IMO the three greatest writers alive are American: Gene Wolfe, Thomas Pynchon and Philip Roth.
Why haven't you won the Nobel Prize for so long?
>>7695495
>Philip Roth
overrated AF. imo his success is attributable to the semitic proclivity to advance one's kind before others
>>7695505
this desu
>>7695495
>Pinecone
>still alivewew
>>7695523
'pynchon' was never a single person but a committee of Chinese psyops agents aiming to subvert the west through cultural marxist agitprop
>>7695545
How come the Borgesian conspirators writing the histories of Ubqar haven't been discovered, then?
>>7695495
>Thomas Pynchon
lmao
>>7695516
>>7695529
>people believing that a statement of fact about Semitic Jews' tendency to advance those they believe to be "of their race" before "gentiles" is "hate-speech"
Your lack of critical ability is showing. Watch "Homicide" by David Mamet if you want to know the difference between hating Jews and understanding Jews
>>7695545
Fuck this. Do people actually believe this?
William Gaddis left a lot of writings to Don Delillo and he just edited those works. Gaddis asked him in his d ath bed to use a pen name because those where a little more experimental than his other works.
That's why V and Recognitions have so many things in common.
>>7695505
But I thought he was a self-hating Jew?
>>7695505
Jews hate him you raging faggot.
>>7695582
Still, he's fucking amazing.
Someone said here that Sabbath's Theater was his weakest novel and still I loved it.
That means Operation Shylock is going to be massive.
>>7695495
Highly unlikely they'd give a Nobel to Pynchon when his most recent books are Bleeding Edge and Inherent Vice.
>>7695495
You forgot to include McCarthy and Oates in your little list there.
>>7695703
DeLilo or Mccarthy will win Nobel before Pynchon would
>>7695495
Literally none of you have my read diary desu
>>7695495
fuck the nobel tho. it has nothing to do with writing by now, it's a recognition for outstanding service to the jewlluminati globalist elite
>>7695505
Isn't the Nobel Prize another kike scheme?
>>7695495
horrible taste
>>7695505
Firstly, American Pastoral and Sabbaths Theater are about as good as American /lit/ gets.
Secondly, I cannot think of an individual who has done less good for his own people than Roth. He has made American Jews look like a /pol/ stereotype except even more depraved.
>>7695582
Yes I'm sure the elders of zion want American Jews to be represented by Mickey Sabbath masturbating over the grave of his dead gentile lover.
Retard.
>any living american author being worthy of the Nobel
>>7697068
jk rowling is good. she made harry potter and the prisoner of azkaban.
>>7697076
Good post.
>>7697076
Isn't she British?
>>7697068
What do you even mean. The Nobel isnt about body of work or quality of work, its about moving literature forward in an "ideal" directionsubjective ideal re:by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, the Swedish Academy, the Karolinska Institute, and the Norwegian Nobel Committee
In that sense Ta-Nehisi Coates deserves it far more than McCarthy or Pynchon
The nobel is a joke.
Are you a leftist?
If yes, you are elegible
Did you write a book about how people are horrible?
If yes, you are a nominee
Do you come from a country with a middle to low GDP per capita?
If yes, you just increased your chances of winning by 20%
This is how Gabriel Garcia Marquez won and this is the reason Yukio Mishima and Borges didn't and Pynchon won't
>>7697085
I think he was talking about stephenie meyer.
>>7697089
I thought Svetlana Alexeivich's work was really good and different, but I cannot for the life of me understand why she got it over, say T'hiungo or something. Shes a Belorussian Lesbian, I guess thats enough.
>>7697089
Pynchon is a leftist, and Borges was from poorfag spic country
The National Book Award has been granted to better works than the Nobel.
Discuss.
>>7697102
1990: Saul Bellow
1998: John Updike
2000: Ray Bradbury
2001: Arthur Miller
2002: Philip Roth
2004: Judy Blume
2005: Norman Mailer
2009: Gore Vidal
2010: Tom Wolfe
2013: E. L. Doctorow[39]
2014: Ursula Le Guin[40][41]
2015: Don DeLillo[42]
I dont think its much of a discussion.
