Which does /lit/ value more: prose, or good storytelling?
What if I told you 'word economy' is both 'prose' AND 'storytelling,' and that it's literally the entire craft of writing
A nice prose can save the worst story or even take its place. The best storytelling skills can't deal with an average prose, on the other hand.
>>7398848
I disagree
>>7398845
stupid, you're just saying that good books contain 'good use of words'. Considering that writing is literally nothing but the use of words, of the prose/story dichotonomy you're just saying that what matters is 'good writing'. No shit sherlock. Twat.
>>7398872
the act of selectively arranging words is the entire job, whether the words constitute a sentence of a story. The first word < the right word, and there's always a right word because words are the only way we can contextualize our surroundings.
>>7398848
I'd say the opposite
prose, obviously.
storytelling is a parasite on the non-plastic arts.
How come it's always "prose vs. plot"? Does no one care about character development or themes?
![UlyssesCover[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TukOkDw.jpg "UlyssesCover[1].jpg")
>Story: Just an average day in the life of a kek
>Prose: Amazing and groundbreaking
>hailed as a masterpiece
I think we all know what's more important here.
>>7399822
No one said plot, anon. In my post I said storytelling, which is a product of many different things including character development.
>>7399835
Other people's opinions of a work?
>>7398842
I think you need both.
>>7399863
Bingo!
>>7399858
People use the words plot, story, and storytelling so interchangeably that I don't really know what anyone means when they use those words anymore.
>>7399863
unironic lmao
>>7399863
>le only my special subjective opinion of a work matters :^)
>>7399835
I disliked how meaningless the story in Ulysses felt. I’ve read other novels which consisted mostly of the protagonist walking around town, or people sitting in a room and talking, but in Ulysses the plot felt like it only existed because it needed to; it seemed like something that just was there to give Joyce the opportunity to show his skills. Many of the episodes – while written beautifully and with the utmost meticulousness and skill – felt mostly unimportant; only in few of did something important happen – by important I do not mean important from the perspective of plot or character development or the like; the plot steadily advances from episode to episode. Tremendously well written as it was, Ulysses convinced me that good prose alone does not make a novel complete: it needs to have a purpose.
>>7400195
It does have importance. It comes from the Characters. Leopold Bloom is one of the most complete characters in literary history and a very admirable man as well. And there are many important character moments. Don't tell me during Molly's soliliquy at the end all you thought was, "This sure sounds pretty, but nothing's hapening, really."
I value the biggest big big prose tbqhfamalafams
Eat shit faggot
>>7398842
good storytelling comes with good prose in my opinion. What do you mean?
>storytelling
people actually read for story?
>>7398842
>prose, or good storytelling
Both
What in the fuck is prose anyways
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