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In how many languages can you read, mate, and more importantly which one do you prefer the most? What are the prime differences? How long did it take you to learn it or are they all your mother tongues at the same time? Advices for learners at the initial stage are welcomed.
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>>7504656
I'm from german heritage, so German is no problem of course.
I can read English fluently, just finished Romeo and Juliet and Motorcycles & Sweetgrass.
French is pretty difficult because I lack most advanced adjectives/adverbs, so I have to stick to Le petit prince etc... Right now I have to read "Phèdre" for and "En attendant Godot" for uni; it really sucks ass (not because of the plot but because I miss important passages and have to look inside my dictionary.
Any advice to increase my reading skills?
Just picked up Spanish this summer, looking forward to increase my speech level and pick up my first novels in that language.
Besides, what about you OP?
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>>7504656
Dutch, English, French and German
English for the best translations, French for the most poetic language, dutch is a disgusting language and my German isn't on point for deep stuff.
Learned them all in highschool + latin and Spanish.
Go to a country for a few months, watch television in that language and read books.
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>>7504706
Well, as you've already asked that, the only foreign language as well as self-taught for me is English, in which I cannot read fluently yet on account of limited vocabulary and stuff. Mother tongue is Russian. As far as I can judge there is nothing to say about myself at this stage for I'm learning it just for 2 years and didn't take any lesson on grammar yet, only watching movies and using 4chan.
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>>7504706
Phedre is tough even for native French speakers

I read in English and France, but read only in English unless the book was written in French
Just more comfortable with English since I've done most of my education in English, despite growing up in a french speaking country with french speaking parents
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>>7504761
what's some good beginner-intermediate level french stuff?
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Can only speak in two. I find people with more than one language to be more interesting to talk too, a lot of them are floating travellers or displaced and dispossessed of a homeland. It gives them a more informed world view rather than the us against the rest of the world everyone else tends to have. I highly suggest you all travel and pick up an easy romance language like Spanish Portuguese or French, they sound beautiful when spoken and will open your eyes to an entire new perspective.
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>>7504656
I'd rather read on my native language. I understand English and French but I can't apprehend/substrat what I'm reading.
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>>7504774
>but I can't apprehend/substrat what I'm reading.
I'm understanding you so much. I take it that to feel every bit of a new language you have to spend some time intensively reading on a regular basis.
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>>7504656
Second German reporting in.
>German is no problem
>Currently working on my middle high German skills
>English has been honed by years of shitposting/reading a lot of english books
>I was decent at French 5 years ago, I'll work my way into French in 2016
>mi espanol es mui malo. Yo soy un burro amoroso.

I prefer my mothertongue because that's the one with which I can pick up nuances the best. I also try to concentrate on it, since I'd like to drop some serious efforts on writing this year.

>Advices for learners at the initial stage are welcomed.
Get some real dictionaries, made out of paper: Internet is the mind-killer.
Remember: Invest at least an hour into learning your new language each day before visiting 4chan. You'll be a Pentalingual by the end of 2016.
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>>7504747
Dutch is cute if you are cute :3 Just like every other language!
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>>7504799
>mi espanol es mui malo. Yo soy un burro amoroso.

So cute
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French, English, Japanese and German.
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>what is /int/
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Native Serbian, but I'm reading most of books in English, because Serbian translation are terrible most of the time. Started learning German, but never kept at it, so now I'm learning Portuguese, hoping one day I'll be able to read in it.
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>>7504755
Your Englis is pretty advanced if you learned it just through movies and 4chan. Keep it up
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>>7504761
Good to know. Then I ask myself why they want it us to read in the first semster of uni where the average student has an A2 or B1 level of french.
Where did you grow up exactly?

