I really fell in love with Albert Camus. Especially with "The Myth of Sisyphus". It has changed my whole perspective of the sense of life and the obligations we have.
How has it changed your life?
good for you
The World As Will and Representation
Thus Spoke Zarathustra
Notes From the Underground
All of Kafka's novels
Hamsun's Hunger
recommended
Nietzsche desu senpai
I channel my nihilism like ki. The other day I announced in the store I work at that I would steal candy. Then I stole candy and left. I got free candy because it didn't matter if I lost my job. But of course now I'm in the odd paradoxical position where the candy doesn't matter either.
And this post doesn't matter.
But I guess what I'm saying is: if you focus your nihilism, you can achieve things that don't matter.
>>7455044
Camus is for illiterate teenagers.
>>7455073
Post-post: I didn't get fired.
>>7455044
Any examples of stuff you do differently after reading 'the myth of sisyphus'?
>>7455077
>>7455085
I think it was a process which took over years. Reading Nietzsche, Dostojewskij, Kafka Camus and lots of other guys. I came to the point i realized that all the laws we have all the boundarys we have only exists in our mind. The only exist as long as we accept them. In my opinion this awareness gives me the opportunity to life my life how i like it to be and not how society and laws tell me. No one but me is responsible for my happiness.
>>7455077
n i c e m e m e
>>7455056
>World As Will and Representation
>nihilistic
this board is a joke
>>7455114
>I came to the point i realized that all the laws we have all the boundarys we have only exists in our mind.
Coulda just read Stirner
>>7455114
Are you german or polish etc.?
>>7455044
Cool! Now try the non-pop-phil!
>>7455044
> How has Existenizalism/ Nihilism changed your life
I immediately rejected them and reverted me back to Traditionalism.
>>7455073
Truth. To take the Meme to the Xtreame, the biggest criticism of Stirner is that he doesn't go far enough. You can regard certain constructs as "spooks" in order to achieve your ends, but eventually you will realise that the benefits you derive from the dismantling of those constructs are themselves constructs.
It's impossible to channel nihilism because it would mean deluding oneself into believing that something has intrinsic meaning. It must be nothing or not at all, so to speak.
>>7455149
or thought for themselves
Existentialism is just the psychology of Cartesian metaphysics
your thought is not prior to your being; you already have an essence before you begin to think and self-reflect; the world exists outside of your own thought.
>>7455316
I thought "essence" only comes into play when you consider two or more consciousnesses. You can consider your own essence in certain conditions sure but it's pointless (unnecessary) if there are no Others who create it.
now i tell the butcher to kill himself kek
hope he lives though look out aliens
>>7455044
>obligations we have
You're going to tell me what I'm obliged to do. Thanks, Camoose. Such good of philosopher.
camus is for high schoolers
teachers assign the stranger because it's the only "literary" book short enough that people will actually read it
>>7455324
>all those words to say nothing
This is why existentialism is dead.
>>7455895
Don't worry, muslims will have it banned soon.
>>7455899
Why would we ban it? Is it because an Arab was killed in the novel? Camus was against French colonialism and actions in Algeria.
>>7455905
It doesn't advance the Islamic conquest of Europe. Extremely haram. If Camus wanted to be tolerant he should have made the Arab the hero of the book, shot by the evil National Front voter Mersault, whose bullets were deflected by the heroic Arab's piousness and faith in Allah. A fatwah is issued on Mersault, who is hunted down and then righteously beheaded. Now that would be a literary classic worthy of modern France.
>>7455914
I don't agree. Why do you personally support this measure?
>>7455917
What do you mean? I'm just trying to work out a version of L'etranger that would be acceptable to muslims.
It should also have more white women being impregnated by Muslim men in ornate harems.
>>7455922
Kamal Dawud already wrote a reply to The Stranger.
Once again, why do you want to make this version? No one is calling for it. I don't think I'd read it if you wrote it.
>>7455922
no no no at the end mursalt converts to islam so his soul can be saved right before jihadi johnny slashes his throat and uploads it to youtube
>>7455914
infidels btfo
>>7455929
Youtube wasn't invented when France colonized Algeria and committed its atrocities.
Are you confused?
>>7455044
only the eternal return changes your life since it means that as soon as you accept samsara, as soon as you stop despising life, as soon as you stop being a nihilist, your existence changes in accessing a different perspective on existence. the eternal return is a surrender, an abdication of your self before your sufferings and joys stemming form your failure to fulfil your wish to live in hedonism, in avidity towards pleasures and aversion towards pains. once you abdicate, you destroy hedonism.
existentialism is a nihilism since it despises life so much that he tries to change it.
>>7455927
Nobody would need to read it because this is what is happening in France presently. There is no need to write literature about something that is happening in reality.
>>7455934
I can take or leave Youtube, but the crucial thing is that whites are eliminated from Europe and replaced with Arabs.
>>7455934
this will be the new updated version for Islamic Europe
16-23 year olds, the thread. Report back closer to 30 when you actually almost kind of begin to know shit about life. If life is meaning less and nothing matters and there is no truth then how come you say it like your right?
