Is there any good m/m romance out there? Or is it all fanfic tier shit?
>>7454490
There's plenty of /lit/ with homoerotic tones if you look at them a certain way, but I can't say I can think of many gay books worth reading.
If you're desperate, you could always read Hogg.
>>7454490
William S. Burroughs have tons of gay shit. Queer and Naked Lunch particularly
obviously the idiot by dostoevsky
>>7454490
The Goldfinch, sort of
Giovanni's Room. The ending is a bit soap opera though
Maurice by EM Forester is probably the most /lit/ m/m book around
The Picture of Dorian Gray is some of the gayest shit I've ever read
>>7454490
Plato's symposium
Brokeback Mountain is pretty good, but it's a short story not a novel
darlinghurst heroes is actually very touching, if sad.
Moby Dick
>>7454490
>>/lgbt/
GTFO fag
>>7454490
Are there any good redpilled books about exposing the degeneracy of the homosexual lifestyle? Or any books that could, theoretically, help a friend of mine who's suffering from unwanted gay thoughts?
>>7454550
Seconding Giovanni's room
>>7454702
Plato's symposium
>>7454702
>Are there any good redpilled books about exposing the degeneracy of the homosexual lifestyle?
Eco - Name of the Rose
>faggots literally bring the apocalypse
>Or any books that could, theoretically, help a friend of mine who's suffering from unwanted gay thoughts?
The Bible
Naked lunch.
Already been said but it's a classic and should be read anyway.
>>7454702
my diary, 2bh
>>7454735
>>faggots literally bring the apocalypse
that was all a scam
and if it wasnt for those pesky Franciscans, he would have got away with it
technically m/m can't love each other, they have no prospect of creating offspring together so they rarely care about the other, or the world, or posterity... their relationships are focused around sex and fetishism in self-centered way
Im sure there are novels that make gay couples seem like they are in love mimicking healthy hetero couples, novels are fiction after all
>>7454756
underrated post
>>7454490
it would be really forced and contrived. If a relationship is based around a fetish it's not genuine love. something like 80% of gay couples admit to cheating on their partner or agreeing to be in an open relationship.
>>7454735
It's weird to me that people believe God created the world and everything in it, provides Man with free will, yet spends all his time monitoring what people do with their penises.
Even if it was true, it'd be so fucking sad one couldn't possibly take it seriously.
>>7454802
I don't think having sex with someone else means you don't love your partner. It's indicative, but not conclusory.
>>7454490
Nathaneal West is a good one
Check out Miss LonelyHearts
this is so goofy. I'd sooner believe in pedophile love than homosexual love
can we stop with these shill threads r9k?
>>7454795
edgiest and most pseudo-intelligent shit I've read all day
>he thinks love is based around the idea of pro-creation
oh boy
>>7454831
>removing the feminine aspect & procreation from the love formula
>two men butt buggering
just a sex fetish nothing more.
>>7454861
>two men butt buggering
ya apparently getting shit-dick is love. It's like we live in the twilight zone
>>7454861
Heteros are even worse, though. Hetero relationship requires a man to fuck a woman, it requires a man to insert his penis into an inferior being and thus degrade himself. The radical difference between genders also makes true understanding and love impossible - a man can understand a man, but cannot truly understand a woman.
>procreation
This is just an another bad thing about hetero relationships - you are expected to create a being that will only suffer its whole life, will devour years and years of your life and money and will take away your freedom. Essentially, you'll enslave yourself. If you think doing this is correct and moral, go ahead, but don't expect everyone else to do the same.
>>7455007
>implying putting a dick in a thing that leaks blood and piss, where Tyrone and Chad came and dead babies were aborted out of is love
Nah
Embrace the boypussy, desu senpai
>>7455007
>getting shit dick is love
lmao.
>>7455055
the whole beauty and point of love is the union of the masculine with feminine. the yin and yang, the rough and soft, the strong and the fragile. It's about completion and becoming whole, a mysterious symbiosis of two elements yearning to be together from time immemorial.
The union generates life and gives meaning to the world and places importance on posterity.
This whole dynamic is missing in homosexuality that's why it can only be understood as a simple sex fetish. There is no mystical union of yin and yang, there is no generation of life, there is no importance on posterity via the family and childbearing.
It's really just an inferior form of masturbation where one man uses another mans asshole as a replacement for his hand
>>7454802
>80% of gays cheat or are in open relationships
yes polygamy is rampant among them, but a funnier statistic is that only 3% of the population is gay but they account for over 51% of the HIV cases
it's like nature is trying to get rid of them
>>7455088
>a mysterious symbiosis of two elements yearning to be together from time immemorial.
I can't even express how spooked this is. Your whole post is a bunch of pretty words and metaphors but no substance whatsoever. Trying to write a counterargument would be like trying to kick fog. Write something if you want a reply because I can't reply to nothing.