>>7504766
I really enjoyed Monsieur Ibrahim et les fleurs du Coran. Might be not targeted on your age group tho.
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I speak and write correct Italian, Macedonian and English.
I've studied french in middle school and I should pick it up again.
Now i'm learning German, at a very slooooow pace
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>>7504799
Nice to have you here germanbro. Guess we're the exact same level.
Why do you learn middle high German?
I've got some dictionaries out of paper, and I agree to you that google translate will make you numb. I will catch a copy of Le Petit robert next month (as nothing else is allowed in our tests).
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>>7504819
how the fuck did you pick up japanese. a friend of mine told me that it's incredibly difficult if you're not of asian heritage.
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>>7504890
Nice to have you here, too; so far it's a good and comfy thread.
>Why do you learn middle high German?
I seldomly paid attention to my German classes during Gymnasium. Therefore, any formal knowledge of grammar was never developed, although I could handle French and English by intuition.
Due to circumstances I am spending two semesters at Uni after having finished my STEM bachelor's degree. I choose Germanistik to live that sweet /lit/-life for a change. Middle High German is the perfect playground, for me, to learn about grammar. Prof puts a lot of focus on verb identification and sentence structure. Also, MHG is just based, history, cross-links to english and all the other germanic languages, pronunciation exercises and the works in MHG, Vogelweide, Hartmann von Aue etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_TMqACTmzI
To put it in short terms: I learn MHG because I want to.
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I can mate in any language.
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I've learned English, Spanish and French from a young age and I'm capable in all of them. I'm most fluent in English, awkward at French and Spanish but I can understand anything you throw at me. Haven't tested myself with a proper Spanish book but I try to move back and forth between English and French. People assume it should be easy for me to learn newer languages so I'm tempted to try German or Russian and hopefully read fluently in either or within a few years.

What I might do is read an English translation and then jump to the heart of the original language, but I wonder if that's smart or if I even have the patience.
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>>7504755
Keep up the good work, you're definitely good at languages
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>>7504747
Belgian detected

Dutch, French, English, Italian right here.
Did read some material at university in German.

Also Latin
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>>7504790
Have you heard the Dugin's way to learn languages? What he does is he spends a couple of days intensively learning grammar, then he proceeds to read any book, only using dictionary for 3 words per page and at this phase understanding, he says, is not important, rather just getting used to the language, and then read more books and eventually it just starts making sense at some point.
>>7504656
I read Infinite jest, which is sometimes complicated, wierdly ETA parts are much more clear than Gately's.
I also will to learn classic languages (we are taught the very basics of Latin in my uni), but I can't find much books available in their original languages.

Just another Russian passing by.
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>>7504897
I'm of Japanese heritage actually, but I was raised in France. I've been taking Japanese lessons since I was 12 though.
I would say that Japanese is not incredibly difficult to pick up. The grammar is rather straight forward and learning the kana syllabaries and a handful of basic kanjis shouldn't take you too long. Grind through a few grammar books, watch loads of anime and you could probably reach conversational level in a year or so.
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English and French, can reasonably understand and awkwardly communicate in Italian, which makes me think that Spanish wouldn't be too tough to start picking up. Would like to learn German and/or Russian, but I'm focusing too much on the others to do anything with that now.
I'm American, so English is my native language, my mother knows French and has helped me out with learning it since I began studying it in 7th grade (21 now). My roommate of the past 2 years is Italian so he helps me out a bit, otherwise Italian is mostly from duolingo and simple texts/news/movies/etc.
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>>7505281
I guess you're gifted. I've been thinking about learning Japanese, but I don't anticipate only one year of studying.
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English is my mother tongue (amerifag), so I can read mostly whatever I want. I'm Korean so I speak Korean but my reading is a bit slow. Not really too much Korean lit so not really a priority. Learning French right now, trying to piece my way through some basic books.
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>>7504747
>dutch is a disgusting language
No it's not, you Bruxellian faggot.
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I am from Azerbaijan and know fluently my mother tounge and Russian. Just like OP i use 4chan and movies to improve my English and after i'm done with it i'd like to star learning French.
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Native Hebrew speaker. Besides that I only know English and I'm trying to learn Norwegian.
Ideas and images usually pop up in my mind way more easily when I write in Hebrew, but since most of the literature and music I enjoy are in the English language (and some others, in music, not books, obviously), it's pretty uncomfortable to use Hebrew. I do write a lot in English, but I think I'm more productive in my native language. So many times I just translate what I wrote into English.
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>>7504656
Spanish, English, French, Italian and Portuguese.
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I read and understand every Earth language, dead or alive, and even imaginary. You all are pathetic faggots who din't even try to look smart.
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>>7506326
Are you male or female? Wanna maybe share our skype nicknames?
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>>7504656

I read English, Spanish, French and Arabic.

