I'm 3000 words into a deconstruction of Captain Planet featuring Milo Yiannopoulos and #BlackLivesMatters. What do you think? Potential to be good? I'm writing it while drunk so I have no inhibitions as it's very edgy. I don't think most people could handle what I've written so far.
>>7706859
could be interesting if you know what deconstruction is and that you got the word order wrong in your first sentence. it's probably not though, and you're just writing fan fic not deconstruction like the word order currently implies.
It's not a fanfic as I've changed the names. There is no Captain Planet. There is only Captain Death, a weapon of mass destruction.
I modelled the first episode of the story but ended up changing it completely. For example, four heroes are summoned instead of five.
Gaia has a retainer. Only one preceeding planeteer is left alive as "the others died". She's introduced as a school age girl who dark bags under her eyes and a drinking problem. She has the power to knock people unconscious.
The fire ring user is a feminist who burns a rapist to death. The rapist said to her, "I'm going to rape you, then make you sign a consent form. Then the rape will be consensual."
>>7706907
yup it's fanfic and you don't know what deconstruction means. there's one board specific rule and that is no fanfic. you're going to have to go read derrida.
>>7706931
I know what deconstruction means. I study tropes and actively seek out works of fiction that are genre deconstructions.
>>7707042
nope. swing and a miss.
>>7707042
>I study tropes
lmao
Fuck off to tvtropes and stay there, kid. Reading your shitty website isn't "studying".
>>7707059
What's your qualifications? Part of understanding something is studying the examples of fiction and literature, which I've done. So where have I swung and missed? It's good that you pointed me in the right direction, but stop mocking me. If we were going for beers, you'd talk to me as an equal.
>>7707059
Tropes are legit, but OP isn't.
>>7707097
no they're both structuralist which was btfo by deconstruction. OP's reking himself harder than levi-strauss did lmao
>>7707089
Are you saying you study them in some sort of academic setting? Or are you just talking about reading tvtropes pages online?
>>7707114
No, not academic. Although it's superior to anything I was ever taught in school. Color theory; cast calculus; sliding scales of evil; various indexes.
Do you all hate TV Tropes because of partisanship or some other reason? I appreciate the criticisms... though it would help me if people who know more than I do pointed me in the right direction.
I was never taught "deconstruction" in school. I've never learned it anywhere else. No one I've spoken to knows what "deconstruction" is. What is a single man suppose to do?
Am I to be arrogant about all of this? I think not.
Go ahead and throw your stones at me if it gives you your jollies. Go ahead and give me your best shot.
Maybe its a sad thing that the school system has failed me. Isn't that a sad thing?
>>7707157
Deconstruction is a reaction to structuralism, which is why some of its followers had been previously been structualists. It points out the flaw in structuralism's premise that it somehow be placed outside the grand narrative which it wants everything else to be subsumed. This lecture is a good introduction, but you might want to go back in the series to learn about structuralism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np72VPguqeI
You are an arrogant fanfic writing plen. Read the rules.
>>7707111
That's like saying modern society was destroyed by Marxism...
>>7707157
The school system is a joke, but you're even more of one if you seriously think TVtropes actually has anything of value on it. The "articles" there are written and edited by bored kids and neckbeards who watch anime all day long. No one on it actually knows what things like "deconstruction" are. They just saw a wikipedia entry of the words and thought it applied to their chinese cartoons or some shit.
>>7707190
Do you mean the modern period or current society? Either way I wouldn't say that, since Marx didn't hurt modernism all that much, it just resulted in some hilarious things and helped flourish some very fruitful errors where there were errors.
Your comparison is wrong, and your understanding of Derrida flawed.
>>7707203
Eva isn't a deconstruction of the robot mecha genre?
Madoka isn't a deconstruction of the magical girl genre?
Are you a retarded lit snob? Explain yourself.
>>7707187
I'm almost 10 minutes into this and he hasn't said a single thing of value. How does this man even get paid to teach? When does he talk about something useful other than cursive complicated circumlocutions of nonsense?