>>7455104
>it's like nature is trying to get rid of them
Nature could've already gotten rid of homosexuality in the previous millions of years of evolution. And yet...
>>7455137
>Nature could've already gotten rid of homosexuality in the previous millions of years of evolution.
That's because it isn't genetic, dummy.
>>7454802
>only enter homo relationship with other 4channers
>everyone here is an awkward virgin
>we remain pure and faithful
Only 4chan love is real love
>>7454490
I didn't read it but what about Teleny
Leave to good ole jco.
>>7455172
I'm just gonna post the alternative covers for funzies.
confusion by stefan zweig is good
>this entire thread
>>7455088
/thread
>>7455144
That doesn't work. I was in homo relationship with a dude I met on /a/ and he cheated on me without remorse.
Though to be fair, he was also tumblr cancer so that may have been a contributing factor.
>>7455088
fags btfo
Pedo rights when?
>>7454795
But what if his butt inspires me to create legendary philosophy and literature? Doesn't such a relationship make standard procreation look tawdry and pale in comparison?
>>7455368
After the collapse of society.
>>7455359
I might have been overly negative when I said this. He was a bad person to be in a relationship with and it's not the fault of the board. I'm sure the autism of the average anon will forge bonds beyond time. Pic related.
>>7455385
But why gays get rights but I can't have sex with a 12 year old?
>>7455410
Because we're more socially acceptable than you at the moment. If you want to bang 3DPD 12 year-olds, then you could always move to somewhere in SEA. Police there don't give a fuck as long as you've got enough money.
>>7455410
>I know nothing about law and order
Because children aren't properly matured enough to consent. Children can't even consent to binding contracts, son. Why would the law acknowledge they're of proper minds to consent to sexual conduct?
Sadly, this argument has a lot of traction on 4chan, but it makes no sense to compare the relationship between two consenting adults with that of paedophilia. The two are wholly incomparable. The better argument is for bigamy, but even that is so different as to be moot.
Not even gay; just not a retard.
>>7455418
Japan has 12 year old prostitutes, their rape rates are the lowest in the world
Why can't we be the same
>>7455423
>12 year olds can't consent or think for themselves
laughinggirls.jpg
>>7455433
>can't consent or think for themselves
they can but only with their underdeveloped child brains that should not be taken seriously
>>7454805
>being this retarded.
If everything was created for a purpose, then free all was created for an intended use, and in all religions it is to exercise that free will in the best way possible.
>>7455439
You've never really talked to a 12 year old have you?
There's a reason people say girls mature fast
>>7454795
A case where someone clearly hasn't read the Greeks first
>>7455088
Meh. That's a painful oversimplification of the genders. In heterosexuality alone, there are so many different dynamics that you can't just some it up as some magical taoist pairing.
>>7455444
it doesn't matter how you perceive them through your degenerate pedo-vision. it's objective truth that the part of their brains responsible for reasoning are not fully developed at 12.
>>7455424
Their "reported" rape rates are the lowest in the world, that's the important distinction to make. Japanese culture is such that if you get raped, then it's your fault. It brings a great deal of shame onto you and your household, so you either shut up about it or prepare to deal with the hassles of their terrible legal system to try to get justice.
>>7454795
Hey m8, I saw you on /hm/ the other day. How goes it?
>>>/hm/1253527
>>7455454
No, that's your and our society's vision.
There was no problem until recently, and still isn't in Japan and other countries.
You're the one with distorted views making "objective" claims without evidence because you're so convinced it to be true
>>7455470
>No, that's your and our society's vision
No if you look at a brain scan of a 12yo and an adult you will see that they are not the same.
http://www.scholastic.com/parents/resources/article/stages-milestones/cognitive-development-11-13-year-olds
At 11-12 you've only just started to be able to understand abstract concepts.
>>7455487
12 year olds masturbate and start exploring their sexualities
Quite often they also being relationships with each other
The main reason they don't do it with older adolescents is because of the social stigma and the expectation that you have to date around your age group
Do you think its acceptable for girls to date boys their age, but no 4-5 years older?
This somehow affects their brain?
I fail to see how this is true
>>7455670
The same age group sex is regarded as ok because older people take advantage of the young and inexperienced.
>>7455715
Black people also commit more crime than white people
Should they all be treated as criminals?
>>7455782
Read a logic book and stop bothering people with your idiocy.
>>7455786
>older people tend to take advantage of the young
Yeah, this is baseless. I was just responding with the same degree of intellect :^)
Does anyone else despise the act of placing books into a "gay/lesbian" genre? Sorry to sound sjw, but there isn't a "straight" genre.
>>7454686
fucking fascist, get out.
I can recommend fanfic. Try "Bathing" (Jojen Reed/Bran Stark). That´s really something. I have more than 100 Bran/Jojen short stories. They are all great. I talked with one, I think he was a sissy boy or something, author of a long story once via e-mail. Really nice.