Oprah got it tho, so thats a big blow to your point.
>>7697100
Borges and Pynchon never wrote about massacres and concentration camps or refugees.
They just made metaphors of philosophic ideas. Vineland is the most political Pynchon but giving him a nobel for that book is like giving DFW a no el for Infinite Jest.
The closest to win it is Delillo for Mao II.
>>7697102
lol
you're retarded
>>7697112
>Borges and Pynchon never wrote about massacres and concentration camps or refugees
>chapter in V. focusing on character in a German colony that imprisons and massacres africans
>section in Gravity's Rainbow follows character forced to work for nazis while his daughter is in a prison camp
>borges story "Deutches Requiem" narrated by nazi commander of concentration camp
sounds like you don't know what you're talkin about, bud
The nobel isn't just "good writer award", the novels have to embody specific traits, like humanism and so on. I fucking laugh whenever a nabokovfag bitches about it.
>>7697089
Wasn't Faulkner reactionary?
>>7697112
Have you even read GR.
Book has some of the most hateful things about America I've ever read
>>7698065
thomas cuckchon
>>7698114
He uses the word cuckold in the first chapter of V. and there is some whorehouse or something in GR that has 'Kuk' or something in the name. Someone else probably knows what it was
>>7697106
Bellow got that Nobel too tho shorr
Can this thread get even worse?
I never undestood why /lit/ consider Pynchon the greatest alive while the whole press and academy consider Roth.
Probably because /lit/ is full of pretentious teens that think they are smarter for liking a "difficult" book.
As for Wolfe, I consider him great, but he still writes genre fiction, so I don't think they'll ever give this prize for him.
Albee
Ashbery
Searle
There needs to be some sort of filter that makes autists from /pol/ incapable of posting here. They have absolutely nothing to say expect the usual pants on head retarded stormfag and fox news slurry that impotently drips out of their mouth-anuses.
>>7700194
Or maybe you need to develop a mental filter that will allow you to skim over posts you find disagreeable without being reduced to tears.
>>7695505
when did /lit/ become infested with all of these /pol/ fags?
>>7697041
American Pastoral doesn't even deserve its title. It should be called "Jewish Pastoral."
>>7697089
why are conservatives always complaining about their degenerate belief system not being represented? no one wants to give awards to people who want to regress society.
>>7697098
well the nobel selection is completely subjective, so they may have just liked her better.
>>7695505
These /pol/ memes really need to stop.
>>7698065
welll it is easy to hate on the USA when you consider our history.
>>7700226
>tears
Yeah, sure kid. People aren't laughing, they're involuntarily spasming because you've saddened them.
>>7700194
thats what i am saying. it seems like this board is going down hill. i think they come over to /lit/ just to shitpost since you cant discuss politics on this board any more.
>>7700249
1/10, I replied but only to say that the chance you actually read it and seriously have that opinion is nil.
>>7700450
I'm 200 pages in. It's on my desk right now. I'm not much of a fan of Jewish Pastoral desu.
>>7700268
>want to regress society
>CONSERVatives
kek. normalfags get BTFO'd
>>7701476
/lit/ is a liberal board despite the /pol/ invasion.
>>7695495
Correction: the greatest living writers are William Gass, Joseph McElroy, and Julian Rios.
>>7703538
>Julian Rios
Who's that? Most of the Google results are porn pages.
Coover and Barth probably deserve to be mentioned alongside Gass and McElroy.
>>7703581
>Coover and Barth probably deserve to be mentioned alongside Gass and McElroy.
Also, Harry Mathews is an underrated experimentalist. I think he's the only American member of Oulipo.
>>7703581
He's essentially the Spanish Joyce, and that's not an overstatement. If you want to get into him, I recommend starting with Larva: a Midsummer Night's Babel. And I agree about Barth and Coover, but I was trying to stick to the amount of authors OP listed.
>>7700243
When you arrived here from Reddit.
