200 is so fucking cringeworthy
http://www.listchallenges.com/reddits-top-200-books
>>7729975
Art has no obligation to entertain you.
honestly i'm pretty proud of /lit/ for this list. all things considered it could have been a whole lot worse and for the most part the books are great.
also i liked the anon's presentation, just enough memes (hemmmingway lol) without being overbearing, and the intro is cute. the more recent one felt so cold and impersonal in comparison
>>7729992
You should be able to find your entertainment in the learning desu.
i remember going to the book barn (or whatever their literature subforum is called) on something awful recently and it was fucking miserable. /lit/ is way better. i don't know what imgur uses to discuss literature. probably nothing
>>7729107
>17. Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond.
>the stranger is the second best book
>IJ the first
The fuck is wrong with you people, how is the stranger better than gravity's rainbow ?
>>7729812
Should I read Htchhikers? I've seen it mentioned a thousand fucking times and want to know what's the fuzz about, I understand its a short book but I don't want to get memed.
>>7730082
It's reddit's top book of all time, make of that what you will.
>>7730072
Nobody on /lit/ has actually read GR.
>>7729107
>199. Hamlet by Shakespeare
>>7730072
>IJ and Gravity's Rainbow in either spots
Neither of those are even in the Canon. 1 and 2 should be Ulysses and In Search of Lost Time.
>>7730082
It's le xDDD epik randumb humor. If you want a short book that is funny then you should read Candide.
>>7730096
I'm a pinecone fanboy but I agree that Ulysses should be first
>>7729989
Looking at that list it suddenly became apparent to me that redditors in general have no idea that literature can be beautiful.
>>7730072
yeah, it's weird how the stranger always ends up so high on these charts, especially as it isn't even discussed that much on this board. i'm all for the worth of entry level stuff, but this seems the most incongruous given just how popular it apparently is, whilst not actually being that good
it's the one case where it really does feel like babby's first existentialism
>>7728790
>moby Dick??.. All this time I thought that was a venereal disease
That's actually funny but I'm not sure if he's being ironic
How high would our new meme books place this year
>the recognitions
>women and men (?
>the tunnel (gass)
>>7728728
I seems like half the people commenting are saying this.
They might as well be saying "I'm too close minded to think anyone could possibly like things that I don't."
>>7730124
I think the Stranger is that one book that everyone has already read so it just pops up more.
>>7728713
>ugh i can't believe there are people out there that like to read complicated books!
They are assuming that by top books the list means everything ever written, so including non-fiction and what have you. If you changed the title to top 100 works of literature I think the reaction would be different
>>7730694
I highly doubt it. The reaction isn't "you're forgetting the non-fiction!" it's, "How could anyone like these books!"
>>7730694
It's also not even 'top 100 books of all time, objective list' it's 'what books /lit/ likes the most, top 100'
>>7730072
it's the 2014 list anon. the 2015 list is way different, and better.
>>7730768
post it
>>7730694
This. If we had included some more accessible non fiction then they could be happier.
the autism in the comments is painful
>>7730771
you should already know what it looks like.
but i'll try to see if i can find it.
>>7730099
>le funny candide meme
yeah that princess gangrape was hilarious.
dat les miserables comment.
>>7730821
>>7730991
that's quite a lot better.
>>7730979
post it
>>7730979
>It is regarded as pretty bad fiction by many
It isn't as hella fucking epic as Ready Player One !!!111
>Reading the comments.
What's the worth of living alongside these people?
>>7728713
Most likely a troll comment but I like to pretend it's real.
All of reddit should read de Tocqueville. It would be eye opening.
>>7730970
I'm not sure what to make of this. Are you even familiar with Leibniz?
>muh gang rape
>muh rape
>>7731085
if anything, you're the
>muh gang rape
one here. sorry, violation of young girls isn't funny, no matter how you twist it.
>>7731103
>I'm only pretending to be retarded!
>>7731138
>i think rape is funny!
They're actually just envious that there are people out there who enjoy thinking and challenging themselves.
>>7728790
>>what about endears game? Or a batman graphic novel (year one, killing joke)?
>Or a batman graphic novel (year one, killing joke)?
