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How much of a difference does the original spelling make when it comes to getting the rhythm and pronunciation in Shakespeare?

Answers from elitists only please


(also, any recommended editions with said spelling? free online versions of the older editions have them, but without any notes for the odd word that can't be deduced from context)
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>>7620367
>Answers from elitists only please
Shut up retard, the Bard in the first place is a pretty plebeian author.
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You should read as many alternate spellings as you can get your hands on.
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Is that girl experiencing hair loss?
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Fuck off to Reddit
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>>7620373
>quotes the very sentence asking them to refrain from participating
Rude <_<'''
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Suck my dick and stimulate my boy-pussy.
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>>7620367
I'd like a source on this seamen streamin' memein' demon'
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>>7620386
I'd still suck her fat tits.
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>>7620386
No, hair-loss start at the sides.
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sauce?
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>>7620396
Too many syllables desu
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The original pronunciation is actually what counts, which isn't necessarily reflected in the spelling.
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The spelling does not make the pronunciation but the method they use to try to emulate authenticity is dialect.

there is type-font but they changed all that and it reflects almost nothing to the execution
then there is the truncation and that is always there because of syllables
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OP I'm trying to refrain from fapping. I quit porn and lurk exclusively on this board and you're not making it easy for me.
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>>7622440
same here bro. Stay strong.
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Ok, thanks.

I don't know who the semen demon is. Also I hear nofap gives cancer. Good luck.
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>>7622623

>nofap gives cancer

[citation needed].

also, it'd be better if you didn't make posts on a lit board with images of semen demons
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>>7621958
Jazz Reilly
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>>7622710
Fapping once a week is the ideal. Less than that and you increase chances of prostate cancer.
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>>7621936
So would I please.
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>>7623063
Saw this a moment too late. Thanks.
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I've asked this before, but never got an answer.

Where to get Shakespeare plays in original spelling? Except for scans of folios and quartos, this is only thing that I stumbled upon, and it's on verge of being unusable:

http://internetshakespeare.uvic.ca/doc/Ham_Q1/scene/1/
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>>7623452
>on verge of being unusable:
Why?
Some free epubs floating around are based on this, but I can't tell whether they have typos or it's just how they're spelled...
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>>7622440
>I'm trying to refrain from fapping.

I know this feel so much

when you find your porn tastes are becoming exclusively incest and various kinds of "alternative" hentai, you know it's a problem

the worst part is that I don't know why it happens. I'm attracted to perfectly normal girls for perfectly normal reasons in my day-to-day life, but as soon as I go porn hunting or start daydreaming I turn into a freak

I probably would have let it continue spiraling out of control if I hadn't found Jesus t_b_h
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>>7624620
>when you find your porn tastes are becoming exclusively incest and various kinds of "alternative" hentai, you know it's a problem
no thats good sign
nietzsche would laugh at you for saying this carp keep that in mind
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damn op u trick me to click, i thought that was some sultry latin women of the south, but then i clicked and it's some degenerate elf with freckles
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>>7624630
Nietzsche would laugh at me? Oh NOOOOOOO!!
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>>7624642
Faer him pleb!!!
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>>7624630
And I'd laugh at Nietzsche for a lot of the shit he said, too
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>>7624633
top kek
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>>7624212

Oh no, not based on typos. They're perfect as far as I know when it comes to text (I only compared them to folio scans), It's just that the site design couldn't be more uncomfortable for reading.

I'd love it if you could point me to those epubs.
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>>7624664
As do I. It was just meant as a joke guys. I don't see why people get so riled like I'm attacking them or something. Where has the laughing heart gone guys? Not at that funny but still.
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>>7624677
Those epubs I was talking about are from what I've looked at here and there, so mainly libgen and the usual public domain ones, for instance this hamlet:
>http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2265
basically looks like an epub version of what you linked. The original spelling ones tend to be the lower-size, non-retail looking files.
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>>7624681
>riled up
nah
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>>7623452
>>7624677
Are there no print editions like this?
Tho they could switch the Us and Vs at least, what's up with that... or would that be a slippery slope...
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>>7626569

It's original spelling. If you go changing something like that, it's not original anymore is it?
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>>7621942
*phat
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Check this out, OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPlpphT7n9s
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>>7624620
Was he hiding under the sofa?
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You should always read with a critical apparatus because Shakespeare doesn't come down to us in any single one recension (and the editorial relationship between the various Folios and Quartos isn't always clear). So the case isn't always settled exactly what he said, let alone how he spelled it.

As for original spellings, it often doesn't matter, but SOMETIMES it does, another reason an apparatus and textual notes help.

For instance, in IV.1 of Richard the 2nd, Richard at one point vacillates and says, essentially: "Yes, no. No, yes." (the punctuation isn't clear).

It's often rendered in modern texts as "Ay, no. No, ay," but "ay" was SOMETIMES (not always) spelled "I" in Elizabethean English (and the text isn't clear: again, it depends on the recension). A FEW of the received texts DO have "I no no I."

"I", meaning "ay" as in "yes," is, of course, indistinguishable from the personal pronoun "I."

Therefore, a playful actor (or critical reader) could see a pun or quibble: "I know no 'I'", which would have been thematically apropos in context. But you can only see it in the original spelling (you can certainly HEAR it even with the modern spelling, but it's good when the text helps the sense).

So, yeah, sometimes the spelling matters. For the most part, however, modern re-spellings capture the rhythm and pronunciation properly.
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>>7628089
>OP
hmm...

>>7628250
Yes! I now have justification to either ignore or not ignore it. Thank you.
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>>7620367
it doesn't matter because we'll never know if he existed (as a single person) anyway.

how do you spell Plato?
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>>7629771
Play-doh
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>>7629771
Plah-toe
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>>7629771
Pla-teau
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>>7631702
>what I expected:
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>>7620367
that fucking hairline

I want to cum on her forehead and tell her to not wipe it off so it can fertilize her hair follicles
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I think I'm not attracted to women anymore.
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