>I listen to Beethoven while reading/writing
Listening to any complex music that requires the full attention of the listener for complete appreciation whilst reading is waste. Neither you appreciate the book fully, nor you notice the subtleties, for example as in OP, Beethoven.
>>7692577
How about for writing?
>>7692573
I listen to music that I've heard a million times before this ranges from folk to Rachmaninoff. I need that beautiful white noise to separate my ears from the outside world so my eyes can focus on the page and not on the world around me.
I listen to Godspeed You! Black Emperor when reading
>>7692584
Sometimes when I write and have no ideas it helps listening to music I like and pacing through my room. Sometimes even when I'm writing paragraphs I listen to something nice to give me energy and keep me focused.
For reading? Dead silence.
For writing? Depends on the mood of the scene, but if nothing else works then dead silence.
i listen to classical music while reading because i live in a dorm where retards are making noise all the time thinking they finally achieved their freedom from their parents.
>listening to anything but Brian Eno while reading
>>7692766
I listen to the ambient tracks of Low and "Heroes". Does that count?
>>7692766
i listen to talking heads albums that brian eno produced. does that count?
Bach is best for Mathematics. I often need something to block out the talking/shouting/slamming/etc. While I feel bad for reducing the greats to muzak, I find it easier to concentrate with baroque than random noises.
>>7692823
shut up bitch
>>7692577
This so much. Currently minoring in Musicology. Plebs abusing classical music as background noise makes me furious.
>>7692766
>listening to backpackbient while reading his memes
>>7693045
I do it all the time. I suck at classical music, know nothing about it, I exclusively hear it to appear sophisticated and feel good about myself.:^)You're the bigger clown for minoring in musicology
>>7693045
Classical music has been used as background music since it's invention. The idea that you need to sit still and listen intently and with all your concentration like you're taking a giant shit is a modern invention and the king of bourgeois spooks. I'll use Beethoven's scores to wipe my ass if I so incline.
>>7693052
>You're stupid for minoring in something that you love, while majoring in something that will get you a job:^)
>>7693045
Pretty much this. My local train station now sometimes plays classical music in the mornings which, despite being irritating as fuck if you just want to wait in peace, is clearly only being done because "muh calming classical music". It's not a fucking commodity. Fuck.
>>7693065
It's okay if that's the best you can do to appreciate the music anon.
>>7693065
>Classical music has been used as background music since it's invention
Maybe true for Baroque music, Classical chamber music to some degree. But at least from the Romantic era onwards, you were supposed to actually listen carefully
>The idea that you need to sit still and listen intently
No you're supposed to read the score while listening if you want to learn something
>>7693065
Why not both
>>7693078
>Reasonable balanced opinion
>On the Internet
Shhhhhhhh, you'll ruin everything
>>7693045
This is why people ignore classical music imo-- their listeners have to compensate this hard.
>I'm not a pleb because muh academia
>therefore only I can appreciate it
>yet the masses still make me angry
You're like an SJW of art
>>7693097
>therefore only I can appreciate it
No, but you just need a certain education to appreciate Art Music. In the same way that you need to have a certain knowledge about literature in order to understand certain books.
People are going around saying things like '[insert popular classical composer here] was a genius' without even understanding why. They only say that because it's the general consesus. And that's what makes me angry.
And I'm sorry, you're not going to be able to appriciate classical music to its full extend without knowing theory.
>>7693097
>You're like an SJW of art
I don't really know how this is comparable, care to elaborate?
>>7693116
What would you say is a good primer on the theory? I enjoy classical and similar music but I'm very ignorant on the theory.
>>7693120
I don't know too many entry-level books because I pretty much always had theory classes during high school, learned most of the basics there. I guess you could check out Music Theory in Practice by Eric Taylor. Should provide you with lots of basic info that you need to understand music.
>>7693116
You use your supposed status as a student like a badge to police others because that's the only way you know how to discipline yourself. I'm sure you can formulate that others on this board are students as well since it's /lit/ and that's all the more sad.
Also what do you play anon,
Piano student for over a decade here
>>7693045
I listen while I do my math and I can do both because I'm more intelligent than you. Hoho!
>>7693120
Primer yourself with Identifying Ideology first
>>7693076
>But at least from the Romantic era onwards, you were supposed to actually listen carefully
oh yea, I'm sure everyone was silent and autistically running their hands over the score listening to Liszt. you seem to have no concept of historicism and an inability to read.
>if you want to learn something
lol spoken like a school chump. art is to be enjoyed however one sees fit, flattening music into a moral or academic exercise is pathetic and a symptom of the modern academic industry's commodification of art music. i'll enjoy it while furiously whipping my dick to muted bara porn as wagner's parsifal blares
>>7693138
>I can do both
Heh, you probably actually think that. I bet you don't know shit about music.
Suppose a II. V. I. construction in C Major. Now execute a tritone substitution. With what chord will G7 be replaced?
>I read bae i' t'oven while listening to Beethoven
>>7693141
But he needs the aesthetic realism to properly tip his trilby m8
>>7693141
>I'm sure everyone was silent and autistically running their hands over the score listening to Liszt
Well, they probably weren't reading the score but they sure as hell were silent. People actually paid money to see him play his compositions and were absolutely mesmerized by his skill.
You're so uneducated, I don't think that there is any hope for you left.