>>7729989
>1.The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
>10. Harry Potter
>36. The Cat in the Hat
I almost fell for it
>>7728790
>a batman graphic novel
oh my
>>7728790
Yeah /lit/ is not that bad. We have to stop it from going downhill.
It has already started to but it is not too late.
>>7728790
>>who the fuck puts the bible in their top 100 books list
>>7728713
Those retards have shit taste but most of you do as well. Who cares?
WHAT THE FUCK IS HARRY POTTER DOING ON THAT LIST (NUMBER 54)
AND WHAT THE FUCK IS GALAXY SHIT DOING THERE AS WELL (NUMBER 90)
>>7728713
>http://imgur.com/gallery/zhqeXjY
why is it never the newest list
>>7731869
nvm i was wrong
The /lit/ charts are pretty much just safe canon stuff with a few meme offerings sprinkled in. reddit is full of philistines
>>7730991
why is this one never posted
I don't see The Art of the Deal in that list.
>>7731165
It's not the rape itself that's funny on its own, but it and the invasion's juxtaposition to the description of Candide and the Princess' idyllic, happy-go-lucky days. Basically Voltaire pinching a fat nasty on a court life that would rather not think of the horrors or war, when war was all Europe knew at that time.
Don't dismiss a book over one scene that you found distasteful when you know full well why it was included, faggot.
>>7728713
when the silmarillion is higher on the list than lord of the rings is when you know this entire board needs to be put out of its misery. the experiment is over. we've failed.
>>7732283
when either book is on the list in the first fucking place, this.
>>7732269
I am justifying Voltaire's use of rape in Candide to prove a point about aristocratic attitudes towards terrifying realities in 18th century Europe. In my post, I stated rape was included in the horrors of war, not that it was an inevitability that had to come to pass or a benign thing at all: we're quite good nowadays at waging clean wars (if you could truly ever call warfare "clean").
Kill yourself, pleb.
>>7732288
>admits to justifying rape
kill yourself, rape apologist.
>>7730099
oh yeah dude you're so fucking sophisticated with your ninth grade satire criticizing an all but dead religious philosophy
kys
>>7732289
So rape cannot be mentioned at all, even in allegory?
>>7732292
rape apologists do not deserve explanation.
kill yourself, my man.
>>7732294
>is probably a victim blaming alt right psychopath
you first my man
>>7732294
What is rape
>>7732294
virtue ethics are for literal monkeys
try reading a book while you're here bud
>>7732297
>makes invalid assumptions after admitting his rape justifications
>with great swiftness, Anon leapt into the oven, he did not shriek as the fiery tongues licked his flesh, for he knew he was a rape apologist, and this was to be his fate when he took up the mantle of rape
>>7732303
different anon dumbshit, learn cadence
>>7732307
become a tripfag if you want to be distinguished, rape apologist.
>>7732303
>invalid assumptions
>responding to the wrong anon
things that make you say hmmmmm
>>7732304
really, i mean even consequentalism is bad but its better than the horseshit you're spewing. id personally recommend deontology but really anything that isnt this is fine.
>>7728728
What a fucking pleb thing to say
Most of these books are very popular
>>7732318
Yes
I'm a proud rapist and a proud Bernie Sanders supporter.
AMA
>>7732332
>rapists
>jews
fucking typical.
>>7731901
Various reasons I think.
- It's taken a while for the 2014 list to make its way around various places, so the 2015 list may catch up sometime next year.
- The 2015 list has fewer crowd-pleasers. e.g. Harry Potter is in the middle of the 2014 list, but in 2015 it's nowhere to be seen (though admittedly there are still a couple of Vonneguts making up the YA quotient of the list). With fewer crowd-pleasers, people are less likely to latch onto it.
- And the 2015 survey was a clusterfuck. Trolls and Christposters got the Bible to #1, and so there were then different versions of the final list that picked out various books that were regarded as being largely troll-voting.
>>7728713
>no gaddis
>no gass
>no hawkes
Remind me why I come to this board again?
>>7732338
>thinks naming the jew is alt-right
typical rape apologist logic
>>7732354
he has literally said he is jewish.
https://youtu.be/EeeqtDdj3kg?t=103
>>7732318
Rape is kinda fun, actually.