Spanish and French are so similar, Arabic is completely different. English is just English.

4 semesters of college French and then some screwing around with reading with a dictionary by myself. It was pretty easy since I know Spanish natively. Arabic was an intensive year of study overseas with a teacher and whatnot. It is kind of difficult and one has to build up a vocabulary. I never had to in French that much because a lot of the words are cognates to English and Spanish.

My advice find a teacher and be consistent. I am thinking about Italian or German next if I self teach or if I can find a teacher Urdu or Persian. With what I have and since I probably won't find a teacher, what should I do next?
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>>7506909
I am male. Your suggestion is very unexpected but I accept it, post your skype nickname and I'll send you a friend request.
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>>7506948
>I am male.

I bet homeboy lost interest though, at least a bit.
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>>7506948
Forget about it, only if you were a chocolate pussy.
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>>7504747
Dutch is amazing, try "nooit meer slapen".
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>>7504656
Italian, English and Polish. Also learned German, Russian and Latin but only at a basic level, no way I can read a complex text.
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>>7506994
I think polish is the most beautiful among others.
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>>7507000
I really like it, different from both English and Italian, even if it doesn't have the same (or as much) musicality it's still a real pleasure to read.
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>>7504656
serb here
can read serbocroatian, english and german, some russian and some french, and a bit of latin

serbian translations of practically everything are really good, none of the style is lost, and pretty much every quirk of most other languages can be naturally simulated in serbian
french, german, russian and english lit lose none of the value when translated
serbocroat is boss
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>>7504656
Grew up speaking mainly English, learned German from my mother and Romanian from my father. Spanish from private schooling. Arabic in my spare time and Korean for studying abroad. Other than Korean and Arabic, all other languages were surprisingly easy to grasp and identify with one another once I reached fluency in my third language (German).

I'm 26 now, do the math.
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>>7505090
Italian would be easy for you, or easiest.
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Persian (mother tounge), English (Second language), Arabic (not that much advance but can understand).
Looking forward to learn Latin, Greek, and some Indo-Iranian languages at university.
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>>7507076
are you a girl or boy?
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What is the fucking point of learning foreign languages if I can speak English already? Stupid people remain being stupid, period.
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>>7507081
Boy, and why do you want to know?
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>>7507096
I'm just horny.
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>>7507106
>>>/pornhub.com/
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you don't have to understand what was said in foreign language to fuck
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>>7507086
this is the saddest comment I've ever read.
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>>7507180
You haven't seen much have you
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>>7507180
Incidentally, I personally fucked over 600 twats in my entire life and as a result have seen a lot in this world. What can YOU tell about yourself? I'm ready for hearing you out.
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>>7504656
My mother tongue is Croatian,I can read literature in english and german without any problem,have sometimes problems in french but I can pass with easier reads,and also Iam taking an arab next month...Its good...
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>>7507222
I've fucked over 700 twats and I've seen even more in this world as a result. Feel a little small now, anon?
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Native portuguese, can read English, French, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish and a bit of german. I definitely prefer reading in English/French. Don't really know why though.
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>>7506267
>>7506983
Dutch is miserable compared to French.
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>>7507391
Dutch, French as well as English all they are primitive compared to sacred Russian.
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>>7507031
Don't even bother with Romanian, it's a waste of time. Source: I'm Romanian.
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>>7504656
I can read in portuguese,english and spanish.I'll start taking russian classes in 2016 and I'm looking forward to read in russian too.My favorite language for reading is portuguese cause is my mother language but I read more in english than in portuguese.
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>>7507031
I sometimes write for fun, check this fragment out, pic related, it's how all the people here look like