Here's a transcript:
>… I think probably in the context of this nature… >nevertheless fascinating but will never occur…
>… now you’ve read some Deridie… you’ve found >it difficult, indeed, you’ve thought “Why does he >have to write like that?”… isn’t he making it more >difficult than it needs to be…
>… why doesn’t he say one thing that he means? >It’s all deliberate on his part
>… deconstruction is an evasive dance that one >doesn’t settle for distinct positions… an idea that >can be understood as governed by a blanket >term… what is often called a transcedental >signifie…. crab-like size-ways way around an >arguement… all it can to avoid seeemingly to >avoid… definite concept.. deconstruction is >deconstruction of the grounds that our thinking >can be derived from one definite concept…
>>7707257
Like... what the fuck
> Let me remind us that we’ve been doing deconstruction and what’s been problematic in derida has been explained.
>Let’s begin with a warmup sheet which we can anchor in these drawings I’ve made.
> You look at these drawings and go aha that’s the vertical axis and once we get to feminism feminism has its own ideas of the vertical axis
> In the mean time the Eiffel tower shows how the vertical axis is vertical.
>>7707214
I've never seen whatever the fuck those are, but what you and your pals call a "deconstruction" is a subversion. They're not the same thing. Stop whacking off to your made up definitions of things you don't actually understand.
>>7707270
Subversion... as in?
>Basically, this is playing bait and switch with a trope. A work makes you think a trope is going to happen, but it doesn't.
Is that right?
>>7707257
>misspells derrida
>it's even in the subtitles spelt right
>thinks this proves he's better at deconstruction than a professor
remember when i called you arrogant? add dumb to that.
>>7707276
No. Not in the slightest. Nothing on that site is right. If you ever plan on not being a retard you should stop using it. It's rotting your brain.
>>7707257
>Deridie
Anyway you came to the wrong place buddy
>>7707214
w e w
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pls be b8
>>7707292
>>7707306
So far /lit/ has offered nothing of value other than two pieces of advice.
1) Derrida.
2) Youtube video.
3) Everything else is shit.
Maybe this is the wrong place. Thanks for the help, I guess... wish I had more to go on other than Derrida and Derrida. It's kind of shit if you have no practical examples of provide other than "Derrida" as he doesn't even have any practical examples to provide. Give me more than this.
>>7707363
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deconstruction
Fuck's sake it's not hard
>>7707363
Derrida was a French philosopher who initially came up with deconstruction. Unless you understand his philosophy, you're not going to understand the concept at all. I'm sorry that TVtropes has made you retarded, but in the real world you have to understand things without laundry lists of "examples" of them.
>>7707378
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deconstruction
I'm out.
is this outflow from reddit? threads were never this pleb. captain planet, eva, and madoka.
wtf.
>>7706859
Post us a sample
>>7707363
>I was wrong and /lit/ spoonfed me like it was spoonfeeding
>b-but I just wanted to write fanfiction on a board it's b&
>b-but my mom says i'm s-smart
What did you expect? Even Derrida writes better potential fan fiction than you. You could read Barthes if you need a picture book to understand the concept of deconstruction before namedropping it, I guess.
>>7707466
I'm now imagining a porno about Hegel --and-- Heidegger.
>>7707478
I imagine Derrida attempting to not direct them.
>>7706931
>you're going to have to go read derrida.
Worst advice.
>>7707537
Do you have more apt punishment for trying to align yourself with deconstruction?
>>7707598
kekekkekekeke good things have come of this thread. derrida should be a production credit not a director
>>7707619
Could have made the whole thing better. Im hoping someone comes a long and does a better job
>>7707626
i commend your twenty hours in ms paint regardless; it's probably the most use you'll get from your philosophy degree
>>7707598
Can we get some Captain Planet in there?
>>7707157
YOU USED THE WRONG "ITS" FAGGOT
SCHOOL SYSTEM AND PERSONAL STUDIES CONFIRMED SHIT
>>7707598
Bravo, anon. Bravo.
Redpill me on deconstruction
>>7707711
>it's just repetition and pastiche
kekekekkekeke nice dubdubs tho
