Are there any good books with zero allusions whatsoever? Where you don't need to know anything about other books/art/movements etc to fully understand it?
you don't really need to know what all the allusions are to understand a book.
The Epic of Gilgamesh
>>7718357
top kek.
>>7718341
Huckleberry Finn is the best novel I know of with the least literary allusions. In poetry, Wordsworth's is the most primordial at its best, though it's not suited for people who dislike solitude or other people who enjoy it. Whitman too, though he will always stir the wrath and rancor of bitches who moralize against overt egotism, and bastards who can't stand magnificence unless it's of the military kind.
>>7719039
Pilgrim's Progress? the whole section about the Duke and the Dauphin?
>>7718357
Love this Start With The Mesopotamians meme
>>7718341
The allusion is the cornerstone of all top-tier literature.
>>7719132
more like a crutch t b h
>>7719135
Joyce...top tier...almost constant allusions
Pinecone...top tier...allusions allusions allusions
>>7719155
>pinecone
>top tier
>>7719155
Joyce had unreal command of the language to back his shit up
He could've wrote without allusions and it'd still be good.
>>7719155
proust doesn't need to rely on allusions for his shit, also balzac is not an allusion rustler, seems like the french are able to write without having to raid the canon for trivia
>>7718341
there is no such thing as no allusions and even if you think something has no allusions it's only because you're so used to to the allusions used in the work that you're blind to them
also note my grammatically correct use of "to to" in above sentence
>>7719303
>Proust
Swann's Way alone has quite a few Philosophy and Opera libretto allusions.
>>7719310
thats not grammatically correct u shitty pleb
>>7719315
not much compared to shitty trivia mongers like joyce, the main points of swann's way stand on their own, meanwhile the whole fucking book of ulysses is a homer allusion
Its 2016 trite bible allusions just won't cut it anymore if you want to be the best otherwise its little better than a pop culture reference aka meme
>>7719329
work on your prose
>>7719317
gimme a grammatically correct version then
>>7718341
That's impossible, because there's inherent intertextuality in how a text relates to the language it's written in, as well as your own experience of reality.
>>7718357
This comes close, but although virtually no work of literature precedes this one, an understanding of comparative mythology will greatly enhance your reading of it, to grasp how it relates to and sets the foundation for the whole western canon.
A more truthful answer would probably be somethibg extremely abstract, but written in plain language, that actually needs no point of reference outside of itself. "Fully understand" also implies the content of the boom leaves little space for interpretation. Closest I can think of is a book of introduction to mathematics or logic.
John Livingston Seagull
