Lolita (Nabokov) discussion?
>>7377925
me, shoulder.
Light
>>7377925
Thinking of getting this for my Girlfriend for christmas, is it decent?
>>7378707
yep. nothing like 50 shades if that's what you're wondering, but definitely more shocking. good read imo
>>7377925
>"I think you tore something inside of me "
>"I took her two times in the hotel room"
>she's sick
>I wan some fuc
>make her ride it
Not even pedo, and this shit got me twitching.
>>7378771
yea. yet H.H told the story in a way that you actually sympathised with him. I found that pretty disturbing desu
>>7378787
imo*
I think Lolita is very similar to Crime and Punshment in several ways: both get inside the mind of a criminal, someone who does something that is morally detestable to our society, and try to analyse it in the characters's justifications and phsycology. Furthermore, it exposes the supposed "moral relativity", in one's existencialist view. (as in a crime supposed grotesque by the people is seen as normal, - and even a good thing)
>>7378920
exactly :)
>>7378920
Also, despite of all this, I think the stronger quality of the book is it's marvelous prose. Nabokov, apart from being a true 4chanish autist, was a really good writer in this sense.
Also, sorry for my bad english, not my native language. I'm reading Lolita in english, tough. Fuck that vocabulary! I think I'm going to buy a kindle to have that nice dictionary, what do you guys think?
>>7378933
yes I found it very delicate with it's highly convoluted prose. A dictionary would be helpful, Nabokov also wrote it in Russian. What's your native language?
>>7378933
>Fuck that vocabulary
Tell me about it, I'm halfway through Pnin and already looked up over 600 words.
It's really good though.
>>7378933
Same I've read Lolita with a dictionary next to me. The translation was nowhere near the original
>>7377925
overrated, the prose is great though
>>7378942
Sorry for the delay! It's brazilian portuguese. Guess it won't help much with Nabokov, heh.
>>7378933
My native language is not english etiehr and I wanted to order the book in english, but when I found info on how difficult it's vocabulary I decided not to order it.
It took me two weeks to finish the book because of the fucking french.
>>7378787
Humbert is such a clever charlatan that he's even able to manipulate the reader.
Of course, something even stranger happens towards the end. I need to read it again, but from what I've heard the real twist is that H.H. starts to realize he's powerless precisely because he's a character in a story. This would make the book a postmodern experiment twice over, with an unreliable narrator who realizes he's stuck in a novel.
Nabokov also stated that the book means absolutely nothing, that allegory can go to hell. As such, the experiment is purely aesthetic. It's as if he wanted everyone to know forever "I'm so good at this shit that I can simply have a laff without worrying for a second about deeper meaning."
>>7377925
>Not bragging about your prose on page 1.
Also I get several boners throughout. Even had to rub one out from time to time.
>>7380074
Yes, the prose also gave me boners.
>>7380074
4chan posters keep talking about their Lolita boners. Seems I was able to resist it. Maybe it's because I was so deeply depressed at the time when I read it.
what is it about those legs? am I just destined to be some kind of pervert
Is the audiobook narrated by Jeremy Irons good?
Does anybody have the copypasta of the guy buying it at Barnes & Noble?
>>7380092
I needed an extra tub of vaseline in the week that I read it and still my fleshy member was a raw spoiled pepperoni.
>>7380300
Currently listening to this. Very good. Excellent, in fact.
>>7379930
wow really? I didn't pick up on that. Thanks! I'll have to read it again
>>7380414
I'd like to read that.
>>7380415
Now thats good prose.
>>7380774
>>7380414
>be at the library
>grab the memetrilogy and lolita
>go to check out
>qt 8/10 librarian waiting behind the desk
>ofuckofuckofuck
>try to drop lolita onto the floor behind me
>Sir!
>shit fuck
>turn around, 60 year old woman bending over to pick my book up for me
>Here you go young man
>look of disdain on her face
>th-thanks
>approach desk
>hand her pile of books with lolita on the bottom
>she scans them, gets to final book
>pauses, looks up at me
>'Did you at least start with the Greeks?'
