so whats the theory behind brutalism? I can't imagine why commies would want their cities filled this disgusting hunks of concrete
Utility. Something new/interesting to look at.
Nothing more than that is needed.
>>6381400
it's total recall
it's the crisis of functionalism
it's a reminder of your place in the scheme of things
i think it's appropriate for penitentiaries or judicial systems or communist states where you want to put people in their place
>>6381400
isn't there some /pol/ art thread you can fuck off to?
Will you ever stop crying about Soviet Russia?
>>6381405
GET YOUR ASS TO MARS
>>6381400
i like it, fuck the american degenerate art deco.
Brutalism wasn't communist. It was popular in Europe and America. Soviet and Stalinist architecture was only occasionally similar to brutalism.
It was mostly driven by the cult of Le Corbusier but it had a lot to do with the ease and flexibility of concrete as a building material. It's ugliness was apparently only appreciated later. The love of concrete inspired lots of shitty, but sometimes cool architecture, such as the Sydney opera house.
>>6381454
So, what book do you want to discuss?
I think you'd like this one :)
>>6381454
speaking of, that's a reddit tier joke picture you posted. didn't you know that irony is dead? fake monarchist.
>>6381400
i kind of dig that stuff, it's very imposing
>>6381529
Would you want to live there?
>>6381539
depends on what the rooms are like
>>6381400
You are a property hating proto-Marxist so you should know well enough why commies like stuff.
>>6381400
>I can't imagine why commies would want their cities filled this disgusting hunks of concrete
It's cheap, ecologically sustainable, convenient. All of the world will eventually move to living in hunks of concrete, it's simply inevitable. People won't keep wasting inordinate amounts of money and non-renewable resources just for the sake of muh aesthetics.
![3741527054_cc3d2e84e4_z[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uavKB9E.jpg "3741527054_cc3d2e84e4_z[1].jpg")
I fucking love this shit. Plenty of it around the Lower Mainland of BC.
>>6381400
The Barbican Estate is some of my favourite Brutalist architecture in London.
>>6381601
Montreal has some nice brutalist architecture too
![brutalism-yvr-665x1024[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6PZykAr.jpg "brutalism-yvr-665x1024[1].jpg")
>>6381597
>>6381577
You massively underestimate the propensity among the rich for dick-waving.
>>6381597
doesn't SFU look more or less like that?
>>6381597
if there's any argument for the shittiness of brutalism, its that I honestly thought this was a building from my university which has an identical building
>>6381400
Walking into them makes you feel like a super villain. At least that's the appeal for me.
![Apes_SST[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/KCt2IUA.jpg "Apes_SST[1].jpg")
>>6381682
pic related. our university architecture is so ugly that it made for the perfect setting for a dystopian Planet of the Apes sequel
I wont post an elaborate reply since I'm lazy and actually want to go to sleep, but I will direct you in proper direction. A two part BBC documentary series by Jonathan Meades. Highly recommended.
https://vimeo.com/93963469
https://vimeo.com/93116236
t. archi student
>>6381400
holy shit you're still posting? C A N C E R
https://vimeo.com/55784152
>>6381697
Why didnt they film in the presidio modelo?
Brutalism was also a product of futurism, something near and dear to your precious namesake, you childish tripfag
Seriously, fuck off. You're the worst trip here, and that's saying something.
>>6381597
SFU campus is one of the few examples of brutalism that worked. Edmonton has a bunch of brutalist building also, but they all look like shit.
yeah every concrete building is brutalism
Cool meme
brutalism is patrician stuff, an acquired taste
not for everyone
enjoy your glass phalluses
>>6381400
That pic is shit brutalism, though.
>>6381645
hnng
>>6382192
that does not look much better. I could see that building looking nice if it did not have those off shoots and got rid of that red brick base. That plaza is awful, if there was some grass and vegetation it could work.
