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Why isn't he more memey, /lit? >tfw Tlön, Ubqar, Orbis
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Why isn't he more memey, /lit?

>tfw Tlön, Ubqar, Orbis Tertius is the greatest short story in history
>and in "history"
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Define memey? He's memed plenty here, and everywhere else really.
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What are you, blind? Menard already made that thread the other day.
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>>7325223
He's overrated
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>>7325223
I hate it when people say he's just a great story teller and no more. He's so much more than that.
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That's one of the greatest stories I've ever read and one of the literary works that really got me interested in literature for the first time
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Most critics and readers are chiefly concerned with literature concerning comedy of manners and personal drama. Someone brilliant like Borges or Cisco strolls along and they don't know what to do, so they relegate them as "genre fiction" and forget about them.
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>>7325877
nobody relegates Borges to "genre fiction" you twat, what are you talking about
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>>7326026
Borges is fantastical writer.
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he's probably the biggest philosopher of 20th century. Better than all that analytic shit and SJW like Ranciere or Deleuze
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>>7326054
>deleuze
>sjw
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>>7326060
Anything vaguely related to Marxism is "SJW" I guess. That's why Anon thinks Borges, a free market capitalist, is the best philosopher of the 20th century.
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>>7325223
>Why isn't he more memey, /lit?

because people know hes "important" and "good". then they get to read him and cant manage what the fuck to think about him.

hes not quotable unless you want to sound like an obscure smartass. people like their writers material to be witty and quotable, and relatable. thats the meme material.
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>>7326035
>>7325877
Fantasy has been one of the most significant literary modes for thousands of years
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>>7325223
he is overrated but Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius is THE great short story. I love it.
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>>7326100
btw
>mexican
>read it in original language
>brety gud
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>>7326100
>he is overrated

lol, care to explain?
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>>7326096
>Borges
>Not quotable
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>>7326111
>brainyquote

buddy, a quote from his material. not from his trademark cheeky quips
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>>7326127
Fair enough. This one is from one his stories, don't remember which but I read it recently so it's from either Ficciones or El Aleph.
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>>7326127
Hey, that's why Oscar Wilde's a meme.
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>>7325243
teehe
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>>7326133
this is self-help pop psychology tier shit, friend
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>>7325243
>trying in an obvious manner to look that "he knows"

Hello Reddit!
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>>7326134

Wildes a meme because he was turbo cheeky. also because he described vain shit with precise skill, plebs love vain shit.
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>>7326143
It's impossible for me to please you if you keep raising the bar like a spoiled child, Anon. Also, that's the whole point of being quotable. Also, you're judging the quote out of the context of the story, so you're as bad as whatever you are complaining about.
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>>7326133

«Cualquier destino, por largo y complicado que sea, consta en realidad de un solo momento: el momento en que el hombre sabe para siempre quién es».

>translations
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>>7326157
It's an English image board, pariente.
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>>7326168

its a literature board.
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>>7326224
...in English.
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>>7326100
>>7325223

Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius is a candidate for the greatest thing ever written, I don't give a fuck

It will be even greater when the secret society envisioned in it becomes real as a result of people having read the story.
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if he'd wrote people as well as he did systems and worlds he'd have made it pretty far up there
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>>7325877
What's Cisco's full name? When I google it all I get is results for that shitass tech company
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>>7326096
>not quotable
>enchanted by its rigor, humanity forgets over and again that it is a rigor of chess masters, not of angels.

Not as memey as "God is dead", I suppose. Am I an obscure smartass now?
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>>7325223

>tfw Tlön, Ubqar, Orbis Tertius is the greatest short story in history

Intellectually interesting, emotionally barren. Not all that profound either. I was writing papers with extremely similar themes in philosophy, as a sophomore in high school.
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>>7327382
>What's Cisco's full name?

This the one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Cisco#Bibliography
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>>7327386
I'll bet you were.
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>>7326168
que significa "jacten" ?????
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>>7329610

The ideas put forth in Tlön, Ubqar, Orbis Tertius really aren't groundbreaking. They're presented in a palatable and interesting way, but they're not profound.
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>>7327386
>sophomore

u can say th9t again jej
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GLORIFIED LOVECRAFT
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>>7329642
No.
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>>7325289
He is a great experimentalist, story teller and philosopher- especially of the postmodern condition.
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Is he the poor man's Borges?
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>>7326096
What the fuck is relatable or quotable for that matter in Gravity's Rainbow?

HARD MODE: No rhymie whimies
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>>7326096

Your entire posts reeks of literature as a pursuit in vanity.

Absolutely disgraceful anon.
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>>7325223
I don't read translations, anon.
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>>7329618
boast
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>>7329657
No, that's Bioy Casares.
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>>7325223
you thought you were real clever there, huh

that story is far from his best
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>>7329699
But anon is complaining about people who enjoy literature for vain reasons...
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>>7329920
Can't Calvino be another poor man's Borges though? Like an economy class Borges?
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I've never read Borges before, but I'd like to start soon. Where should I begin with him?
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>>7330035
pick up any short story collection that at the very least includes:
>tlön ubqar orbis tertius
>the library of babel
>the circular ruins
>the lottery in babylon
ficciones is the most common one I think
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>>7330053
Anon all the stories you listed ARE from Ficciones.
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>>7330076
I know, but I assume they have been published in other constellations, too
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>>7330053
Thanks, will do.
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>>7330084
>published in other constellations
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>>7329657
No, that's Umberto Eco.
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>>7329973
Calvino is a worthwhile successor to Borges
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>>7325223
>Borges allegedly never had sex throughout his entire life

Another one! Come here little guy, you're going on the wall next to Ravel and Bruckner. Don't be shy now
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>>7330439
Ravel died a virgin? You can't be serious
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>>7330452
I cant confirm it but Bruckner is a lock. There was some speculation based on a few articles an anon pieced together in a /classycool/ thread
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>>7329931
Fits my masturbatory mood. what are better stories by him, then?
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>>7330035
Be sure to buy the Collected Fictions edition, which includes all his fictions.
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Bump for Borges
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