Sub nopţile calde pulsaù de dans astfel de teatre ca ale luì Velyn, fiecare cu tavane maì mult saù maì puţin înalte, decorurì vegetale maì mult saù maì puţin înalte, decorurì vegetale maì mult saù maì puţin somptúoase etc. Vocì de ìubirì nebune chiotèaù în toìul paradeì de stele pe bolta cerèască şi a umbrelor petrecăreţilor pe bolţile sălilor: freştele erau desenate în aşa fel încât părèaù să urle de plăcere, acolo sus, captivând atâtèa privirì candide, susceptibilizate de tòate parfumurile, şi ce parfumurì… Asta da atmosferă, cu zoriì ce pândèaù de la părânda infinită distanţă ritmurile instrumentelor, şoldurilor şi umerilor, cu rafinamânt nămaic al portuluì şi gestuluì, permeat de gurì multe de mursă după mursă în care se vădèa la uniì şi prezenţa băuturiì maseltote, un amestec ce dezlega şi lega limbì şi dezlega inhibiţiì şi norme şi lega dans încins şi dezlega mintèa, şi tineriì care se despărţèaù de alţì tinerì să se refugìeze cuplu la lumina nopţiì schimbând ritmul tobelor pe al inimilor ce bătèaù atât de repede acum, pe terasă, la ţărmul de sunet negru: valurì, valurì, valurì, şi stâncì şi èa care se agaţă de umeriì luì, de umeriì meì, ne izbim uniì de alţiì ca nişte valurì, ce momente frânte cu fiecare sărut şi prăpastie de buze, picăturì în marèa lor de vìaţă de mie de anì.
>>7507453
I disagree completely with this fellow, Romanian is a language of great beauty.
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reading all these messages I've come to conclusion that nobody wanna learn and read in chinese notwithstanding its beauty and distribution in comparison to others
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>>7507443
>Language of an ethic group whose name means slave.
>Calling others primitive.
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Catalan, Spanish and English.
I am more comfortable with Catalan since it's my mother tongue, but I can read in Spanish with 0 troubles aswell. In fact, it's the language in which I do most of my reading because finding catalan translations in .epub is almost impossible at times.
I have lived and studied in the UK for the last 2 years so I'm quite proficient in English aswelll, but I still have trouble with more complicated books. I'm reading Woolf right now and, while her prose is astounding, it's certainly hard to follow sometimes. I read much much slower in Enlgish aswell.

Ich kann nicht in Deutsch lesen, obwhol ich für ein Jahr habe gelernt. Ich denke, dass Deutsch ein sehr kompliziert aber schöne Sprache ist.
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Daca dar si daca sti, sa sti cei daca dar sti sa fi. In limba cea mai intin plare s-e intimpla ca e si usoare. O limba prinsa in poezii, cam totul este mai cuvint in vint daca dar sa sti ca nu am zis aproape nimic dar nimic.

It's good for poetry, but I couldn't understand anything you wrote friend, your penis is pulsating during hot nights or something.
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>>7507693
that sounds pretty weird since if text is written in plain proper English, like 'Stoner' for instance, it reads much smoother and more fluently even though I personally started learning it in my 20's and still carry on doing so. Probably that's because of system cases in my mother tongue as well as different variants of spelling of certain words. However, I kinda understand you for when it comes to paying attention more on words order which in slavonic languages isn't that relevant then it feels a little bit unusual and confusing at first. Sorry for my punctuation, didn't spend some time on learning proper grammar yet.
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>>7504706
Spanish is not so hard, and reading languages is the best way to learn them. Just make sure you pronounce the words right and dont sound like an idiot.
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English obviously.
Also I've been learning Gaeilge since I was four, so I'm practically fluent.
I have a fairly good grasp of French, since I learnt in school and went on an exchange to France. I can read Dumas with occasional recourse to a dictionary.
I'm going to be learning Greek and Latin in college in the next few years, which will be amazing.

Before I die, I would love to learn Italian just so I could read Il Commedia Divina. Did anyone ITT learn Italian to read Dante and did they find it difficult to understand?
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>>7507693
>Catalan
Llingua meme pa ser honestu.
Yo lleo n'astur entós.
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>>7505706
Why'd you learn Japanese though? /lit/ speaking, wouldn't it be more worthy to learn Chinese, as they have a more robust lit canon? Do you watch anime?
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>>7508698
what exactly canon are you talking about? 'Cause I really thought that China has no good literature, except Mo Yan of course.
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>>7504656
Hungarian, English, Russian, German.