>>7693153
While you're pulling that shit on a literature board, tell me which reactant is left over and how many molecules of it will remain unreacted if compound Q is 53.3% carbon, 11.1% hydrogen and the rest oxygen (by mass). Twenty molecules of Q contain precisely one thousand protons. A 15.3 mg of Q is reacted with 26.4 mg of oxygen.
>>7693171
Eh, I don't know, but at least I'm not claiming that I do, unlike you.
>>7693178
I'm not him. I'm the pianist poster that you're still too assblasted to reply to.
>>7693181
Well, then this wasn't directed towards you, assface
>>7693189
Still trying to deflect it in hopes of stomping lesser anons, I see.
You've done a great job at revealing yourself so far.
>>7693136
Piano for 9 years, Cello for 6 years
>since it's /lit/
>somebody makes a thread about music on /lit/
>gets pissed that people talk about music
>use your supposed status as a student like a badge to police others
I merely pointed out that you're not getting the full expirience if you do not know at least a bit of music theory. If you don't give a shit, fine, go ahead.
You happy now?
>>7692573
i guess i'm a pleb for listening to marin marais while reading.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrN0pqmwk-I
>>7692573
I listen to the Inception and The Fountain soundtrack
>>7692754
The only acceptable reading music
>>7693205
Not pissed at the music discussion; pissed that the young man thinks he's the authority. Especially when he uses what we both love as a weapon against others.
Piano 12 years and drums 3 here. There is a lifetime of learning ahead.
>>7693205
Were you pressured by your parents to do so
Do you resent them
this seems awfully bullshitty to me. I have to appreciate only the music? i can't look at a few paintings, or read a few chapters of a book while I listen to the Tempest? why? I genuinely don't understand why someone would be angry that someone listens to beethoven in a less concentrated way than someone else, as if they had sweat bled and wept over the very work itself. what's it to ya? it's no different than those angry plebs who don't want people to read at all if they're reading junk like twilight. who gives a shit? if they want to do it, let em!
>>7693116
He's kind of right. Music is its own language. Not that you're not allowed to appreciate it, but unless you learn to read it you'll probably just continue to misunderstand it. This is why most people dismiss it as pretentious nonsense.
Classical composition is not just mathematics in service of harmony, melody, rhythm, etc., but it woks similar to the way a work of literature dose. The composer sets out with an idea or problem in mind, and instead of describing or solving it with the use of metaphor, allegory, irony, etc., it's done through sound. If you can't read it, you can't appreciate it. And so you'll just stay mad.
And I thought drawfags were the dramaqueens
>>7693226
Thanx, any time
>>7693097
Is this an example of phenomenology?
Beethoven was a meme author, and had no discernible talent. He was shitposting, and is literally genre tier fiction. clearly a juvenile author.
>>7693229
how do I into classical music theory?
>this entire thread
I use this https://mynoise.net/noiseMachines.php
Grey or White noise are my favourites.
>>7692584
i listen to trout mask replica while writing, no joke
>>7693066
What's your major?
Listening to songs with lyrics is distracting. Beethoven is the best classical composer. Contemporary instrumental music is either complete shit or derivative of Beethoven.
>not listening to space electronic vibrations while writing
fuck yall plebs
>>7692760
I feel rather the opposite way about it. Music that isn't, how shall we put it, inspired by images (like a "pastoral" or something that's "meant to evoke an image in the mind's eye), which is to say, good music (Copland, if you'll recall, admonished against every associating pure music with image in the mind), helps me comprehend what I am reading with much greater clarity. Like Dark Side of the Rainbow, except no matter what I'm reading the music I'm listening to appears to compliment it in total conjunction. Again, if it's good music.
For writing, I must have as close to absolute silence as is reasonable. Otherwise I cannot properly sound the words in my mind
>>7694852
>You can major in specific programming languages now
Oh how we have fallen.
>>7693224
The point is that the kind of person who boasts that they listen to Beethoven while reading is likely doing it to come off as more intelligent than they are.
It's like saying they watch two movies at the same time. Sure, it's something you could do, but it would be odd to go out of your way to both do this and then tell otters that you do.
>>7692766
Ambient music that you've listened to 1000+ times is the best thing for concentration.
>>7694963
That isn't nearly as bad as the anon who thinks you can only listen to Beethoven if you're a musicologist
>>7695001
That's naturally untrue, but most people who aren't used to attentively listening to the structure of classical pieces won't be able to appreciate a large amount of classical music. It will take time for most people's mental abilities to be able to process it, even if you don't need to be able to name all the chord progressions.
>>7692577
Thank you
>>7693229
Is all art evaluated based on its representational value?
>>7692573
I tend to listen to Bach. Does that make me a fedora fag?
>>7695137
Not so much. It's specifically telling others that you do this with pride that marks you out as a faggot.
>>7692573
I get fucked up and listen to the 4th, 7th, and 9th sometimes.
For reading I do shitty mainstream EDM, IDM or drum and bass.
Normally I need total silence while reading, but because I have so many loud chromosome hoarding plebs in my study hall, silence simply isn't possible. The next best thing is to drown out that noise with white noise or classical music and it has worked fairly well so far.
>>7692573
Steve Reich is the only good reading music
Satie goes best with reading. And everything else really.
>>7693045
I agree except for Satie, whose music is often relaxing and sometimes is even meant as background ambience (i.e. his "musique d’ameublement")
Who /whitenoise/ here?
Music is too distracting for me, and my tinnitus is a bitch when reading.
>>7697006
White noise never helped my tinnitus, I don't know why but it always feel like the world is closing in on me when I listen to i; as if the walls are slowly moving nearer and nearer
