RARE DFW THREAD
Dumb dfw poster
>>7525915
>>7525932
>David, if Delillo comes in here and catches us, we'll both be in a world of jest!
>I AM... In a world.. Of jest!
>>7525915
Why is he so dreamy bros?
>>7526365
i guess it's long hair, the height, constant stubble and the weird empathy thing he rocks. Also 90s nostalgia? like he was alive after that but we all know he's 90s as fuck
>>7526986
Don't forget those luscious lips and those arms. Oh god~
>>7526994
>strong, toned arms from years of tennis
>you watch him practice; grunting, running
>sweat collects in his bandanna
>he stops, panting
>turns to you, removes bandana
>hair falls down
>licks lips
>And I submit that this is what the real, no bullshit value of your liberal arts education is supposed to be about: how to keep from going through your comfortable, prosperous, respectable adult life dead, unconscious, a slave to your head and to your natural default setting of being uniquely, completely, imperially alone day in and day out. That may sound like hyperbole, or abstract nonsense. Let's get concrete. The plain fact is that you graduating seniors do not yet have any clue what "day in day out" really means.
>>7527018
there would be footnotes onto this of course
>>7527018
This is a good post
>>7525915
more stoop wallace
>>7527028
>>7525915
>>7528170
oH boy that's pretty rare, thanks anon
>>7526004
nice
>>7527018
Lel
>>7528850
david was so fucking gorgeous omg
What could've saved him?
>>7528982
common goddamn sense from a medical professional
>oh gee one of my patients has been taking the same quasi-medieval depression medication for nearly ten fucking years
>better try to switch him off it lol
>great idea 10/10
>>7528982
earlier memedom. I wouldn't belt myself if I knew some people kept pictures of me.
>>7528982
Zadie
>>7528992
Every once in a while I just get a little sad thinking about all the DFW we missed out on, and everything he missed out on.
There is some alternate universe where DFW wrote an essay on bernie sanders and I'm sad I'm not in it. Some coverage from him on this election would have been fantastic
I live in Amherst and maybe, when he was older, he would have come to settle down with us. It's all old professors here.
>>7528993
this is so pathetic, sad and true at the same time
>>7529030
Why would you care what he would've had to say about Sanders when he has absolutely no chance of becoming the dem nominee?
>>7529037
I propose that /lit/ should detect suicidal writers and stop them/help them do it based on patricianhood.
>>7529061
Only if they have discernible talent. We should let Tao Lin and all those alt-lit queers to off themselves.
>>7529065
>stop them/help them do it
>>7529093
Stop mocking my reading comprehension please.
>>7528982
My love and affection.
>>7529042
He followed the McCain campaign in 2000.
>>7529042
Just because sanders won't be the dem nominee doesn't mean DFW would have something interesting to say about his campaign.
As I see it, sanders not receiving the nomination is far more interesting than if he were to receive it. It forces you to accept how far gone the US political system is, and how capable Establishment is at rigging these sort of things without outright rigging anything.
Now, I'm not saying that's what DFW would have written about, but I'm sure he would have something profound to say about the whole campaign. Sanders seems to be someone who "sees the forest through the trees", a quality that DFW always tried to impress onto others.
>>7529143
I wonder if he would have been able to stump the Trump
>>7529143
DFW voted for Reagan and supported Perot. I doubt he'd care about Sanders.
>>7525915
What would The Wallace have said if he could have foreseen an entire Burmese jade-trading circuit shitposting about him in current year?
>>7529177
He would join in on the fun.
>>7528982
>>7529037
If only I could go back in time and show him that we loved him
However, any "If only" bullshit is way beside the point. I'm sure that it's been said when talking about any depression-suicide where the person was actually loved. Unfortunately, brain chemistry is thoroughly cemented in the laws of physics.
Still miss him though
>>7529185
Where the fuck is this gif from?
>>7529180
Haha honestly though, he would probably show up very briefly every now and then
>>7529188
No idea, found it here
>>7529061
yeah sorry, but i think his suicide and our inability to talk shit abt what would have been his current existence is why we meme so hard on him desu
>>7529192
He would get nervous seeing a thread made about him and start to sweat and then post a picture of just his sweaty forehead to participate and secretly hope no one knows it was actually him.
>>7529200
1/
>>7526004
Good one, private.
>>7529200
lol why does t-b-h autocorrect to desu ohana?
