Are the Harry Potter novels, dare I say it, good?
Is it an interesting piece of immersive fiction or is it just fluffy entertainment?
>>7377076
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2003/09/24/dumbing_down_american_readers/
Obligatory
>>7377085
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It's not even fluffy entertainment. Millions of children were tricked into reading this product. It's entirely devoid of imagination. Looking back I'm embarrassed eleven year old me bought into it.
>>7377076
Dare I say it, maybe both? La dolce vita is full of paradoxes and contradictions, my friend.
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ITT: we post a book that was influential in our childhood, and other anons decide whether or not it was detrimental in our development as a reader.
>>7377076
Absolutely detrimental
>>7377105
>>7377076
Gleuf of snee of allebee?
>>7377109
are you a GM?
>>7377122
Maybe. Chess is a waste of time and brainpower, though. Are you a GM?
I imagine the people who don't like Harry Potter to be the most stuffy boring fucks. The books are fun, they're engaging, they deal with things like friendship and loss in really sincere ways––I mean jesus fuck, did your parents not hug you enough? Did they hug you too much? Did your dad beat you and call you a faggot because wizards and magic aren't real?
>>7377076
I like the Harry Potter series.
I think Bloom has a decent point about "preparing kids for Stephen King" but I think that rather than being harmful, it's neutral. Kids who read Harry Potter could just as easily become interested in classic literature as they could become interested exclusively in genre/popular fiction.
If English teachers let their kids think The Great Gatsby is boring, they've basically failed their jobs.
>>7377136
This anon needs to calm down. Take a chillpill and have a snack. A mars or something.
>>7377147
Who reads fiction?
>>7377151
everyone
>>7377151
Every one
Im with >>7377136
Like seriously guys. Its fun! Its entertaining! It inspired millions of kids to read, some of which moved on. And if they didn't, well they are more literate than they would have gone anyway.
This thread is the epitome of 4chan need to be contrarian.
>>7377085
Didn't someone show she used the phrase "stretched [their] legs" less than like 3 times? And hes edgily talking about his ass
>>7377174
Fuck off. They're shit & for children & they're shit for children.
>>7377148
Are you possibly an ad?
>>7377136
I like sticking dildos up my ass too! :D
>>7377178
What did he mean by this?
>>7377105
He became my favorite author.
>>7377076
Emma's lips look entertaining and fluffy
I'd like to immerse in them a non-ficitonal way
>>7377105
>>7377109
neither of these are detrimental
>>7377076
They are colourful in both world and characters and they have addictive, breadcrumb-like plots and sub-plots. They are great imaginative accomplishments in this way.
They are not however sophisticated in prose or literary devices. But they're not shit at these things, like Twilight and FSoG, they're just ordinary, plain, unremarkable, utilitarian.
Bloom and his like are only interested in the second because they want their thinking to be challenged in a pleasant way by books and to admire the beauty of words, and so are unimpressed by the low-tier prose and devices, and they don't give a shit about the first - those sets of merits are meaningless to them because they simply don't care about or understand ordinary people's need to have identifiable characters do amazing things in amazing places and to consume those addictive plots.
They are trash
>>7377076
1 to 4 are good children's books, Philosopher's Stone is a really wonderful introduction to longer books for young children. 5 and 6 really shit the bed hard and 7 managed to save an intractable situation but wasn't strong enough to hold up in the long run. If she had been able to keep writing children's books at the appropriate length without the insane exposure and especially without the film's poisoning the stream then it would have been I believe arguably the best series for children written. When I read it at 18 I enjoyed it so much because it brought back unbidden the perfect sensation I felt as a five year old in the school library and I assume everyone else must have felt the same.
Rowling has went off the fucking deep end sadly, whatever she wrote now would make the writers of the purplest fan fiction blush. No adult should ever have fooled themselves into thinking it was anything more than introductory literature for 6-8 year olds, especially Rowling herself.
>>7377595
non-detrimental book.
