What's the one literary thing we can all agree on?
That Messi > Ronaldo
That Han shot first
>>7558301
Socrates was real and so is Atlantis.
Cervantes > Shakespeare
>>7558301
That it's fine to dismiss the author's work if you don't want to end up the way the author did.
These aren't banal platitudes either.
>>7558326
That Joyce was a hack.
LOTR trilogy was good
Plato was based
I think most people here like Borges
>>7558341
LOTR trilogy was gay unconditional camaraderie white knight porn.
Plato was fairly based though I don't know why he thought kids would be less likely to strike their his teachers if they thought it could likely be his father, I don't think it would factor at all in disputes.
>>7558349
Why would anyone jump down the gap in an infinite staircase (or fly off into another galaxy with no food) because oh-no big bad entropy exists. Hack.
>>7558301
Words are words
>>7558367
>jump down the gap in an infinite staircase
You don't read too carefully, do you
>>7558373
No, because contextual sex is everything, almost.
>>7558381
Enough to dismiss a STEMpedo when I see one.
>>7558301
Whatever I say, some contrarian asshole is gon come and oppose it
>>7558393
No one is going to do that.
>>7558373
Words are pictures of words, you idiot.
>>7558301
Prose matters, like sex in a relationship, it's just expected.
translations under no circumstances should be read
>>7558425
That's what I told my professor, but I still failed.
>>7558392
The librarian didn't jump, he was talking about being cast over after death, and the gap wasn't in the staircase. Also, that was one sentence at the beginning of the story and had nothing to do with the rest of it, other than to set a less-than-optimistic tone. Give it a bit of thought though.
That it is worth our time.
>>7558555
I quit, this was just too deep.
>>7558349
There was once a pretty non-troll thread with several anons mildly Borges dissatisfied. Felt he was too cold. Ingrates.
>>7558301
That Vonnegut is pleb-tier
>>7558349
>what's something we can all agree on
>most
Seriously though, Borges is a master and anyone that contests this is merely a contrarian pseud
Things we can all agree on:
>Tolstoy is better than Dostoyevsky
>Nabokov is pretentious
>Wittgenstein was genuinely autistic
>Wordsworth Classics have terrible cover art
>Pic related is absolutely riddled with errors
>Plebs love H. Murakami
>Calvino is loved
>Orlando Furioso is under-appreciated
>Nobody has/will read Finnegans Wake
>Nobody is getting commercial success
>King has great writing advice but writes for the masses
>Stoner is loved
>There's only one meme trilogy, everything else is forcing it
>Hegel is hard to read
>Deleuze is hard to read
>Adorno is hard to read
>Rimbaud is sexy
>Start with the Greeks
>Martin is a hack
>Orwell is a poor stylist
>Bloom is crazy
>Pynchon posted here
>Roadside Picnic is top 5 scifi
>Spinoza takes no prisoners
>Chomsky is a petulant man-baby but a damn good linguist
>Nobody really gets Kant
>Most things are spooky
>>7558656
>Tolstoy is better than Dostoyevsky
stupid comparison
>Nabokov is pretentious
no
>Wittgenstein was genuinely autistic
maybe
>Wordsworth Classics have terrible cover art
maybe they're so bad they're good.
>Pic related is absolutely riddled with errors
"absolutely riddled" is quite hyperbolic
>Plebs love H. Murakami
true
>Calvino is loved
yes, but some people like to hate. fuck the h8ers
>Orlando Furioso is under-appreciated
truth
>Nobody has/will read Finnegans Wake
false
>Nobody is getting commercial success
almost certainly true
>King has great writing advice but writes for the masses
great writing advice - only sometimes
writes for the masses - no shit
>Stoner is loved
yea i guess
>There's only one meme trilogy, everything else is forcing it
very true
>Hegel is hard to read
>Deleuze is hard to read
>Adorno is hard to read
no opinion
>Rimbaud is sexy
idk. maybe?
>Start with the Greeks
yea
>Martin is a hack
sure
>Orwell is a poor stylist
true
>Bloom is crazy
crazy good
>Pynchon posted here
not sure if trust
>Roadside Picnic is top 5 scifi
possibly
>Spinoza takes no prisoners
>Chomsky is a petulant man-baby but a damn good linguist
no opinion
>Nobody really gets Kant
speak for yourself baka
>Most things are spooky
this post is 5spooky3me
>>7558656
Aside from the "Your task, in these dreams, is often to cross—under the trees, through the shadows—before something happens" error what else is wrong with that edition?
