/lit/, I am going through a nihilist phase I am actually wishing to overcome it. What are recommended readings?
KJV
>>7472516
this
just be a fucking person and stop being a drama queen. Of course life has no meaning and neither does anything else that we do to fill it up. It doesn't mean that things can't be valuable, have meaning, or be beautiful though. See: The Bible
Just kill yourself my man
Learn to love again.
>>7472520
The Bible is full of shit and won't do you any good if you don't actually want to believe it or if you think that you're above it. OP should try Nietzsche, if he hasn't, yet
>>7472507
take stock of your skills. at this point, you have two options (or not, depending on your flavor of nihilism as regards free will):
1. realize you have no skills, then whither away into either death, or an abject state of unconscious proletariat misery. I'm not sure which is worse
2. realize you are good at approximately three things. chose one and become the best at it in the world, whatever it is. remember, absurdism and nihilism are fecund bedfellows. the more you start to see it like a game, the better you'll become.
you want to get past nihilism?
move into a squat.
try to live on the kindness of other people for a month or so.
at the end you will run straight for the nearest army recruitment center and ask to be signed up as a gun-wielding fascist.
>>7472507
If nothing matters then why does it matter that nothing matters?
>>7472558
Hey nagel
read russian romantics op
>>7472558
reddit tier post
>>7472535
I expect you to read all of this.
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Now for the next generation
Austin begets
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>>7472507
Aristotle.
>>7472507
Industrial society and its future
Just kill an arab my man
>>7472507
You can't overcome nihilism, you can only temporarily escape it for a bit before you slide ride back into it like a spider trapped in a bathtub.
I recommend getting comfortable in your new ideological home.
What should I read if I want to go clear though nihilism and out the other side?
What the fuck, why was my post about reading the Stranger deleted?
It's esp. spooky in context of >>7473922 being posted like 10 mins later
>>7472507
>>7472516
>translation
By growing up perhaps?
>>7472507
Siddhartha
>>7474152
In the Buddha's Words
>overcoming nihilism
>>7472507
Read The Brothers Karamazov and make sure you make notes whilst reading
fuck a bitch on the side
get a motorbike
all this really helped me OP
Dostoevski and Bloy
>>7472595
>reddit tier post
It's true, though
You don't overcome nihilism.
You just make up some bullshit in your head and make yourself think you overcame nihilism, but deep in your heart you still know that you're a nihilist.
>>7474907
Nihilism should be the basis from which everything else is based off of. Yeah, it never goes away, but it's merely the first step.
>>7472558
>>7474785
If nothing matters then why does it matter that nothing matters matter?
>>7472558
Tautology.com
>>7475078
It doesn't. Nothing matters. Which makes any discussion about "mattering" (and nihilism) self-destructive.
>>7475096
How can nothing matter? Nothing cannot matter.
All the meaning is supplied by us human beings. Existence has no value judgments about itself.
>>7475078
because we desire it
>>7472507
Read Siddhartha by Herman Hesse
>>7472549
I have already done my conscription and getting an army job is not easy
Keep in mind that not everyone is American
>>7472549
Do you consider nihilism to be a leftist/anarchism thing or something?
Are you actually going through an existential crisis, or are you going through an edgy "lol I'm so depressed because it's cool to be depressed and I'm smarter than most people" phase.
Pic related
>>7474235
THIS
Bhagavad Gita is 100% based.
>>7475211
>dat stirner
>>7475296
The page has almost 150,000 likes. It's obviously created by a shitposter from /lit/, but those people haven't read The Ego and It's Own and they don't know who Stirner is.
This chapter of dee eff double-u's the pale king
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18000271-the-awakening-of-my-interest-in-advanced-tax
>>7475211
Not sure about OP, but I am going through a true existential crisis and have been looking through the thread for the same answers that the OP is looking for. I am confident that this is an existential crisis because I've gone through phases of fashionable depressions in the past and none of them have been as crushing or persistent as what I am experiencing now. I haven't left my room in the last two weeks because I've become paralyzed by a subconscious feeling that leaving the house would not provide meaning whatsoever, and have spent them, instead, browsing the internet and reading about philosophy in wikipedia pages, message boards, and articles. I understand that I can only attain a shallow understanding of philosophy from these sources and so I am looking for actual books to get me out of this mess. Please help me. I fear for myself.
You're a nihilist because of a lack of faith, right? Well why be a nihilist when even nihilism is refutable. You cant be completely sure nothing matters
>>7475315
I just had a google and realised someone is posting my home made Stirners all over.
It's a weird feel.
>>7472507
Osamu Daizai. Ningen Shikkaku.
Read Prometheus Rising
try to understand that it's not an intellectual thing but an emotional one
so lets say you were in massive euphoria, "nothing matters" wouldn't even really bother you at all because you feel good
the problem isn't "nothing matters" the problem is you aren't enjoying yourself
find a way to enjoy yourself again
nihilism is just intellectualized suffering/misery
>>7475380
Don't you prefer to be well? Nothing you read will be able to convince that anything matters on the cosmic scale because newsflash, nothing does... But if you prefer to be well instead of feeling shitty then that's reason enough to confer meaning to trying to be well before you die, which you most certainly will before too long. Get the fuck out of your room and into the sunshine, you're nothing more than a dumb animal whose emotions depend on futile things
>>7475382
How exactly is nihilism refutable, outside of afterlife arguments?
