Are subcultures simply groups that allow participants to engage in alternative forms of cultural expression, or do they provide participants with the tools to actively resist political and cultural hegemony?
>>7436648
My question is just as philosophical as it is historical
>>7436645
>Are subcultures simply groups that allow participants to engage in alternative forms of cultural expression
for weak readings of alternative, sure.
>do they provide participants with the tools to actively resist political and cultural hegemony?
no
depends on what we're talking about
the genuinely subversive 'punk' culture is very different from people playing dressup like you posted above
They're mostly for teenagers.
>>7436651
Yet somehow just not about literature still
>>7436662
I used it as an example, it could be specifically traditional punk or subcultures in general.
>>7436645
I always lol at people calling themselves "Punk" and not realizing that's a directly self-contradictory thing to do.
>You just don't understand what it is to be punk
Oh okay, you're not a trendy shit child, this isn't image consciousness or anything.
>>7436645
I think anyone dressing up and attaching a label to themselves should basically just be ignored until we check again at age 25 whether or not they're worth listening to.
Their alternative expression is one of different consumption patterns, thus they never actually step out of capitalism and are easily absorbed by it. The guys in the OP probably bought that stuff (manufactured in some Indonesian gulag no doubt) in a Hot Topic.
>>7436724
bretty good
hahahahahahahahah you have to read Dick Hebdige's dense prose now, OP.
Subculture: The Meaning of Style (1979) is where you start
>>7436709
Kinda tired of hearing this argument. Yeah, we get it, saying that you're punk is the height of unpunkness. Who fucking cares.
This thread would probably be better suited to /mu/ desu
>>7437720
I had to read it for a university course last year, you're not wrong about the prose.
>>7436645
60s-70s Hippies
80s- Punks
90s- HipHop
00s- Hipsters
2014- Ironic Memers
2015- Neo-christian Nationalists
what's next /lit/?
>>7437668
This. I'm sure someone somewhere used to wear stuff like that just as a sincere fuck you to normies, but if you can buy a punk starter kit at the mall then you're just paying normies to not look like them.
>>7438140
2010's is accelerationists- ur memers and ur nrxers are both in that