>>7558363
Is there a problem with gay, unconditional camaraderie, white-knight porn?
If only the world were more like that. Truly we would find peace
>>7558689
If the world were gay humanity would end.
>>7558656
>Tolstoy is better than Dostoyevsky
Yes but Tolstoy's probably in the all time top 5, so...
>Nabokov is pretentious
Yes
>Wittgenstein was genuinely autistic
Yes
>Wordsworth Classics have terrible cover art
Yes
>Pic related is absolutely riddled with errors
I think he's overrated and he knows it.
>Plebs love H. Murakami
Yes
>Calvino is loved
Never read him.
>Orlando Furioso is under-appreciated
Yes and No.
>Nobody has/will read Finnegans Wake
No. Anyone on 4chan? Yes.
>Nobody is getting commercial success
Yes
>King has great writing advice but writes for the masses
Yes, but the $400 million dollars in his bank account makes a hell of an argument for your previous point.
>Stoner is loved
It's overrated.
>There's only one meme trilogy, everything else is forcing it
Yes
>Hegel is hard to read
Meh
>Deleuze is hard to read
Meh
>Adorno is hard to read
Meh
>Rimbaud is sexy
I guess if you're a pedo, maybe?
>Start with the Greeks
Philosophy wise, yes. Anything else is a meme.
>Martin is a hack
Don't know what Martin you mean.
>Orwell is a poor stylist
Yes
>Bloom is crazy
Yes, but I like him and I've never seen anyone who loves literature as much as him.
>Pynchon posted here
Debatable, but I believe it was possible. New information has come out that has made me further convinced that it was actually him.
>Roadside Picnic is top 5 scifi
Never read it.
>Spinoza takes no prisoners
Yes.
>Chomsky is a petulant man-baby but a damn good linguist
I can't stand him and I think he'll be lost to history.
>Nobody really gets Kant
You'll need to elaborate on that.
>Most things are spooky
Yes.
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All in all, decent list, anon.
>>7558301
Not literary per se but: start with the Greeks.
>>7558728
>Debatable, but I believe it was possible. New information has come out that has made me further convinced that it was actually him.
pls elaborate
>>7558656
>Tolstoy is better than Dostoyevsky
no
>Nabokov is pretentious
y
>Wittgenstein was genuinely autistic
y
>Wordsworth Classics have terrible cover art
y
>Pic related is absolutely riddled with errors
y
>Plebs love H. Murakami
y
>Calvino is loved
y
>Orlando Furioso is under-appreciated
n
>Nobody has/will read Finnegans Wake
y
>Nobody is getting commercial success
y
>King has great writing advice but writes for the masses
y
>Stoner is loved
y
>There's only one meme trilogy, everything else is forcing it
y
>Hegel is hard to read
YES
>Deleuze is hard to read
n
>Adorno is hard to read
n
>Rimbaud is sexy
Y
>Start with the Greeks
Y
>Martin is a hack
kinda
>Orwell is a poor stylist
y
>Bloom is crazy
n
>Pynchon posted here
y
>Roadside Picnic is top 5 scifi
maybe
>Spinoza takes no prisoners
no
>Chomsky is a petulant man-baby but a damn good linguist
bad at both
>Nobody really gets Kant
y
>Most things are spooky
axiomatic
>>7558751
okay. hang on.
>>7558656
>Pynchon posted here
When, link pls
>>7558656
agree on all points except deleuze
>>7558305
Nah hahaha
>>7558751
I'm only going from memory because I don't feel like looking through the archives and finding the information and doing the sourcing and everything. Keep that in mind, but I do remember when it was happening.
Long story short, people caught on pretty quick that the person wasn't your average 4chan user. Of course, as these things go, it moved pretty quick to, "Do you think it could actually be him?" "No way it's actually Pynchon, get the fuck outta here." "This dude knows shit." Then he starts saying stuff and it goes full on, "that's gotta be Pynchon" or, "at least, someone incredibly smart and with insanely detailed knowledge of Pynchon."