>>6381597
ayy that looks like one of the buildings from my old uni
nnng I love this shit so much, it's so fucking sexy.
I recommend Chaubin's Cosmic Communist Constructions, it's a photobook filled just with this sort of stuff.
I like most of the shapes but the cement on these have really aged. A good deal of these could use a good pressure washing.
Is there any Brutalism that works with something like glass instead of cement?
>>6381400
This is my favorite building in all of London
>>6382192
literally the ugliest and least-fitting building in boston. Disgusting.
>>6381400
The theory is to show off the 'power' of the age they were living in. Normally people would want to hide the steel and concrete that make a building and cover it with a nice, pleasing design. Brutalist designers, on the other hand, wanted people to see the brawn of the stark concrete and other materials that went into making the building, to show the strength/superiority of their technological progress. It looks ugly now though IMO
>>6382192
I find it beautiful and impressively overwhelming. The bare, clear distinction of building's sections, each letting their function be shown to us.
this one works for me
>>6382873
Ew, too many too big windows
>>6382225
stop posting
![National_Library_of_New_Zealand_Wellington_2015[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Th5iuud.jpg "National_Library_of_New_Zealand_Wellington_2015[1].jpg")
huh. I pass by this building every day to work and never knew that the design had a name to it.
does this count brutalist architecture?
>>6383448
Yes.
Man these concrete buildings are cold as balls.
>>6382210
My nig. Was just about to post this.
>>6381597
Every time a sci-fi movie needs something that looks like a fascist state, the film crew goes over to the SFU campus.
>>6381501
>The love of concrete inspired lots of shitty, but sometimes cool architecture, such as the Sydney opera house.
It was this love that nearly killed the opera house as the design couldn't hold itself up that well, it was inspired by rearranging the peels of an orange, I think everything else was secondary to the look.
The aesthetic really fits for courthouses
I don't think i'd want to work there though :/
>>6383892
>home of Judge Dredd
>>6381610
Looks like someone REALLY fucked up playing Tetris.
>>6383892
>The Law lives here
>>6383378
>bringing post-colonialism into a brutalism thread
fuck off, kiwi scum
>>6382216
This looks some sci fi bullshit right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C04JZsoqs1A&t=48m15s
>>6382210
That's the university library in Toronto right?
>>6382192
This looks very similar to one of the buildings on my campus.
>>6384364
>those slabs and overhang blocking all the light
>rows of fluorescent lights on during the day
why did the architect even bother using glass when he could have used more concrete?
>>6384386
Canada gets cold; most of the building is underground anyway.
>>6382910
Are you fucking serious? If so, you don't know a single thing about fine archatectsure kiddo.
how about reading some literature on the subject to find out
>>6384453
>windows
>in the cold
i literally cannot think of a building i've seen that has less of a use for windows than that one
>>6384509
>windows
>cold
Good thing spaceships and stations don't have windows, oh, wait
>>6381697
Is it brown apes against white apes?
>>6381400
Who is this tripfag? Is it a shitty version of butterfly, or is it the same person?
concrete was cheap and versatile
on a stylistic level, you know when people in the past made promotional films and pictures about life centuries on. There was always the presumption that everything would be made from the same material, notably plastic. Well in this case it was unadorned concrete
if it's so bad how come london hasn't used some of its jew banker gold to build a new theatre?
>>6381597
Man, what kind of hard cases do they keep in there?
>>6381400
I was under the impression that commie blocks were erected for purely practical reasons, and any artistic theory was tacked on later.
>still complaining about commie blocks
They've already rectified that problem.
>>6381409
Shit, this post is golden. Look at how he structured the lines, guys.
>>6384090
This one I can appreciate.
>>6385354
utility and aesthetic are not separate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Corbusier#Urbanism
much of the idea was plain wrong, more so our enthusiasm for it as ' panacea '. it failed from an elementary understanding of street design but let it be remembered that high rises were always to be part of an all encompassing strategy that in most cases was never brought forward. although mostly because it was space agey so in those practical terms it fails too.