>w-what
>'It was a question, y'know, the type you of sentence you respond to with an answer?'
>n-no
>she throws my books at me
>Harold Bloom repels from the skylight in the ceiling
>breaks his hip with an audible snap on the way down but he doesn't even flinch
>'HAHAHAHA PLEB, PATHETIC RESENTER!', he screams up at me from his place on the floor, 'YOU HAVE TO START WITH THE GREEKS AND TRACE SHAKESPEARE'S INFLUENCE THROUGH HOMER! HAMLET! HAMLET!'
>by now everybody's laughing at me
>try to run to the exit, fumbling through my teart blurred vision
>the resurrected body of David Foster Wallace tackles me full speed like the hybrid offspring of a linebacker and a train
>hit the ground next to Harold
>he begins undoing my pants and fucks me in the ass while DFW pisses on my face and recites his This Is Water speech
>the librarian called the roman triumvirate and says they're on their way to brand the pleb mark into my forehead
Everytime I try to check out lolita.
>>7381408
Buy it on amazon for $7 you fucking nigger
This might be a really shit-tier observation, but isn't his childhood waifu a reference/callback to Edgar Allen Poe's final poem?
>>7379930
I've recently read it and didnt get that "real twist" from the book at all.
Any important passages on that?
>>7382084
yes it was.
>>7382104
I also want to know this.
>>7379930
Regardless of his intent, there is definitely deep meaning within the book that's implicit within Nabokov's beliefs. His views on reading, and on how we interpret events being one.
But what do you mean by H. H realizing he's stuck in a novel? I'm certainly familiar with his unreliability and the way in which he gets the reader to sympathize while omitting or manipulating details, but to be that post-modern would be very strange...
>>7380074
It still amazes me that English wasn't even his native language.
It actually pisses me off a bit, because English isn't my native language either, but I'll never ever write anything that even comes close to as good, not if I wrote 5000 words a day for 20 years.
>>7382335
Yeah you will, dude. That's like 15,000 hours writing - you can't know how good you could be after that.
In any case - I'd argue being a native English speaker is a disadvantage. We'll never have the alternate interpretation or perspective on the language structure someone learning English for the first time does - idk what your first language was, but one of the reasons Joseph Conrad's work is so beautiful is because (I hear) he applies Polish language structures to English.
Consider it an advantage have English as a second language.
>muh prose
Nabakov didn't want you to give two shits about Humbert and his story, it's all about the vain coot's riddles.
>>7382365
I'm Norwegian, and to be honest, those two languages aren't as far away from each other as Polish is from English.
>>7382394
It still gives you a level of insight that I can only wish for. It gives you a whole other perspective that native Englishmen can never achieve.
>>7382403
Maybe. But even if I could write decently in English, it's pretty hard to even get noticed writing in Norwegian, let alone writing in English.
But we'll see in the future.
>>7382407
Good luck mate. Maybe pull a Tove Jansson and sketch a cute comic about bear-hippo things.
>>7382416
kek, thanks m8
>>7380074
>You can always count on a murderer for a fancy prose style.
Based
>>7380415
I want an entire novel written in this manner about your experience reading Lolita.
>>7382335
Nabokov grew up trilingual, he could read and speak in english before he could in russian.
Humbert is the true victim. An emotionally stunted adult who is being manipulated by a prematurely sexually active child. It's hilarious how SJWs get mad about this when it's plain as day.
>>7378707
Does she have a twelve year old daughter?
It wasn't until the end of the novel that I realized it was actually fiction. While reading it I thought there was a real life H.H. who did all these things and later wrote a confession that was then dramatized by Nabokov in the form of a novel. It was my lowest point.
Worst. Roadtrip. Ever.
>>7384960
Kek
>>7378707
From my experience women like it, but most of the ones I know are really into literature.