>>7732377
How are you sure that's really him?
Unless you've seen him in person you have no way of proving that Bernie Sanders isn't just clever CGI and an example of masterful voice acting
>>7732391
>jewllusions
that's fine, still jews though.
>>7732402
Unless you've seen them in person, you really have no way of knowing Jews are real too.
>>7732415
>have met stinky hasidic jews
come now, jewrapeanon. let's be reasonable, your people like to make deals, we give you land here in this desert, and you leave us the fuck alone, kosher?
>>7732415
How can Jews be real if the media isn't real?
>>7732432
Do you have any proof your not under the jewllusion yourself?
You definitely seem jewluded. Read a book and cut away the jewllucinations.
>>7732434
>How can Jews be real if the media isn't real?
>>7732440
>your
confirmed jew
>>7732342
>Trolls and Christposters got the Bible to #1
that was a different poll from >>7730991 entirely, that was at the beginning of the year and this one was near the end.
And I think the big mistake of the list is including the vote count. Also numbered order doesn't help anything either but all of these have that problem..
>>7728728
How the fuck did anyone reach that conclusion when almost the entire list is well-regarded classics?
What I find funny is that the last time I saw this list posted on /tv/ they had the complete opposite reaction: everyone was calling the list 'pleb', probably because in the realm of film there is a presumed link between 'obscurity' and patrician-ness that isn't really present in literature.
>>7732616
>in the realm of film there is a presumed link between 'obscurity' and patrician-ness
dude this is every board on 4chan, including /lit/. this list gets shit for being "high-school tier".
>>7731577
Fell for what? That's a legitimate list. See
https://www.reddit.com/r/raerth/comments/cpxkq/reddits_favourite_books/
>inb4 'redditor!'
I tracked this down for a thread a month or so ago where OP was asking people to predict reddit's favorite books
>>7729812
Kek at that false dichotomy. How does reading 100 of the most well-regarded novels from the last 4 centuries make you 'sound' well read and not 'actually' well read?
>>7732627
>dude this is every board on 4chan, including /lit/. this list gets shit for being "high-school tier"
But it doesn't though. I have never seen that accusation leveled at it from anywhere but other boards.
99% of discussion on here surrounds famous prose and philosophical texts that most people with a mild interest in literature have at least heard of.
Compare to /mu/ or something where you routinely get lists like
>1: 上海老歌 1931-1949 (2008, Various Artists)
>2: Detwelvulate! (2005, Ivor Darreg)
>3: Maнipнa Myзикa (1990, Цyкop Бiлa Cмepть)
>4: ᐊᐅᓪᓚᔨᒡᒋᓚᑎᑦ ᓱᒃᑯᐊᑉᐱᐅᕙᓪᓚᐅᒐᓄᒃ (1981, ᑐᒪᓯ ᑯᕐᐃᓴ)
>5: Music for Tuning Forks (1987, Warren Burt)
>>7732662
The closest /lit/ equivalent to discussing some unknown band would be talking about self-published books. The music version might carry some brownie points, but the /lit/ version definitely doesn't.
>>7732706
In the current academic climate worshipping the canon is kind of contrarian.
>>7732706
What do you mean with that?
Can I upvote / gift Reddit Gold without having an account?
Who the fuck keeps reposting this? If you're going to post it, at least post the updated 2015 one.
>>7732290
What? Douglas Adams us shite and I was recommending a short and easy to read book that actually has relevance. You kill yourself if you like Douglas Adams, you filthy Redditor.
>You're really going to criticize someone who's reading at all? Surely having someone who actually likes to read is good enough?
why the fuck does reddit revere READING in itself
if you read trash it's absolutely no better than watching TV
some TV shows are probably more stimulating than many books even
This is what happens when you >read for the plot
>fiction
A patrician rises
>>7728713
How would one go about tackling this list with the assumption that they have never read any of the books in the list?
Obviously just going down the list would not be ideal. Handing Infinite Jest to an assumed-to-be novice wouod be suicidal.
Someone should sort this list into "reading levels" that would make progression easier.
