Will Japanese literature ever get better than this book?
>>7671531
Its a novel you cockmongler.
>>7671531
>wahh don't talk about novels on /lit/
kys
>>7671537
I don't understand why the S is in this. Yourself is a single word. Strange happenings lads.
>>7671546
Did you just discover the internet this week
>>7671515
i actually have this. got it cheap when i could
>>7671549
Would "I have never understood" appease your autism?
>>7671515
It's a fun quick read but it's not like it's a milestone of contemporary Japanese lit.Also the cartoon is better
>>7671515
>book
Ignoring books, there's even LN better than it. Try again.
>>7671643
There aren't
Is this a good read? I've only watched the anime but it was very touching and stylish.
For sad Jap book see: No Longer Human, Osamu Dazai. I was looking for another book of his called The Setting Sun, but I never find it in my bookstores.
>>7671515
the anime is better. the book is mostly some guy whining.
>>7672553
get out of here you smelly weeb lord.
>>7672574
I smell like Sakura Blossoms thank you very much senpai.
>>7672568
So the Japanese Catcher in the Rye?
>>7672553
>using the disgusting chink word when you could type out Grorious Nippon
Commit sudoku faggot
>>7671515
Master of Go OP
Read it
>>7671515
It has, familia.
>>7672704
>tfw its on my shortlist
I cant wait.
>>7671519
why is he making a christogram
>>7671515
Ummm...yes?
>>7672807
>its triggers me
The Tokypop translation is pretty shite but overall the book is a really effective, bleak tale of isolation, loneliness, and bitter self-hatred.
Also, the anime is pretty good too.
>>7672777
You won't regret it
>All that people saying the light novel was better
>All that people saying the anime was better
The manga is the best option, they butcher things in the anime and the light novel prose is horrible for anyone with a little taste.
This way you get the best from both worlds.
>>7671645
There are.
>>7673157
What do they butcher? And do you speak japanese?
>>7671519
What is this
>tfw no Misaki gf
>>7671515
Read some Soseki.
Japanese literature peaked with Ryukishi07
>>7673347
Strange way to write Project Itoh.
>>7673157
Anime has the better soundtrack though
>>7673434
true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ei2izPLpHc
>>7673453
I honestly cant get into Mishima. Idk what it is. I love Murakami, I love Kokoro and No Longer Human so I enjoy Japanese Lit but idk Mishima hasnt clicked yet. His writing is very pretty and I like his ongoing descriptions but idk.
>>7673500
Just give it some time and thought?
the anime was good until the 10/10 girl came out of fucking nowhere and dedicated herself to pulling him out of his sweaty pit of apathy and self-loathing
>>7673570
w-why hasn't it happened to me yet? ;_;
I want to fug Misaki.
>>7673570
nerds have fantasies too
>>7672528
Setting Sun is great, keep looking.
>>7672553
japan is just a corruption of the chinese to malay pirates to english sailors playing chinese whispers. it all means people of the sun. you know, because they believe the sun is literally their ancestor. jap or nip isnt derogatory in anyway. it still means sun people, the name they chose for themselves.
>>7673785
no it means the sun comes from there
because the east
idiot
Even Murakami is better than any light novel
>>7673791
I forgive you for being retarded.
>>7671515
That isn't akutagawa ryunosuke. Jigokuhen and kumo no ito are based
>>7671519
I think the most appropriate reply is to tell you to eat shit and die
>>7672553
ANIME IS LIFE ANIME IS LOVE
I LOVE ANIMEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Dazai is actually pretty shit.
>>7672553
The most normie thing you can do is get upset when people use horribly outdated slurs like Jap completely inoffensively.
>>7672807
>Additionally, the prose in OP's title is beyond abysmal. The man simply can't write. It isn't literature.
It's been said that NHK had a faulty translation.
Also fuck you, /lit/ doesn't have to be pseudo intellectual all the time, LN threads are just as valid as Sci-fi/Fantasy threads.
>>7671515
Yes, you just need to start reading outside your comfort zone.
>>7673570
so pretty much 1/8th of the anime was good?
>>7671546
>KYS
>'ki' 'yu' ss'
It has all the syllables of "kill yourself". ''ks'' on it's own isn;t as provacative/memorable as using all three letters.
>>7671515
no
which is sad since nhk isn't even that good
>>7673442
so glad I saved it before it got hit with copyright
>>7673570
Did you watch it all?She's more fucked up than Satou is.
>>7671515
I liked Goodnight Punpun better.
>>7671515
Yup.
>>7674562
>Also fuck you, /lit/ doesn't have to be pseudo intellectual all the time, LN threads are just as valid as Sci-fi/Fantasy threads.
Hi, sorry for the late response.
You fail to understand.
This thread is literally against the global board rules.
http://www.4chan.org/rules
/jp/ - Otaku Culture
2. This is the appropriate board for the discussion of Japanese visual novels and light novels. Western visual novels should be posted to /vg/, and translated visual novels are fine on either board.