From what I remember after that, the guy offered a gmail and anyone could write to him but he wouldn't necessarily write back (even the name on the email turned out to be a crazy obscure reference that led to a bunch of other stuff, but that's side plot). He said you'd have to pass a sort of literature Turing Test. Anyway, someone got through and posted what they talked about. After some discussion, he asks point blank, "Are you Pynchon?" The guy responds with, "Alas, no." He tells the guy he's Spanish, he's a writer, he thought about being an academic but decided against it, he was friends with Bloom, but that's as much as he could say.
Someone recently posted some letters from the UT Archives. As in they post them this week. In these letters, Pynchon is talking about how he's become obsessed with Borges and Argentina in general. He says that saying he's an Argentinophile is the wrong word, that he's become a maniac. He says things like, "I read Borges in the original Spanish because I figured it's only polite if it's not too difficult to do." He says he became obsessed with Argentina and Argentine literature. He particularly talks about the Borges story from El Aleph, The Two Kings and the Two Labyrinths, and that he became obsessed with the concept of the "llanura," because it seems to drive Argentine writers crazy and it makes them fill their work with "rabbit warrens and labyrinths." He even goes so far as to say this:
>When I realize my true vocation as literary critic and write the definitive work on XX Argentine Lit, this I think will be my basic dichotomy (God how I used to love that word): the labyrinth and the plain. The work of a malevolent God and the work of man, both essentially the same, both designed to destroy or alienate the human spirit.
So my new theory about the whole situation (which I'm not entirely sure I do believe it was Pynchon, and I could make a convincing argument that it, in fact, was not and was only an insanely devoted, highly educated fan of his work) is that if it were Pynchon, he got spooked that he gave up too much information in the thread and to the guy he was emailing, so he backpedaled with a quick story that he was just a highly educated Spanish writer who was friends with Bloom.
But, I want to be clear, I don't entirely believe he was here.
>>7558705
not necessarily
>>7559022
i didn't realize there was an e-mail follow-up to that whole thing that's interesting. ty
in the end it's just whatever you believe is real!!! if you believe it was pynchon who can really tell you you're wrong? :^)
>>7559109
It probably wasn't Pynchon, but it's cool to think it was because it makes me hope that maybe, just maybe, in some fucked up view of my life, it's a little less sad and pathetic that I spend time here. But probably not.
>>7559168
that's actually exactly why I tell myself it was Pynchon. also cuz it'd make a better story, ya know?
>>7559168
>>7559172
Well, I know one thing. I'm glad I waltzed into this thread just now.
>>7559022
This is incredible. I especially enjoy the idea of Pynchon being obsessed with Borges - can anyone confirm?
As much as we despise this site, I can at least say one thing: it was /lit/ that convinced me to read Borges. Now, there will always be ideas running around my head to study Spanish from scratch, to enjoy stories of labyrinthine complexity and maybe write some of my own.
>>7559463
>and in le eyes of God, two opposite things were teh same thing!! lmao is your mind blown yet
>>7559022
i don't follow, you think it was pynchon because he is obsessed with Borges now?
>>7558313
>Socrates was real
>>7558656
>>Nabokov is pretentious
probably. his recommended reading list makes me think that he's the Steve Albini of literature
>>7559463
>This is incredible. I especially enjoy the idea of Pynchon being obsessed with Borges - can anyone confirm?
You can confirm that from reading GR. The whole argentine revolutionaries group is in it almost just for him to say, Argentina hmmmmmm btw Borges was right
>>7558301
William Gass is the greatest prose writer since Joyce.
>>7559470
>le compulsive contrarian xD strikes again XXD
Right, enough of that. Let's not devolve into /v/ level greentext.
>>7558301
That William Shakespeare was a good writer.
>>7559503
No, because he said he went through such an obsession with him and Argentine writers in general. We know he was interested in being an academic, or could have been an academic, but he decided against being one. Just that the guy said that he was a Spanish writer, wanted to be an academic, knew Bloom (they went to Cornell together), etc., all sort of pushed my mind in that direction. Again, not saying I believe it all.
>>7559463
I saved the letters. I'll get them for you. Hang on.