2/
>>7529233
/3
my fav desu
>>7529065
what about alt-lit qts tho
>>7529233
reddit mods
>>7529233
It's Hiromoot's idea of jest senpai.
>>7529234
4/
sorry fucked the formatting up on the last one
>>7529240
5/5
>>7529236
Still talentless and obnoxious. Girls have a way higher suicide failure rate anyways so you shouldn't worry. They usually just try to OD on OTC pills or cut their wrists so they almost never succeed.
>>7529236
moon temple was the only one, and she looks like shit now.
>>7529185
>dat zadie
>>7529185
>He also noticed that Wallace and Karr behaved like friends rather than lovers, probably because Karr wanted things to look ambiguous to her son or maybe because they were still ambiguous. "He really could have been her gay friend, from body language," Costello remembered.
remember when his kid was on the x-files?
>>7529200
Of course, someone dying aggressively increases how much they are idolized, but we could be talking just as much about what he IS doing, if he were still alive
>>7528905
this will always be my favorite dfw
>>7529177
I think the fact that he killed himself had a lot to do with his transcendence to meme status. DFW just wouldn't be who he is to us now if he were still alive
>>7529203
that sounds really cute t b h
>>7525915
>>7529615
If he'd survived and continued to work on The Pale King and actually finished it... I can imagine myself going to Barnes & Noble on the day it came out. Going inside on a chill November morning and walking up to the storefront New Releases display and seeing that glorious 1,000-pp. brick of a novel propped up on a clear plastic stand. Completely finished. It appears almost to kind of glow. The follow-up to Infinite Jest. The third novel by David Foster Wallace. His first since 1996. The reviews have been outstanding. The Pale King. Holy shit. Here it is, finally, in my hands. The title's letters on the dust jacket are gold and raised and they shimmer when you tilt the book back and forth. I brush my fingers over the edge of the pages and watch the pages fly by and I peer into it as if I'm reading it in fast-motion. I compose myself and open to the first page. "Past the flannel plains..." The text is set not in the normal-sized Baskerville of our universe but in the same style Infinite Jest was set: same typeface, same tiny size. There are footnotes everywhere. An old woman approaches the display and inspects a copy for a few moments and then moves on. I take a look at the author photo on the dust jacket's back flap. It's Dave. Fifty years old and smiling in California. Below it tells me that David Foster Wallace is the author of Infinite Jest and much else. He's a recipient of the MacArthur Grant. It says he lives in California with his wife. He lives.
>>7529669
tear ducts dilated, but that's all. not bad, anon.
Should I watch End of the Tour? Or will it leave a bad taste in my mouth? I happen to love jesse eisenberg if that's worth anything
>>7529143
Not realizing everything is working according to the Founding Fathers' plan and that all of his rights are being secured and that he is not being ruled by tyrants nor having some anarchy where somebody actually takes his particular opinion too seriously.
You don't deserve tthe constition, you baka
>>7529708
I guess it's technically "working" but surely we can strive for something better
>>7529236
Mira Gonzales must be protected from harm. t least until I have a few good quality videos of her getting choked or slapped around sexually.
>>7529707
It's pretty fucking bad if you know anything about DFW and what he actually stood for.
>lel entertainment!! American Dream ruining my lyf!!
>is making hundreds of thousands on a big production movie
Eat my ass
>>7529669
Fuck. Sometimes I walk through Crookshank and wonder what it would have been like stopping in to chat with Dave on a regular basis
how banal
>>7529573
DFW was cute af
>>7529669
Jesus, why did you do this to me
Ultra-rare Wallace
This is from the simpson's episode "A Supposedly Fun Thing That Bart Will Never Do Again"
>Took place on a cruise ship
>>7529669
>>7529669
the troubling thing about it is his editor said he was the happiest she'd even seen him, his decision to go off the anti-depressant was what killed him. so preventable
theres a serious irony to the DFW love, its kinda sad because while he obviously wanted to be loved, i think he kinda wanted everyone to hate him when he died. if you really understand what he's trying to say you'd see that he wanted you to conflicted and ask yourself why he would've done that
alot of people i guess arent able to really take that plunge and see that a real serious inner nastiness was probably involved, one which he was at least aware of and probably would've preferred you were too
>>7530310
he went off his meds you pseudo-intellectual wanker. not even deifying the man because by all accounts he could be an egomaniac and asshole etc. but I don't think his suicide was a 'career move' like /lit/ seems to want to believe
>>7529163
It was a different time anon. We had to beat the ruskies at any cost
>>7529669
god damn, anon
>>7530342
>being this blue-pilled
in case you didnt know smart people are always intellectual wankers, including dfw.
wonder why you didnt get the memo.