Since I live in the US I prefer English, and that gives me better access to literature.
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Primary English, can read in Spanish but need practice.

On that note, what's the best place to download ebooks in other languages? I can only find in English on #bookz or bookzz.org, and between those two I'm not sure where else to look.
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>>7508698
I do watch anime sometimes. Not a whole lot; just the basics (Miyazaki, NGE, Attack on Titan). I'm much more interested in Japanese culture. I have family and friends in Japan and I have been there before. It's a place that I could see myself living in one day. Not saying that I will do all that though. I could (and honestly, probably will) quit a quarter of the way through learning the language. Life just gets too busy, ya know?
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>>7504656
>>7504656
english spanish and german

german is my favorite but also my weakest

english is my native, learned spanish second and am learning german now. spanish took two years to read Don Quixote and a total of four years and am now fluent forever, German I've been learning for maybe five months and I'm currently reading Goethe slowly after reading and loving Rilke. I'm learning German much quicker than Spanish, likely because there are similarities between the two, learning a third language after learning one previously is much easier, and I actually care about learning German whereas Spanish was just a shitsandgiggles.

>advice
use a textbook and a workbook, use your language every single day, at least fifteen minutes. everyone can spare fifteen minutes and if you're not practicing you don't care enough to learn.
also, shitpost in the threads on /int/, in my experience (/deutsch/ at least) is welcoming to foreigners and it'll help you use informal language as well as formal. you will get bullied for being shit but you'll improve just as much
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>>7508732
China is a place larger than Europe, has had a robust civilisation for thousands of years before the existence of Rome, has had a written language that is at least 2500 years older than the oldest written work found in Britain, is the region that was the single biggest influence on the culture of all of Asia, a country that Japan worshiped culturally so much that for many centuries Chinese was the preferred language for poetry, this is the place you think doesn't have a strong literary tradition?
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>>7509341
Name at least one chinese masterpiece novel
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>>7509466
>Name at least one

They have what are known as the four great masterpieces. This is their meme tetralogy: Water Margin, Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Journey to the West, and Dream of the Red Chamber.
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>>7509514
wooow there are abundance of em, now i'm getting it. English, French, German and Russian literature sucks.
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>>7509601
4/10 was almost mad.
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Dutch, English and German here. Frisian too but ayy
I'd like to learn Latin, how hard is it to learn by myself?
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>In how many languages can you read
Japanese and English. I have also been learning French on the side. Currently reading Camus cause I'm a pleb.
>which one do you prefer the most?
I guess I'd say French since I'm using French most aggressively at the moment.
>What are the prime differences?
Prime differences? English and French are SVO whereas Japanese is SOV.
>How long did it take you to learn it or are they all your mother tongues at the same time?
English is first, Japanese is second--technically. Both languages I grew up around, but was never keen on learning until later in life (early teens). Currently 22 and I am often mistaken for a native due to both my background and tenacity in learning the language.
>Advices for learners at the initial stage are welcomed.
Don't expend so much effort on memorizing words.
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>>7510026
What should I spend my time doing instead if I want to learn a language?
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I can read English fluently (mother tongue) and can read Latin to an advanced level (both Classical and Medieval) but I wouldn't describe myself as being 'fluent' in it.
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Portuguese, English and Spanish.
Really want to lear French and reading in Korean is a dream.
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With all the time i've spent learning japanese i could have learned at least 2 romance languages.
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>>7504656
Monolingual americunt here. Although gifted with the ability to pick up new concepts and learn quickly, I am afraid that I will never even come close to being one of the pentalingual patricians that permeate this thread. Any tips on picking up a new language/where to even begin this arduous journey? I'm 26 so I'm afraid if I don't start soon I might never have a chance.
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>>7510725
Start witch Michel Thomas course, theen start reading books with translation and original on opposing pages.
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>>7504656

I can read French and English, and I'm working to read Latin and Chinese.

Not bothering with speaking practice. Can't speak French.
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>>7507353
800 twat fucker here, you guys are all gnats dancing in the palm of my hand.
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