This thread is a bannable offense. It has no discernible value. Please leave.
>>7678564
It don't mention that is against the rules of /lit/ either, fanfic is a baneable offense and we have threads about paradise lost.
Get your head out of your ass, senpai.
>>7678564
>against global board rules
>quotes a board specific rule
>>7678564
That's talking about the untranslated ones. Plenty of LNs in English which are no different from books.
>>7671515
Yea a light novel thread is no different than a Harry Potter thread. Usually I'd be on the sage train but >>purupurupururin
>>7671515
I liked the story but the prose is garbage but I should have expected that given that it's a "light novel", which is practically a published version of a blog post from what little I've experienced.
Anime had feet tapping opening music though. 10/10 will get hurt again
>>7678564
Hey, sorry for the late reply.
You fail to comprehend.
This thread literally is in line with the global board rules.
http://www.4chan.org/rules
/lit/ - Literature
All literature discussion is welcome, however fan-fic is not allowed.
This thread is not a bannable offense, and has generated discussion outside of your bitching and moaning. Please get a life.
I loved the anime when i was 16 but then i grew up. I'm not surprised the anime-related thread is the most degenerate, kudos to those in here fighting the good fight against the plague
>>7671515
Pic related is better.
>>7671645
Hakomari.
>>7680780
Please tell me that the translation is at least ok.
>>7672805
I wish people wouldn't recommend this one so often. It's good but Confessions of a Mask feels like a much more reasonable starting place for Mishima. It's earlier in his career and it explains why certain weird themes repeatedly come up in his work.
Why is chinaman shit allowed even though a chink killed my dad, fuck off degenerates
>>7680696
Maybe you should leave weeb central and go back to facebook.
>>7673157
The Manga was shit. Everyone's personality was ramped up to the point of being caricatures and the drama is neutered to make way for dark humor that falls flat. And the ending was fucking retarded.
>>7672553
>Using the slur "Jap" instead of taking the time to type out Japanese
Is this a meme or something? Came across a Cryptonomicon review on GR just now saying this.
>>7680696
Depends. Not every weeb is an american. Some people simply like Japanese comics and are interested in Japanese culture without deeming it as superior to their own and being obnoxious.
You seem more disgusting than those people.
I have this picture.
>>7671515
I actually have a pirated copy of this on my Kindle because I had been fascinated as of late with hikikomori and loser shut-ins in general, but haven't gotten around to reading it. Then I find out it's a light novel. Not expecting much.
Really Japan needs to stop pandering to otaku and weeaboos with babby lit with anime covers. Just let them fucking die off in their fetid, cluttered apartments.
>>7682198
>I know nothing about Japan culture
Stop talking about things you don't know. You read a shitty translation made by some third rate publisher and you expect it to be good? Of course LN are garbage but there are a few exceptions. This one might not be a masterpiece of literature but I?m pretty sure it's not on par with your average LN either.
The author is a hikikomori himself and even after the success of his book he wasn't able to change his lifestyle.
>referring to ABe as "anime covers"
For your information the novel has only one illustration other than the cover.
Idiot.
>>7682221
My post is only two paragraphs long and yet you still misread it. I HAVEN'T FUCKING READ the goddamn book yet. I just know it's a light novel made for babbys who don't have motivation to read actual books.
>For your information the novel has only one illustration other than the cover
No fucking shit, sherlock. It's still an cover done in anime style to attract sweaty virgin faggots who jump on anything that has cute cartoon shit on it. Like you, no doubt.
>Silence, S. Endo
why do people make a big deal out of this
just finished it. good, but literary isnt exactly "great"
>>7682249
I didn't misread your post, it's just that you're too stupid to get how what I said is connected to what you said, apparently.
I can read "normal" books just fine, I simply don't feel validated by it and I don't stop myself from consuming any type of media art has to offer, on the contrary of you.
>anime style
Stop posting anytime.
Is it possible that of all the boards /lit/ is this ignorant?
>>7682264
>anime style
Okay, I'm sorry, "manga" style.
If anything light novels are "normal" books. For young Japanese people at least. And yeah, you can enjoy finer things and still consume weeaboo trash as a guilty pleasure, but for Christ's sake, don't advertise the fact. Keep that shit under lock, you don't want to look like a japanophile pedophile loser, do you?
>>7681964
Hi, sorry for the late response.
You fail to understand.
This thread is literally against the global board rules.
>http://www.4chan.org/rules
>/jp/ - Otaku Culture
>2. This is the appropriate board for the discussion of Japanese visual novels and light novels. Western visual novels should be posted to /vg/, and translated visual novels are fine on either board.
This thread is a bannable offense. It has no discernible value. Please leave.
>>7682270
There's no fucking manga/anime style, that's a thing the west has invented. Just stop.
>And yeah, you can enjoy finer things and still consume weeaboo trash as a guilty pleasure, but for Christ's sake, don't advertise the fact. Keep that shit under lock, you don't want to look like a japanophile pedophile loser, do you?