>>7472507
> I am actually wishing to overcome it.
laughinggirls.jpg
>>7475382
Skepticism almost feels like a lateral move. I guess it might be considered "worse" since you're literally casting doub onto everything
>>7475468
It's just a solace for confusion. If you're confused about meaning, the easiest thing to do is decide that there is none.
>>7472507
Well,you can start by givin up your dreams, the people that care for you, the world, the school and all that shit, or grow a pair and do something for the world that writes your name in the books of history and stop being a fuking godforsaken lemur that lived and died without make any accomplishment because he thinks his existence doesnt meant shit like the 99% of the people that have lived in this planet,like the hobo that live under the brige,like a dog, like the dude who feel he is awesome because pass call of duty, like the girl that makes stupid post in facebook, yea you can do that because it doesnt matter.
>>7475971
oh my
>>7472507
>>7475992
/lit/ is /r9k/ 2.0, didn't ya know?
nihilism and most negative philosophies are the result of having too much free time.
Learn a language or something occupy your mind so the weight of insignificance stops mattering.
>>7475420
Thanks for this post.
>>7472507
>thinking you can overcome the truth
You can delude yourself I guess, but you'll never "overcome" nihilism.
Ulysses
>>7477171
>thinking nihilism is the truth
>>7475420
this guy is right.
intellectual suffering is the most pleb of all suffering. it's like you got smart enough to consider the bigger things and instead of approaching them rationally and furthering the growth of intellect, you just got sad "Now that I know how can I be happy? :(((((( muh ignorance IS bliss"
>>7477171
Who cares if nihilism is the truth? In the end, it doesn't really matter at all.
>>7474907
>You don't overcome nihilism.
>You just make up some bullshit in your head and make yourself think you overcame nihilism, but deep in your heart you still know that you're a nihilist.
Phew. I thought that I was the only one.
>>7475420
>try to understand that it's not an intellectual thing but an emotional one
>the problem isn't "nothing matters" the problem is you aren't enjoying yourself
>find a way to enjoy yourself again
This is so simple, but it makes so much sense. Why does it seem like this is overlooked as often as it is?
>>7472597
mfw when last night i listened to the alexander scoursby reading of luke and heard this bit and giggled at first, then found a pleasing rhythm, then found a truth 2deep4 this fag
and now i lol again
but to answer OP - Nietszche and KJV
>>7475380
shortest prescription possible
ecclesiastes
>>7477381
YOU FORGET THE FUCKING CAPRICE!
>>7477400
I DO WHAT I WANT FUCK YOU
Just because no ultimate or eternal values/meanings/truths exist does not mean that no values/meanings/truths exist.
God's death is the death of the absolute and the death of the values that depend on an absolute.
Up to you to create new values that can serve life. New values that don't require a supernatural back-world.
If you want to go around believing wah wah thinks suck I should kill myself, then fine! Try out that way out life and see how it works.
Experimentation is the new method. We are all at sea.
>>7472516
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.” -(attributed to Isaac Asimov)
OP, to "overcome" nihilism would require a small sacrifice of intellectual honesty, but since literally everything else about the human experience impels you toward anything else at all, you ought to be able to do this if you really want. And there's no reason not to, since it literally doesn't matter either way, and you would presumably prefer to have a more pleasant inner life.
Since you're already redpilled as the kids say, the best that you can do is to mollify your current outlook with existentialist lit.
You could of course take up a mainstream religion, but I'd rather you didn't.
Not that it matters.
>>7477439
Did Asimov read the entire bible?
I remember my first real existential crisis, I'd had minor ones throughout highschool where I realised I was gonna die one day and there'd be a eternity f nothingness and all that
but when I was 19 I was on the way to see the new star trek movie and remember stepping out of my car and it just hitting me
that reality/ time/ life was al an illusion and that in the blink of an eye i'd be on my deathbed and that nothingness would consume me for eternity
like that was the moment I fully comprehended the idea, if that makes sense
I couldn't enjoy the movie at all and for the next 4 months I thought abut death and the meaningless of life probably as often as I think about sex
It was very daunting to say the least, a lot of sleepless nights and such
I h been fucking around with acid a bit before it happened though so that probably exacerbated things
>>7479062
apologies for the poor typing but i'm in bed with my laptop in the double chin claw stance and it's difficult to type
camus
>>7479062
DUDE LSD LMAO
DUDE DRUGS DONT ACTUALLY PROVIDE ANY INSIGHT THEY JUST MAKE THE MUNDANE SEEM DEEP LMAO
DUDE EGO DEATH IS A MEME LMAO
DUDE DRUG INDUCED EGO DEATH IS NOT REAL BECAUSE NOTHING CAN SEPERATE US FROM THE SUM OF OUR EXPERIENCES WITHOUT PERMANTENTLY DAMAGING THE BRAIN LMAO
>>7472533
>>7479292
DUDE "DUDE DRUGS LMAO" LMAO
Get laid