>>7455940
I don't think you've read the book because it doesn't discuss that at all.
Why are you on /lit/ if you don't read books?
>crucial thing is that whites are eliminated from Europe and replaced with Arabs
Are you part of Da'ish? I didn't know they were on 4chan.
>>7455946
>Are you part of Da'ish? I didn't know they were on 4chan.
they're all over the internet, do u live in a cave faggot
>>7455952
No, I don't. I didn't know Da'ish used 4chan.
I recommend you to read The Complete Manual of Suicide by Wataru Tsurumi.
>>7455960
I recommend you figure out why the quality of life in Hong Kong is different from Mogadishu, Tehran, Riyadh or Beirut.
>>7455960
don't think Japs are safe hiding out on that fucking island if we could could conquer Indonesia we can get Japan too bitch, then those gay ass cartoons can finally be wiped out
>>7455963
I recommend you kill yourself and only your allies within proximity. Da'ish should stop existing. Leave 4chan.
>>7455968
?
Can you speak English? Google Translate's Arabic to English function isn't that good.
>>7455971
Da'esh isn't doing anything that isn't in the Koran bro, why are you such a fucking bigot against our muslim brothers and sisters?
>>7455977
I should also add Google Translate's English to Arabic function isn't that good. That would be the only appropriate explanation for why your posts indicate that you have very low reading comprehension, perhaps that of a kindergartner.
Da'ish doesn't belong here. Leave.
>>7455976
I can't wait till Da'esh finds your stash of cartoon pedo porn and chops your head off in the town square so i can watch it in a loop on vine
>>7455983
>Da'ish doesn't belong here. Leave.
fuck off with your Islamophobic bullshit asshole, everyone has a right to use 4chan
>>7455984
I don't watch porn. Why are there so many of you extremists on 4chan?
Isn't this illegal? Is there a way to contact authorities to break off your internet? Give me a sec. I'll check for options on how to do that.
>>7455980
?
If Da'ish isn't acting according to the Qur'an like you said, why should I support them?
>>7455988
>right to 4chan
You're a fag
>>7455988
There is not a right to use 4chan. Justify why you think so please.
>>7455992
>I don't watch porn.
Just wait till Da'esh hacks into Google or some NSA archive and finds all your fucking gay ass posts on tumblr about being a furry faggot!
>>7455996
But you said that they weren't acting according to the Qur'an?
Is this Da'ish's famous "ta-kee-yeah"?
You are very strange.
>>7455999
I don't know what you are talking about. Please don't tell me your fetishes. Thank you.
>>7456006
God knows and he's sending Da'esh to punish you, get your body ready, faggot
>>7456005
>freedom of expression
According to who? Is 4chan acting illegally or immorally when it bars children from posting or when it bans people? You should contact your government after you get banned soon.
>I never said they weren't
Another person said that they weren't. Maybe you'd like to debate with him then.
>>7456007
I am not a homosexual. Thank you.
>>7456010
>According to who? Is 4chan acting illegally or immorally when it bars children from posting or when it bans people? You should contact your government after you get banned soon.
Why would he get banned? For "extremism" which is to say his devout Islamic faith? Ever seen the shit people post in /pol/?
>>7456021
Perhaps for shitposting and the quality of his posts, under GR3 and GR6. This is the mods' decision, however, to apply these rulings to this particular case.
>>7456028
and maybe YOU'LL be banned for racism considering you just tried to get someone banned for being muslim
>>7456032
You misunderstand. Once again, based on your extremely low reading comprehension which must only come from interpreting Google Translate translations, the mods would be merited to at the very least delete his posts and give a warning for the quality of his posts.
I suggest you read the rules so that you don't appear so uninformed next time.
http://www.4chan.org/rules#global
I think I've been a nihilist all along and will never not be a nihilist.
This negation is the most I can commit to beyond scepticism, any other belief doesn't really work.
>>7456032
>religions are ethnicities now
Literally, about 10 days ago, I learned that Camus' name was pronounced as "Kam-Moo" and not "Kay-Muss" like I thought it was.
I have no idea what other authors I've mispronounced over the years.
>>7456191
Do you know how to pronounce Goethe?
>>7456194
I've always pronounced it as Goth or Geth.
>>7456200
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sC-bjMO4_g
>>7456204
Goo-tay? GOO-TAY???
Who the fuck else have I been pronouncing wrong?!!!
>>7456191
I used to make that mistake too.
>>7456209
Name some foreign authors you read.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkxCo0-OD8g
>>7456229
For whatever reason, I actually knew how to pronounce Sartre. I remember not totally fucking up Proust, though.
Makes me sound like an imbecile.
>>7456239
I used to pronounce "Sartre" like Carter with an s. It's fine. If you listen to lectures about these guys, then eventually you realize how to pronounce them (approximately) correctly.
>>7456247
>I used to pronounce "Sartre" like Carter with an s. It's fine.
hahahaha no it's not
>>7456257
I think you misunderstand what I meant to say. "It's fine" to make mistakes and then amend them later. Getting embarrassed about it is natural but there's no need to fret over it.
