After Homer, Virgil, Dante and Shakespeare
who would you say are the most influential to the western canon?
St. Paul
probably Paul the apostle
Chaucer
Goethe
DFJest.
David Foster Wallace
Plato
William George Armstrong
Milton, Joyce
montaigne
chaucer
cervantes
voltaire
swift
rabelais
h. bloom
>>7620053
Melville
your mom
My dairy, desu.
Caesar
>>7620166
Pls no, corn father.
As in having the most influence on writers in the canon or being the least likely to be removed in any iteration of it?
Juvenal
Ovid
Montaigne
Cervantes
Milton
Petrarch
>>7620053
>western canon?
MEANS NOTHING
>>7620428
>someone like goethe would rank above all of them
>
>>7620428
Get the fuck off this board you idiot
zhizheki
>>7620053
Chaucer
>>7620424
Rousseau unfortunately
>>7620053
Mr. Germs Choice
>>7620428
This is the worst post I've read all day.
>>7620053
Some old white guy.
In all seriousness, likely the scholars who translated the King James Bible.
Search your heart, you know it to be true.
>>7620053
Yeats
Pound
>>7621764
>Pound
my sides
>>7621764
Any pointers for reading yeats?
plato
chaucer
milton
marx
swift
Marquis de Sade
Thomas Pynchon
J.K. Rowling
Plato
Ovid
Erasmus
>>7622385
>Chaucer's influence is ridiculous.
you mean Bocaccio. Chaucer is shit.
>>7622505
>implying anyone reads boccacio
>>7622543
>trying to make himself feel better for not having read the Decameron
>Milton over Shakespeare
but why
>>7622546
>implying i haven't
Miguel de Cervantes
Voltaire
Dickens
Chekhov
Maugham
Yeats
Joyce
>>7622546
>being proud of wacking it to ancient pornography like if it's something special
>>7622505
>Chaucer is shit
Chretien de Troyes
>Decameron
airport novel
>literary worth
minimal
>entertainment value
repetitive and predictable
>target market
old sicilian maids and house wives
>modern day equivalent
A cross breed of fifty shades of grey and monty python
>>7620053
Bonnie Zacherle
>>7623118
>Maugham
who guvea s fuck
>>7623172
KANGZ
augustine, but not "after"
these threads are shit and I'll tell you why
nobody here has read a quarter of all the major works of the western world. Each of us has read, at best, a modest sum of authors, major and minor, of our first language, and a handful of major authors from other languages. Few of us can pretend to have studied more than one or two of these authors in depth.
This means that we are, most of us, in no position to comment on the sources of influence in the western canon. In order to make such judgments, posters draw largely on the judgments of older writers and critics; they think of some major author praising Shakespeare, or they remember some essay about the supreme importance of Dante.
What ends up in a thread like this is a mass of fourth-hand opinions with only the fuzziest sense of what they mean. When people say Milton is a major figure, what do they have in mind? Are they thinking of Pope writing Miltonic exercises in his youth? Are they thinking of William Collins feeling back (in vain) towards Miltonic sublimity? Are they thinking of Coleridge seeing Milton as a model for a new poetic movement? Are they thinking of Blake and Shelley clothing Milton's Satan in revolutionary garb?
Does this amount to much? Do any of these writers take as much from Milton as they pretend? And does Milton's influence extend beyond the English-speaking countries? I don't think anyone in this thread will have an answer.
I think we just have a vague notion that Milton is important because everyone says he's important, and English departments have dedicated Milton courses, and everyone has heard of the name John Milton. I don't think we are likely to have an intelligent discussion about how Milton has influenced later writers or where that influence has been most felt. Still less do I think we have any reliable way of judging the comparative influence of new writers versus old, english versus non-english; except by repeating critical judgments we've heard elsewhere.
>>7623570
To be honest most people in this thread (myself included) are just posting old authors they like
Emerson
>>7623570
speak for yourself faggot i've read a shitton more than you have and you seem to think i have
stop projecting your own inadequacies
>>7623599
>speak for yourself
>stop projecting
>a shitton
>your inadequacies
have you read a "shitton" of harry potter fanfics? youtube comments? you don't write like someone who reads books t-b-h
>>7623791
>green
>texting
INTP
Sartre - Huis Clos
Camus - Caligula
K. Dick - Do androids dream of electric sheep
Malraux - La Condition Humaine
This is such an open question. Surely these writers you mentioned impacted some school of thought, but so did many other writers in different fields.
What specifically do you mean? I could say Plato, Aristotle, Machiavelli, etc. impacted 'Western' canon, but really this means nothing because I didn't mention the field they did so
Despite of being Russian, Dostoevskij really anticipated most of European literature of the XX century
But really, you should defenetely add at leas Goethe (literally created romanticism) and a French author (the Chanson de Roland totally influenced all the following poems, like the Orlando Furioso)
>>7623599
wow anon your so smart
teach me about Chaucer's importance in the western canon
J.K Rowling
In no particular order;
Milton
Pound
Joyce
Kafka
Tolstoy
Gogol
Dostoyevsky
I haven't read any Proust or Camus, though.
>>7623570
here's where you're wrong
david jest
>>7625197
Gogol and Pound clearly don't belong in that list.
>>7620053
Plato, Aristotle, Thomas Aquinas