>>7734361
There are a few other charts like that on the wiki, ones divided into "levels"
>>7732730
>Catcher in the Rye is bad because the characters are "annoying"
WHEN WILL THIS MEME DIE? FUCKING CONTRARIAN NORMIES CAN'T LIKE A BOOK WITHOUT RELATING TO THE MAIN CHARACTER
THIS OPINION LITERALLY TRIGGERS ME
>>7733402
because then they can say they read without having to read
>>7733991
Pretty reasonable desu
>>7732662
>>7732706
having read the classics is expected, the only thing you get cool points for here is this obscure scandanavian christian mysticist,that russian poet read in the original, this french medieval epic poem, that contemporary underground Argentinian surrealist playwright. It's the same shit with its own flavor. Saying you've read Dante doesn't get a "good for you hombre", it gets "how's your freshman year curriculum treating you?"
Try lurking these threads and seeing what's said about this top 100 list.
>>7734361
Well what are you interested in?
Any era? Genre?
>>7733292
>What? Douglas Adams us shite and I was recommending a short and easy to read book that actually has relevance. You kill yourself if you like Douglas Adams, you filthy Redditor.
i refuse to believe that you actually exist
>>7734523
>tfw you realize more people on this board has read IJ than the commedia
>>7734641
fuck infinite jest
>>7734651
just delete this board desu, it's fucking over
>>7734523
No, the things you listed get you ignored.
Reading a book takes investment so most play it safe and only popular books get discussed and you get good taste points for canon authors.
>>7734690
and whenever there's a meta thread people that's the main thing people complain about
Those comments actually triggered me.
based reddit finally killing this piece of shit board tbqh
>>7728713
Imgur has the worst online community I've ever seen, that including /b/, various non-english imageboards, reddit, facebook, otherkins, attentionwhores, bronies and other scum of the earth.
>>7728713
> Les Misérables not included
> Animal Farm included
You must the joking OP
>>7735008
but anon, it is regarded as pretty bad fiction by many.
>>7732730
>the count of monte cristo is boring
Jesus christ I can kind of understand hating difficult lit if you're too pleb to get it, but Monte Cristo is easy to read and thrilling from start to finish.
This is what happens when consumers are inundated with game of thrones type movie action/violence. Anything less than constant killings and action is "like cardboard."
>>7728713
Grapes of Wrath will never stop being funny.
These lists are completely useless because no matter what group you ask it's just the same old rundown of the classics with 0 visible group specific personality traits
>>7735122
yes, the count of monte cristo was one of the most exciting novels i've ever read, high adventure, mystery, romance, revenge...
srs question, where is the gita
>>7735195
Not true. /lit/ specifically seems to value a few authors and/or time periods over others.
Pynchon and Joyce are specifically mentioned pretty often around here compared to some other places, and really it seems that /lit/ doesn't like authors like Steinbeck or Mark Twain as much, early American literature stuff. /lit/ also seems to lean towards philosophy more than I usually see.
>>7728713
>Why would you make a list of 100 books based on a sample size of 138 people?
This guy evidently thinks this should have been a plebiscite.
So it would match every other public top 100.
>>7728713
I've read six
>1984
>The Great Gatsby
>The Hobbit
>Harry Potter
>Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
>Animal Farm
>>7728905
We could have more threads about subjectivity.
>>7735436
>I'm a theologian. I've studied morals and theology for over forty years. I understand why things that may seem similar are morally different.
>implying you can know
>implying morals aren't relative
>implying she's a slut
>implying god is real
Every time.
>>7735475
>>7735542
that's a great graph.
>>7735542
>all of the comments on that imgur thing and modern discourse in a nutshell
>>7735475
>morals are relative
Kill yourself.
>>7729989
>everything Richard Dawkins ever wrote
How predictable.
>self help books
>>7735607
That's the opposite of what I was saying.
>>7735195
This particular list is useless because it was created by anons submitting their three favorite books, and another anon creating a pivot table to give a count of each submitted book, the higher number given a higher place on the chart. This list IS subjective. It is a general gauge of what the people on here like, with a huge source of error being a large shitposter population. Also once you got past the first 25 in the 2015 list the variance between 25 and 100 was +/- 10.
That doesnt mean that some of the chart porn (especially the Chinese one) on the sticky isnt fantastic.