>>7529669
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80rHyABCb20
>>7530342
>implying the very same reason he was on the meds couldnt have anytthing to do with why he would make a suicidal, symbolic career movie like he did especially when you consider the overall thesis of his work
but nah you just like the poop jokes huh?
>>7530310
this guy gets it.
>>7528993
But DFW was literally the most critically acclaimed American novelist at the time he killed himself. Nothing could have saved him.
>>7530390
What would you say is the overall thesis of his work?
>>7530412
im not here to do your homework but in short it has something to do with history, american emptiness, apathy, addiction, meta-relations and tornadoes (as a metaphor)
>>7530426
Not asking for you to "do my homework" I just wanted to hear your opinion and see if it was similar to my own
>>7530441
it was more like a disclaimer, if i really cared im sure i could organize a much beter thesis out of those buzz-words
>>7529143
sanders won't be nominated because his policies are fucking retarded and don't even work in theory
>>7530460
And you can give me one fact about any other candidate that in any way justifies the millions taken from private interests?
Do you even know what his platform is? What parts of campaign finance reform "don't work in theory"?
>>7530544
>does anyone actually understand his intentions
whether or not they were significant or relevant is another thing, but its pretty clear he did really care what people who werent listening (aka the masses) were thinking and this was in a way a means of reaching them that evidently wasnt effective...
but then again we are still talking about him here more than anyone else today, the author of 2 books who hasnt worked on a thing in more than 10 years
i also question your understanding of why anyone does anthing, least of all a private someone in the public splotlight
>>7529163
He's stated that his cold war political beliefs and post-9/11 political beliefs were different. During the cold war, he feared a nuclear exchange between the US and USSR. After seeing the US's misguided reaction to 9/11, he feared the American people continuing down this path of imperialism and general disregard towards the rest of the world.
And from a higher perspective, one would assume that he would be in favor of moving away from our current oligarchy, and as Sanders is the first candidate to offer that in quite some time, I wouldn't imagine him favoring any other candidate.
>>7530533
>What parts of campaign finance reform "don't work in theory"?
all of his "free" shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmji36q8E4o
>>7530559
I never claimed to understand why he did it, and I completely agree %100 that we will never be able to understand why he did what he did.
However, the thought of people reducing his suicide to yet another carrier move, something he wanted, something to subject to literary analysis, is disgusting...
He was a human being, after all. I know people have trouble empathizing with those they idolize, but you can't write off his depression that quickly. That's one of the worst parts of depression, people will do anything they can to ignore it, complicated literary mental gymnastics included.
"Killing myself will get people's attention and once I'm dead they'll care" Is a thought that I would attribute to a 14-year-old. I hope that people would think more of DFW than that.
Or would you rather think his suicide was some sort of message for y o u to analyze and consume?
>>7530460
not everything has to work in theory for it to work in practice
ckm8
>>7530596
his wife's post-david's sucide art installation was a "pig-from-bacon" machine, a "date pitting" machine, and a forgiveness machine that cut your note with what you wanted forgiven on it into little peices
the date pitting machine is the most confusing, but if your smart you'll notice a connection here.
>>7530599
name 1 economic theory that has been proven false but is being successfully applied today.
i'll wait
>>7530589
?
1) his platform isn't "free shit"
2) what does campaign finance reform have to do with "free shit"?
3) what does that video have to do with sanders?
0/10 annon, I'm getting the feeling that you support carson
>>7530596
>people do anything they can to ignore it, complicated literary mental gymnastics included.
do you not see the irony of you making this point and continuing to disagree with me?
He's a hero of mine, but i dont know if ill let him off easy for this.
i know how depression works and a lot of times its a form of desperation, a sort of patheticness that should be empathized with but not ever respected i guess
i think an attempt to make art, or commentary kinda transcends that which i think that was sort of the point
>>7530605
bernie wants free education, free healthcare, forgiven student debt... literally everything that libcunt was advocating for in the video
>>7530603
Name one economic theory that has been proven true PERIOD. We don't even fully understand INFLATION
Economics still has its pants around its ankles. It's done some good but it has a huge ways to go.
