Is this a accurate list of the best works in each of their mediums?
>books
>comics
>films
>TV series
>music
>videogames
go to /b/ this is not strictly literature.
The Sopranos? Really? You have seen the finale right?
Citizen Kane is great but overrated if you say it's the best.
The Beatles when you have Mozart, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, etc.. to choose from?
SMB3 is a classic but even Mario Kart is more enjoyable.
I don't know what comic that's supposed to be, and I don't know enough about comics to have an opinion about what the best is.
I can't fault you for Ulysses.
>The Beatles
>>7727018
>tchaikovsky
pleb
serious question, why are video games included as a medium? is there any justification?
revolver and a hard day's night > sgt pepper
chimes at midnight > kane
ulysses is competitive for best novel but not competitive for best work of literature
smb3 is a great choice
idgaf about the sopranos or maus
>>7726939
Maus is a graphic novel, which is distinct from a comic.
>music
That would probably be Tristan und Isolde.
>>7727090
it's a comic book. Graphic Novel makes you sound like a douche who orders his books fresh from the press right out of New York. Either be a snob and call them BDs, or speak English and say mangas or comic books. In Maus I'd prefer the former because of the neko ears, tits and large eyes.
>>7727147
you're screaming
>I've read Nietzsche's wikipedia page
>>7727029
Not remotely close. Fuck off.
>this thread is gonna be allowed to stay up
>>7726939
>maus
>good
this list honestly looks like it was made by someone in high school and just put what he thought was best without any regard to how communities come together and interpret as 'best' and is cocky enough to post it thinking it's accurate.
>>7726939
>Ulysses
Valourizes modernism and the stream of consciousness, as semi-mainstream conceptions of art tend to. Either go full classic and pick something like War and Peace or Moby Dick, or play to the subversiveness and choose a successful, conventionally postmodern book like Gravity's Rainbow or The Recognitions or something like that.
>Maus
Obviously all comics are shit, and don't deserve to be acknowledged in a photoset where theatre and the visual arts, among others, are both ignored.
>The Sopranos
Yeah, it's good, but more importantly it begun an era of serial television dramas that includes shows like The Wire, Mad Men, and Breaking Bad, all of which are better.
>Citizen Kane
Unsubtle, baroque swill. Easily the most sophomoric of choices made here. If you're going to choose something classicist and 1930-1945 you should at the very least pick Casablanca.
>Sergeant Pepper
The Beatles are pretty mediocre. They mastered the formula of pop music, and that was it. They're the John Grisham of music. As real art, their later work was not bad, but all the popular stuff they did is pandering trash.
>Super Mario Bros. 3
There are a lot of people today who argue that video games have become an art form. I disagree with those people, but even they would say that the transition of video games from shit to gold happened eras after super mario bros. 3.
>>7727148
>Graphic Novel makes you sound like a douche who orders his books fresh from the press right out of New York
no, it makes you sound like a barnes and noble shopper
>>7727152
That's a weird insult. Wagner is pretty popular anong people who have never had any interest in Nietzsche, friend.
>>7727179
>[Graphic Novel] makes you sound like a barnes and noble shopper
no, it makes you sound like a 10th-grade English teacher trying to justify her masters in literature to herself while trying to make her syllabus appeal to shitty internet-age teenagers
>>7727147
It's excellent but it's also romantic era, i.e. dramatique bullshit. In the Opera category, I like Phillip Glass
>>7727178
>Breaking Bad better than The Sopranos
>>7726939
I don't know but Proust and Eisenstein should be in the book and film categories.
>>7727195
Why do people love The Sopranos?
It had 2 good seasons and then went total diarrhea.
>>7727202
Eisenstein set cinema back decades with montage shit
>>7727239
People unironically argue that about Postmodernism.
Sandman is by far the best comic series ever.
>>7727239
Shut up Mizoguchi
Shut up and hit your wife some more.
>>7727239
Montage is the only true filmic method of creating meaning, the metaphor of cinema. It's long take pseud shit like Tarkovsky that set cinema back decades.
>>7727432
Kill yourself my man. It's the most entry and lazy of techniques for those unwilling to be creative in their shooting.
>>7727239
>>7727491
>Montage is comprehensible, therefore montage is unintellectual
Pseud morons.
>>7727195
>Breaking Bad not better than The Sopranos
>>7727491
It wasn't entry or lazy when Eisenstein used it. Abel Gance was the only one to use it before Eisenstein.
>>7726939
>smb3
How about no
>>7727504
>pseud moron
>likes Breaking Pleb
You're not in any position to judge who's a pseud, my friend.
>citizen k
>super mario bros
Pls go.
>>7726939
>ulysses
maybe best novel, but i'd go with maybe shakespeare or homer
>maus
not an expert in comics, but i do like maus.
>sopranos
no way. really good, but the wire was better and that's just for HBO. sopranos gets a little too much praise because it started an entire new movement on TV and it was the only think like it at the time.
>citizen kane
certainly great
>sgt. pepper
best beatles album? sure. best music of all time? please. beethoven, mozart, debussy, etc.
>mario 3
best mario and top 5 for sure, but tetris is the best game of all time. it's perfect.
holy shit dude, if you want to look sophisticated so bad just go and buy yourself a suit with leather elbows, a pipe or some other shit like that
>Moby-Dick
>comics are shit
>The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly is literally the greatest film of all time, the closest possible contender is Lawrence of Arabia
>Mad Men
>Something classical
>Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater is literally the greatest video game of all time
>>7727646
>debussy
>programme music
>best
Debussy doesnt deserve a spot with the greats, he's a programme music writing pleb
>claire de lune
>more like claire de puke
There are at least 10 other orchestral composers better than him
>>7727181
think about it this way
what is higher
the probability of someone on a literature and philosophy board reading Nietzsche's wiki page
or
Someone on this board who's listened to tristan and isolde and thinks its better than the hundreds of thousands of classical music pieces available
also
>not reading Schopenhauer's page and touting Nuremberg as Wagner's best piece
>being a lazy pseud
pick two
>>7726939
>choosing Sgt Pepper's as the best piece of music ever
That's some advanced retardation right there.