>>7558656
>Tolstoy is better than Dostoyevsky
No opinion
>Nabokov is pretentious
Yes, but he earned it
>Wittgenstein was genuinely autistic
No
>Wordsworth Classics have terrible cover art
No argument here
>Pic related is absolutely riddled with errors
No
>Plebs love H. Murakami
Ok
>Calvino is loved
People shit on him a lot
>Orlando Furioso is under-appreciated
Yess
>Nobody has/will read Finnegans Wake
No
>Nobody is getting commercial success
Speak for yourself
>King has great writing advice but writes for the masses
Duh
>Stoner is loved
I've seen people complain about it
>>There's only one meme trilogy, everything else is forcing it
The selections in pic related were decided upon by many anons
>Hegel is hard to read
>Deleuze is hard to read
>Adorno is hard to read
>Rimbaud is sexy
>Start with the Greeks
>Martin is a hack
>Orwell is a poor stylist
>Bloom is crazy
Duh
>Pynchon posted here
No
>Roadside Picnic is top 5 scifi
>Spinoza takes no prisoners
>Chomsky is a petulant man-baby but a damn good linguist
>Nobody really gets Kant
>Most things are spooky
Duh
>>7558301
First person narrators are the most useful when it comes to at least writing.
>>7558395
>>7558393
>>7558656
The only reason people think Nabokov is pretentious is because people take him too seriously. He's even stated that his work isn't the type where you should ask the question "why is this story being told" or "what were the author's intentions." He says that his works are just "aesthetic bliss." I think Nabokov is just really funny and clever when it comes to word-play, and his language isn't all too dry for a "classic" author, it's actually quite beautiful.
>>7559605
correct. nabokov was a troll who was actually smart. if he was alive today he'd probably be shitposting terrible memes on /lit/ in his spare time desu
Maybe we can agree that:
"Words are okay"
Maybe some futurist poet or Joyce wannabe will disagree.
>>7558656
>Tolstoy is better than Dostoyevsky
sure
>Nabokov is pretentious
in the traditional sense of the word, his writing is easy to read but his take on literature is completely wrong and he knew absolutely nothing about poetry
>Wittgenstein was genuinely autistic
not literature, try the math department
>Wordsworth Classics have terrible cover art
the old versions don't
>Pic related is absolutely riddled with errors
it's also a mediocre novel
>Plebs love H. Murakami
I suppose? haven't read him
>Calvino is loved
not really
>Orlando Furioso is under-appreciated
not to anyone who reads any poetry. Spenser is a copy of Ariosto's storywriting, sure, but the language there is much better and that's what matters in poetry. Neither of them wrote good "stories" but Spenser wrote the better poetry. And no, everyone who reads enough knows who Ariosto was.
>Nobody has/will read Finnegans Wake
what are translators?
>Nobody is getting commercial success
today? probably not
>King has great writing advice but writes for the masses
king has great writing advice for sub-100 iq retards who write for the masses
it's all a delusion for the masses who want to write a fantasy novel about elves in space, really -- "read this and you'll have a shot"
>Stoner is loved
by nonreaders
>There's only one meme trilogy, everything else is forcing it
only one book in the trilogy is worth praising and that's Ulysses
>Hegel is hard to read
and for most, not worth the time
>Deleuze is hard to read
I wouldn't have any idea
>Adorno is hard to read
I wouldn't have any idea
>Rimbaud is sexy
until he turned 18
>Start with the Greeks
eventually, but you can get by for a while without more than the basic greek literature
>Martin is a hack
who? Amis? sure I guess
>Orwell is a poor stylist
I haven't read him since middle school, I don't know
>Bloom is crazy
except when it comes to American poetry
>Pynchon posted here
second rate novelist posted here, sure, who cares though
>Roadside Picnic is top 5 scifi
sounds dumb, never heard of it
>Spinoza takes no prisoners
I don't get it
>Chomsky is a petulant man-baby but a damn good linguist
I don't read linguistics papers so the first is about as far as I'd go
>Nobody really gets Kant
Kant probably did
>Most things are spooky
especially 18 year olds who read Stirner
>>7559613
joyce loved words more than anyone on this degenerate board senpai
>>7559620
well good. Mostly, I'm just worried there might be some expiremental writer who doesn't use words, lurking in the shadows of /lit/
>>7558687
Someone answer me.