Though what he said about things not working in theory but working in practice is definitely beside the point. It's true, but not really relevant.
>>7530616
>Name one economic theory that has been proven true PERIOD.
i almost audibly laughed when i read this and realized it has to be bait but here you go: supply and demand.
>>7530603
Neoclassical economic theory seems to be forcibly applied to many scenarios, yet other Orthodox economic theories, which are based on empirical evidence, are often forgotten by main stream economists.
>>7530620
still waiting for that example mate
>>7530616
a theory proven true is a law. example: law of diminishing return
>>7530624
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2005/10/30/business/yourmoney/bernankes-models-and-their-limits.html?referer=&_r=0
Ben Bernanke, President (?) of the Federal Reserve of the US, makes extremely complex mathematical models of the economy. He and his predecessor have acknowledged their limitations, but they remain the primary structure of our economy.
>>7530615
And you seriously posted a video of some fox news anchor ripping apart some retarded undergrad to represent everyone who shares that sentiment? Again, 0/10 annon. I 100% agree, "democrats" are pretty retarded, but so are republicans. I'm not a fan of free healthcare (the government could not POSSIBLY handle running our healthcare system) and I don't really give a shit about free public college, but if you think that's all his platform is (or even a significant part of his platform) then you are pretty poorly informed, and I encourage you to look further in to it than when media outlets let circulate.
And nice chart there, even though every other candidate (except trump) is doing their best to guzzle corperate scrotum to maximize donations, bernie's received the 5th most donations. That madman doesn't even have a super-PAC
>>7530633
>mathematical models
>false
and having limitations doesnt prove its false. good effort though
>>7530619
And how's that supply-side economics working out for you
>>7530642
lol wut.
>>7530638
The underlying axiom of all neoclassical theory is the idea of scarcity. In today's world, scarcity is often an artificial construct to benefit a few producers. Yet, neoclassical models are continually used.
Perhaps 'proving a theory false' was not what I haf in mind. I was merely trying to explain that economics is not always as it seems; this facade is arguably intentional.
>>7530642
This
>>7530696
very rare
>>7530601
hey I'm not that smart, can you spell it out for me please
>>7530701
dave had chronically low blood sugar
and dates are high in sugar
she wanted davie to eat more of dates, could hav saved his life
>>7530722
So what do you think DFW was trying to impart on us?
>>7530726
something about empathy and sadness no doubt. he just ran out of things to say really.
he saw a better way of having his voice heard.
>>7530726
at the end of the day, he only hurt those closest to him.
the rest of the world only gets to miss him, which im sure he would tell you is a lot better than actually knowing them
>>7530727
Do you seriously think he committed suicide for attention? I know this is 4chan, but that's incredibly low. I know people HATE actually acknowledging depression but jesus, try to remember he was a human being.
>>7530722
Autopsy report? Definitely Too Much. Unless you believe that literary analysis must permeate everything,
>>7530755
thats such a generic and derivative assumption that i would think that, thats not what im saying at all.
he was making a statement to the world and himself. it was probably somewhat religious in nature.
but he was sick.
thats all im saying.
>>7530755
you just dont know what i know.
ill put it like that.
>>7530755
>Unless you believe that literary analysis must permeate everything,
>Unless you believe that literary analysis must permeate everything,
this could also be argued to be one of David's thesis' which i categorized under meta-relations
>>7525915
>dfw someone reposts your shitty OC
>>7530721
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
it all makes sense now
>>7530782
haha I have to ask, what inspired you to make it?
I had just watched drive when I saw it, so of course I had to save it, and then I found it in a folder a few days ago and knew it needed to be shared
>>7530790
>dfw
>>7530241
>We will never see a Simpsons episode that has thomas pynchon and david foster wallace interfacing.We will never see a Simpsons episode written by TP and DFW
>>7530808
Is there a word for going from not knowing you even wanted a thing to immediately absolutely needing that thing
>>7530819
Reddit-lust.
>>7530835
At least they're sincere
>>7529857
>caring at all about the actors
They're convenient visual vessels for their words. Their lives do not concern me.
>>7530882
That sounds pretty comfy, thanks for looking!
>>7530791
I love DFW, then I recently watched drive. I remember some posting something about David saying he was "a real human bean and a real hero" so naturally I had to make an image for it
>>7530902
I'm sad now
>>7530902
That little dance at 0:13 though
dfw