>>7727182
I never played this as a kid (parents were poor and couldn't afford a console for a while my first console was a PS2) but in college my friends made me wanna play it so i got an N64 and a copy off ebay. I literally couldn't bring myself to finish the tutorial it was so fucking bad.
>>7727676
>not The Seventh Seal
You got good taste in film but I disagree
>>7728008
>shadow of the colossus
>not ADOM or BOF4
>>7727203
season 1 Sopranos was perfection though, and BB turned into a slog season 5
The fact that so many books still name The Beatles...
>>7727956
Haven't seen it yet, will definitely have to check it out soon.
>>7726939
>maus
You fucking dirty pleb
>not plan escape torment
>not wuthering heights
>not almost anything by Kate bush
>not breaking bad
>comics
>not seventh seal
All this classical music
>Beethoovon, bach, the list goes on and on!
Hilarious tb h
>>7728289
>not wuthering heights
Don't mind me, just here to point out your absolutely patrician taste.
>>7727178
>well that settles it then
>>7728289
>Wuthering Heights
>better than Ulysses
Shiggy
>>7727127
This. It's a class thing, like Alan Moore said :porn for plebs, erotica for the elite. It's the same crap
>>7726939
Let's just ignore the premise that you could and should crown a glorious best these aren't even considered the best by their communities.
>books
Brothers Karamazov
>comics
Persepolis or Le Lotus Bleu for western
JJBA : Steel Ball Run for mangas
>films
Aguirre, der Zorn Gottes or Persona
>tv series
>tv
either The Wire, Twin Peaks or Oz
>music
Chief Keef - Almighty So or Nico - Desert Shore
>videogames
MGS
There is no objective best in any medium
Ulysses
Sandman
Twin peaks
Pulp fiction
Beethoven moonlight sonata
Mgs2 or dark souls, I can't decide
>>7730403
you're such a pretentious pseud
>>7727090
It's not even a graphic novel in the pure sense. It was serialised as a comic publication
>>7726939
Sgt. Peppers isn't even the best Beatles album, you pleb.
There are at least 2 better HBO shows than The Sopranos
And Citizen Kane isn't even Welles' best.
>>7727089
Abbey Road and the White Album are better than those three tho. Even Rubber Soul is on par with Revolver.
If not Ulysses, what do you consider the greatest literary achievement?/Genuinely curious.
>>7729923
>Steel Ball Run
My nigga. Thought Stone Ocean is a great contender. SBR develops some themes that started in part 6, after all.
>>7727084
What about interactive media inherently excludes it from the realm of art?
>>7726939
>Paradise Lost, Ulysses or Don Quixote
>Watchmen or Maus probably, they're memes for a reason
>7 Samurai, 7th Seal
>Mad Men and House of Cards for Drama, Seinfeld for comedy
>really hard, but Bach's Brandenburgische Konzerte and Beethooven's 9th are my initial picks
>Ago of Empires II.
>>7727018
>implying you're not too plen for the finale
It's literally the best finale of any TV series ever
>>7726939
>A Hundred Years Of Solitude
>Watchmen
>Ok I'm gonna get shit on for this but here goes : LOTR
>The Wire
>I'm partial to Rachmaninoff.
>Dragon Age : Origins is perfection in videogame form.
>>7730566
>LOTR
ayy
>Dragon Age : Origins
AYY
>>7730582
Heh. I knew it, but at least I didn't lie.
The best movie ever is Persona. Citizen Kane is not cinema
>>7730479
http://ludix.com/moriarty/apology.html
>>7726939
>Beatles
Really an uninteresting, bland band.
It's also not Citizen Kane.
Objectively correct response here lads, you don't have to try anymore.
>>7734086
close enough
>>7734086
t. high school
>>7734086
>Luzifers Abschied
mein nigga
>>7730485
Probably the best here desu.
>>7734086
This one's pretty good too.
>>7726939
Maus could stand on Swamp Thing's shit and not sink in
>>7726939
so in other words literature is the only worthwhile medium?
>>7730623
Persona sucks. It honestly doesnt seem like Bergman, especially the beginning, it is straight out of 'first year film student at experimental art school'. The rest of the movie just devolves into melodrama.
Seventh Seal and Through a Glass Darkly are his best
>Ladies and gentleplebs... The Boobles!!
>not Handel
>not Wagner
>not Bach
>not Beethoven
what a fucking pleb
>Film
Amadeus
Scenes from a Marriage
Fanny and Alexander
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
>TV
The Office (UK)
The Wire
>Video Games
Mount and Blade: Warband
Deus Ex
>>7734175
I thought the assumption was that art music wasn't included and it was supposed to be popular albums.
>>7734191
Fanny and Alexander was a TV show, ya dip.
>>7734201
Well then obviously I'm talking about the film version
>>7734175
slow down great great great grandpa. no one listens to that music anymore
>>7734211
The film is an edited version of the TV series. If you cut Infinite Jest to a few pages and called it a pamphlet would it really be a pamphlet?
>>7734242
That's a terrible comparison but yeah, pretty much
>>7727646
>best mario and top 5 for sure, but tetris is the best game of all time. it's perfect.
that's like saying the stick is the perfect weapon
>>7734299
Are you implying it isn't
>>7734113
nice criticism friendo.