>>7559625
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>>7558324
shoot yourself
>>7559658
>>7558656
>Wordsworth Classics have terrible cover art
B&N editions make me want to choke a bitch
>>7559617
M8 I think his post was supposed to address 'everyone' on /lit/...
>>7559540
Okay, thanks either way anon. I should get off my ass and try to look for them myself in the meanwhile.
I should probably drop this whole Pynchon thing, huh?
>>7558324
This is just wrong chief.
>>7559022
>>7559168
>>7559536
>>7559540
Hey >>7559463 and >>7559907, the above links were me. Sorry it took me so long. I went and found the archives of what I was talking about. It's pretty much /lit/ legend at this point. Even if it wasn't Pynchon, it was still fun to imagine it was.
The legend begins on May 8, 2010 in a thread where a guy asked for /lit/ to try and decide upon the greatest work of literature of the 20th Century. Scroll down this thread:
>https://warosu.org/lit/thread/S644003#p645241
When you see Bill Murray, that's our suspect.
He's again suspected of showing up the following day, May 9, in a thread about Milton:
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/S648450#p649151
Where everything caused people to start to really question what was going on was a thread from May 13, 2010, asking the question, "was Shakespeare really THE greatest of all time?" You can read that thread, here:
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/S667543#p667573
He's further suspected of showing up on July 21, 2010:
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/S947873#p947984
October 21, 2010:
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/S1225732#p1225765
And July 18, 2011:
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/S1935956#p1937494
Then, on October 6, 2012, somebody posts this:
https://i.warosu.org/data/lit/img/0030/39/1349634007789.jpg
Most people think that post was probably horseshit but, the next day, it does bring out a guy who successfully emailed and corresponded with the guy from not-BillMurray and Shakespeare threads, here:
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/S3039755
The guy who emailed with him was convinced it's Pynchon, but he never admitted it. And that...as far as I know...is the last of that. Everything else has been shrouded in memes and mystery.
---
A couple days ago, someone here posted some Pynchon letters from the UT Archives. I remembered that final thread about the e-mail where he said he was not Pynchon, that he was just some Spanish writer who was friends with Bloom.
I'll post the letters I was talking about after this because, to me, it was more evidence that it could have really been Pynchon, himself.
>>7558301
I think the only thing we can agree on is that the Wordsworth Classics covers are fucking awful.
>>7558305
this
>>7560066
I was not aware the other thread with the letters was still up, so here are the specific ones I was referring to about Borges and Argentina.
>>7560066
>>7560171
>>7560066
>>7560171
>>7560176
bump because i think more people should read the pynchonposter
>>7560696
Silly, anon. No one cares about Pynchon.
>>7560066
>Read COMUS, which is a masque (or little playlet) about a Sex Demon who is trying to seduce a virgin in a forest.
>Then read LYCIDAS, which is a poem about grief....an elegy for a fellow college student who died in a freak accident.
>fellow college student who died in a freak accident
holy shit
>>7560892
That's a well known fact.
Books are
>>7561244
You can't know this
>>7560066
He also spent time in Mexico City in the early 60's. Some even say he was on the same bus as Lee Harvey Oswald when he went down there to get his passport.
>>7558313
Obviously Socrates existed. That's not anything to agree on, it's a fact. The only thing in question is to what extent he has been used to push someone else's agenda.
>>7558301
john green sucks
This whole Pynchon story sounds really nuts.
Ismael Sosa is better
>>7558592
I get that too, for a south american he serms to lack passion, but his stories have enough other ideas and cool themes to make up for it
>>7561700
Well yeah, hes catering to pre-teens who have never been in a relationship. What do you expect?
>>7559650
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>>7565603
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Translation
>>7565337
>fuk u bitch u lil shit ;-)
>>7565603
>the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate�Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake�I shake it off, I shake it off
>>7567017
>What filth dared pass your unworthy lips, pitiful urchin? I will declare, am the heir of the Elders, I have led our people out of tragedy single-handed, and I have destroyed over 300 white demons. I am learned in the arts of the earth and sky, and none are more connected to the Great Spirit than I! You are but nothing to me, prey.
WTF FAGGOT
Thread derailed by Pynchon-posters again.
Thankfully, it wasn't a particularly good thread in the first place.
>>7558301
>What's the one literary thing we can all agree on?
jet fuel can't melt steel beams