>>7456277
it's best to just look up how things are pronounced before you pronounce them to be quite frank
>>7456279
Not everyone has high-speed internet and some of us are introduced to these authors at a young age.
>>7456281
I think relatively few people these days come into contract with Sartre before they come into contact with computers.
>>7456353
>he didn't read Sartre and most other philosophy by the age of 13
Kill yourself weakling.
>>7456353
Well, I didn't get to have my own computer until I went to college. At home, my only computer usage was for homework or for an hour to have fun.
>>7456356
>he didn't know how to operate a computer before the age of 13
are you dumb, poor or both?
I've decided to invent my own morals and my own eclectic philosophy by cherry-picking pieces from different sources. My ultimate goal is to live life simply and happily.
I am also preparing to fight the muslim invasion. I will not curtail to Islam when it reaches my country. Jihadis be warned.
>>7456585
>curtail
This isn't the word you were looking for but otherwise 9/10 post.
>>7456585
>I am also preparing to fight the muslim invasion. I will not curtail to Islam when it reaches my country. Jihadis be warned.
lol
>>7456279
>having that much free time that you can afford to look up how to pronounce shit
>not spending that time reading or introducing yourself to new concepts
kill yourself tbhfam
>>7455044
When I first got into Nietzsche, Schoppy and Cioran I was devastated, around 18-19. Luckily I found my way out of that bottomless pit.
Ponder the relationship between representation (concept and language) vs. object (that which you experience in immediacy) and you might just see the inherent invalidity also in their messages.
Hint: 'meaning' in itself is as meaningless as any other meaning or purpose; the problem is not that there is no objective meaning, but the very conception of meaning itself being preemptive, utterly fictitious, a fantasy, social convention.
I'm happy nowadays.
>>7455044
Anyone got that image where it's the sad nihilism, and then "what nihilism really is" and it's a happy guy with NOTHING MATTERS over it
>>7456848
Did you even read the myth of Sisyphus? The point is we the human just get thrown in to our life if we like it or not. First we exist and then we ask why and create our essence. "l'existence précède l'essence"- Sartre. But it is up to our self how we create our life and what we are gonna do with it. This is why Camus uses Sisyphus as an example. Sisyphus got banned to roll this fucking stone up the hill and it rolls down again. But it is up to Sisyphus how he deals with it. And this punishment is only a punishment as long as he accepts it as one. "One must imagine Sisyphus happy"
>>7457031
OP asked how it affected us, I reply aptly with the depressive effect it had on me when my comfy bubble was bursted. By happenstance I was just exploring Schoppy and Cioran at the time which as it seems many people do. Your objection is unintelligible.
What I've been trying to say is that the notion of meaning in life is optional and that only once you choose it for yourself can you suffer the consequences of not finding an objective such, alternatively finding the situation absurd.
For anyone interested I'd recommend Popper, Kuhn, Wittgenstein and some eastern mysticism to see clearly the situation in which a nihilist or existentialist finds oneself in.
>doomed to roll a fucking rock up a hill for eternity
Imagine le Sisyphus happy!!
>tied to a chair and forced to watch as your family is tortured to death
Imagine le man happy!!
>getting your head cut off by sandnigger
Imagine le man happy!!
Camus is literal shit tier ideology for high school kids, almost as big a copout as Kierkegaard.
>>7455044
very edgy thread
like nothing means anything man haha
we're just specs of dust man lol damn
i just feel like its a social construct you know?
do you think theyd tell us the cure for cancer if they did find it woah man
>>7457455
>i just feel like its a social construct you know?
>hurr durr all my /pol/ spooks are the same
>>7457455
congrats, this is the spookiest fucking post I've seen in a while.
>>7458680
>thinking that religion is not the same as race is /pol/ now
calm down ben affleck
>>7457455
Can you elaborate on your attack on existentialism?
>>7457452
>almost as big a copout as Kierkegaard.
I'll fight you
>>7456585
Godspeed anon
>>7456848
>Hint: 'meaning' in itself is as meaningless as any other meaning or purpose; the problem is not that there is no objective meaning, but the very conception of meaning itself being preemptive, utterly fictitious, a fantasy, social convention.
Holy shit I hadn't thought about it like that. Can you expand a bit more?
>>7456585
How will you do it "simply" ?
>>7456848
>"the problem is not that there is no objective meaning, but the very conception of meaning itself being preemptive, utterly fictitious, a fantasy, social convention."
>This is somehow opposed to Nietzsche, who left you in a bottomless pit
>"Behold, I teach you the overman! The overman is the meaning of the earth. Let your will say: the overman shall be the meaning of the earth!" - TSZ
>>7460504
He's a dipshit life-denier who probably works at Starbucks. Let him analyze his sounds in peace and get back to reading. He has no answer for you.
>>7455114
>Dostojewskij
Isnt he meant to lead to the opposite conclusion?
>>7455998
Anon, please, why are you still replying.