What the fuck is wrong with you? Not everyone is this insecure. You really think I will give a fuck if we meet and you think I'm a disgusting weeb when I tell you I read Welcome to the NHK last night? I'm gonna laugh at you and call you an insecure ignorant.
>>7682274
Fuck off.
>>7682287
>You really think I will give a fuck if we meet and you think I'm a disgusting weeb when I tell you I read Welcome to the NHK last night?
No, and technically I wouldn't either. I might ask you about it. If I came over to your place, though, and you had manga and light novels displayed on your shelf, I would start to judge.
People should be judged for the entertainment they predominantly like.
And also
>There's no fucking manga/anime style, that's a thing the west has invented.
Okay, so it's a fucking cartoon cover then. Let's settle at that. What if Stephen King's next book had a Marvel comic-style character on the cover? It would mean the publishers are trying hard to reel in neckbeard comic nerds.
>inb4 there are graphic novelizations of Dark Tower and Dean Koontz's Odd Thomas
Yes, those are made to pander to manchildren who'd rather look at pictures than read a whole page of text.
>>7682307
As I said only ignorants limit themselves. I have about 1000 manga volumes, I read literature, genre and non, I watch movies, I listen to every kind of music etc.
>Okay, so it's a fucking cartoon cover then. Let's settle at that. What if Stephen King's next book had a Marvel comic-style character on the cover? It would mean the publishers are trying hard to reel in neckbeard comic nerds.
I call them illustrations. Would you shit on Beardsley and Dore too? Yoshitoshi ABe is a great artist.
You sound like a moron. For that I would condemn you, not because you have Harry fucking Potter on your shelves.
>>7682316
>As I said only ignorants limit themselves.
I didn't say I haven't read manga. I just don't advertise it. It's media made for a trash demographic, even though there is some good stuff within it.
>I call them illustrations.
Still media made for a trash demographic.
>Harry fucking Potter
Trash fanbase.
Look, you can like stuff made for manchildren, you can admit that some of it elevates itself above pandering, but don't pretend that you're a bettered person because you "don't judge" and aren't ashamed to own 1000 chinese picture books.
You know those people that decided, at some point during or after college, to stop being self-conscious about their nerdy hobbies and just own it, and flaunt them freely? That's called autism.
>>7682349
Your reading comprehension is non existent.
You're a lost cause.
>>7682349
Just to help you growing up.
>Look, you can like stuff made for manchildren, you can admit that some of it elevates itself above pandering, but don't pretend that you're a bettered person because you "don't judge" and aren't ashamed to own 1000 books
You could exchange "chinese picture books" with every single type of medium and still be correct.
>>7682361
Yes, you listen to every time of music and read every type of literature in addition to not being ashamed of liking stuff that's marketed to pathetic people (even if it's good art). Good for you.
>>7682349
You sound like those powerlevel faggots who can't possibly enjoy their own thing if it isn't seen as 'patrician' by the other people.
Makes sense you're on /lit/.
>>7682349
You sound really insecure.
>>7682479
Welcome to /lit.
>>7678564
I have no stake in this thread or these novels, I clicked on this thread by accident, but I feel compelled to tell you that you are an enormous faggot and also wrong.
>>7682349
>being this insecure about your own hobbies
There's no need to go around flaunting your tastes around, but being ashamed of what you like for not being patrician or intellectual is just as autistic as those who wear vidya clothes and talk in weebspeak.
>>7682546
Well, look, you apparently don't consume those but you are "trash" as well.
>>7680483
>but then i grew up.
>using /pol/ buzzwords
heh, don't try to fit in here by swinging downwards at weebs
>>7682550
I've read a manga or two but only because I was really interested in the setup, but honestly I don't get much out of reading comics. How am I trash, senpai? Because I'm (snicker) pretentious?
Ban this filth, we used to be at war with Japan
Kappa is my favorite Japanese novel.
Im really amazed how you never know how to insult lit, using trash as a insult is do middle school.
>>7682566
Because you have a very narrow mindset, mostly, and difficulty to understand perspectives other than your own. Pretentious would fit as well, yes.
>>7682566
I don't even read manga but damn, are you pretentious. Not everyone likes the same stuff as you. Who cares? You probably read genre fiction and listen to pop shite.
>>7673844
well the other guy is still correct.
>>7673347
>slapstick humor
>>7682349
>shame
Yeah that's a real useful emotion to have about something so inconsequential
>>7682682
You may think it's inconsequential but it seeps into every facet into your life.
Then again, it's not weeb shit that makes a person trash, it's trash people that are made for weeb shit.
>>7682820
Sure it's worth reflecting on the original definition of weeaboo or any other Orientalist ideology if you consume the media, but worrying that society finds the things you enjoy disreputable is an entirely different spook.
>>7682349
>this is the people you share a board with
I'm a big fan of the show but the novel is bad.
>>7685239
>>7682618
You assholes have gone too fucking far.
"It takes two to make a universe" from Umineko is quite possibly my favourite quote of all time.
