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>He read Nietzsche before Schopenhauer
schopenhauer -> nietzsche -> ???
WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP
>>7677306
Then you make your own custom philosophy for your personal use only.
>>7677306
aquinas
>>7677309
good idea
>>7677306
Henri Bergson
Guess this is as good a time as any. Hey /lit/ I'm brand new here, desu I've read only a little and could probably in no way participate in a discussion here. I came here though because I'm interested in getting into philosophy and philosophical books, if that's even the right term. Where should I start? And are there any books I should read before even getting into philosophy? Thanks, and I plan to start lurking here more in hopes to get other good literature Recs in general.
You read Kant first and then branch off into either one
>>7677309
>Being pleb enough to have to read nietzsche to do this.
A real man does this at birth.
>>7677342
>man
>>7677339
I'll also add, what is the board culture like here? I come from /tv/ (no judging) and it's an absolute shit hole, you can't take any opinion seriously because it's just someone trying to get a rise out of people. Also, no matter your taste, it's considered shit. Are people here generally more helpful and accepting, for lack of a better word?
>>7677348
In order to reach the divine sphere one must be a man or become a man. Just as Jesus and buddha was a man so is the nature of those that reach enlightenment. A true baby is born a man at birth.
>>7677306
>schopenhauer -> nietzsche ->
->heidegger->sartre->foucault->deleuze & guattari
>>7677360
>divine sphere
>for men
Where did you get this idea?
Jesus died a man.
Do you honestly think he reached the divine sphere when he was still alive?
>>7677306
return to the Greeks
>>7677339
The sticky should have everything you need.
If you're too lazy:
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/4chanlit/images/e/e2/1365475090228.jpg
Also make sure you know your greeks:
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/4chanlit/images/3/3f/Start_with_the_greeks.jpg
>>7677358
It's better. There shitposting is normally a bit more tolerable, and newfags can learn something from people who shit on their tastes. It's still 4chan, though. Don't expect anyone to hold your hand or respect your opinion.
Schopenhauer wasnt even that influential to Nietzsche. Darwin and Thoreaux were larger influences honestly.
>He read anyone before Thales
>>7677383
shit, that first link should be (if you're new to literature in general though that will still be of use to you):
http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading/Non-fiction
>>7677372
Personally I say just stop at schopenhauer.
>>7677372
>Identity derives from difference
Didnt Kant already say this way before Deleuze? I know someone did, I cannot remember who
>>7677304
>reading philosophy
>not just reading philosophical fiction
Covers all the same ground but is actually interesting to read and not some old guy talking at me
>>7677392
>Schopenhauer
>Not a major influence on Nietzsche
You must be joking.
>He read Schopenhauer before Kant
>He read Kant before Hume
>He read Hume before Berkeley
>He read Berkeley before Liebniz
>He read Liebniz before Descarte
>He read Descarte before Aquinas
>He read Aquinas before Augustine
>He read Augustine before Aristotle
>He read Aristotle before Plato
>He read Plato before Heraclitus
>He read Heraclitus before Zizek
Kek
>>7677380
Jesus was both mortal and immortal and as such he touched all the spheres. Just as buddha did. A true man is a god since birth.
>>7677409
Nietzsche will purge you of any impurity left.
Read all of Schopenhauers books before that happens.
>reading schopenhauer
he's a meme you dip
>>7677422
Jesus died on the cross m80
>>7677418
**nice meme**
>>7677418
>He read Berkeley before Leibniz
Berkeley should be replaced with Voltaire desu.
>>7677411
Yes, but he discussed the term with regards to a completely different context. So, it is non-applicable to this specific situation.
>>7677418
>He read the introduction included in Penguin editions of Schopenhauer
>>7677449
But we're listing philosophers here
>>7677473
Ah, I see.
>>7677418
>tfw I have this retarded urge to try and read all of philosophy chronologically
I know I'll never have the time, but it would be neat
>>7677415
>philosophy
>philosophical fiction
I beg to differ.
>>7677422
Now that you know you can only strive to understand how it is we do what we do.
>>7677523
Currently doing this. About to start Aristotle.
He read anything before the Greeks.
>>7677523
Here is a list from Plato to Kant that is perfectly achievable within a few years.
Plato - Apology, Euthyphro, Crito, Symposium, Phaedo, Republic.
Aristotle - Ethics, Politics, Poetry, Physics, Soul, Metaphysics.
St Augustine - Confessions, City of God.
St Anselm - Proslogion.
Edward Feser - Aquinas Introduction
St Aquinas - Shorter Summa.
Descartes - Discourse, Meditations.
Spinoza - Complete Works.
Leibniz - Essays, Monadology.
Locke - Essay.
Berkley - Dialogues, Principles.
Hume - Treatise, Enquiry.
Machiavelli - Essential Writings.
Hobbes - Leviathan.
Locke - Two Treatises.
Rousseau - Basic Political Writings, Emile.
Burke - Reflections.
Paine - Rights of Man, Common Sense, and Other Political Writings.
Bentham - Principles.
Mill - Utilitarianism, On Liberty.
Terry Pinkard - German Philosophy.
Frederick C. Beiser - German Idealism.
Howard Caygill - Kant Dictionary.
Kant - Lectures on Logic, Prolegomena, Critique (Pure), Metaphysics of Morals, Political Writings, Critique (Judgement).
>>7677339
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/pub
>>7678816
History of Philosophy is a huge waste of time.
>>7678846
No it isn't.
PLATO > ARISTOTLE
AUGUSTINE > AQUINAS
(MAYBE) LOCKE > DESCARTES > BERKELEY > HUME (READ AS MUCH OF "THESE" TYPES AS YOU CAN)
THE GLORY: KANT >HEGEL
Know you can read what ever you want
>>7677304
WRONG
schopenhauer-->stirner--->nietzsche
>>7679060
Sounds good.
>>7677304
>He read Schopenhauer
>>7677306
Adulthood.
>>7679060
Alternatively:
Schopenhauer -> Goethe -> Nietzsche
>>7677403
>he reads
>>7679122
Kek