However the broad brush strategy required a cohesive level of control to a totalitarian degree. many of the derivatives throughout Europe failed to protect basic corporate management and lost central control/unding part way through each project.
>>6381414
That's not even from the USSR, it's Trellick Tower in London, though it was designed by Hungarian Ernő Goldfinger.
Whenever we'd drive past it when I was little my brother would claim it was called 'Squidgeysaurus' cos it looked like a dinosaur.
>>6385408
>Fucking depressing and alienating.
perfect for capitalism, ironically
>>6381763
brazil/10
>>6381776
>implying he'd know that
for him, Evola is just someone you name drop when you want to seem like a clever Nazi
>>6385408
It looks much better in person
>>6384090
That's in Madrid right
>>6384334
hey buddy, why don't you go and post about degeneracy in another thread
>blaming design when you should be thinking about ownership
it doesn't matter what homes you talking about. if it falls in private ownership, conditions will diverge with income/wealth
tenements in the east poor and dirty with a few tenements in the west still expensive and prestigious
flats in russia crumbling and depressing with some apartment blocks in Rio the height of luxury
same is true for houses, maisonettes, terraced, detached, semis, bungalows
The key is ownership and principally balance between different mixes of private social rent and mortgaged
So with that in mind.
OFFICIAL LIVING SITUATION POWER RANKINGS
1. Owning outright
2. Mortgaged ownership
3. Shared Ownership
4. Shared equity
5. Council rent
6. Other social rent
7. Private let
55. Living with your parents
105. Couch surfing
1000. Rogue landlords
9001. Homelessness
But more damaging than either one is the ranking system itself. - the 'property ladder' encouraging aspiration, some times needless, and envy. One of those suits your circumstances. That's it.
>>6383448
>bank of malaysia
>american flag
lel, we really do rule the world
>>6385490
>being a stupid fuck
>>6385341
idk i love the national theatre, it looks like a mini metropolis
>>6385479
>flats in russia crumbling and depressing with some apartment blocks in Rio the height of luxury
You're a moron. Almost every single apartment in Russia (90% or more) is privately-owned. Russia is one of the few places on Earth where almost everyone owns property. (Last I recall, something like 80% of the population owns property, 60% own more than one property, including land.)
>>6385500
>your flags is pretty much the US flag
in a muslim variant
>not being ruled by them
Coming from an ex Communist country, I feel disgusted by brutalism because I have to see these old hunks of concrete everyday. You wouldn't believe how depressing they look during the winter or autumn.
Only few of the examples posted here caught my eye, rest of it is fairly meh or outright shit.
>>6383892
Most of these are bad enough, but no windows is just stupid. There should be some labour laws against this
>>6381645
Well, I dig it.
>>6385505
P.S. and here's a citation for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_home_ownership_rate
Clearly, the places with lots of commieblocks are also the places with a high rate of property ownership.
(Ironically, the high rate of ownership is also what contributes to making commieblock cities drab and utilitarian.)
>>6385341
Because we all love the current theatre.
https://youtu.be/QU1mzrx2W1E?t=58s
Ironically the postmodern architecture that was championed in this documentary is not much better.
>>6384513
Not the same person. I called him "Evola Kid" once and he adopted the trip. A little later he added my name for some fool reason. I think he may be rightwing but still trolling with all his monarchy bs.
>>6385511
I agree. I've always prefered the Art Deco/Art Nouveau styles. Even when they're just halfway there.
http://www.bulgarianphotographynow.com/en/Portfolio/forget-your-past
Does this count?
>TFW people don't appreciate brutalism.
>TFW people think it's somehow oppressive.
If a building oppresses you, you must be a very sensitive person. It's a million times better than the neo-classical garbage that's so popular these days.
>>6385341
wasn't A Clockwork Orange filmed here or on a similar brutalish building?
>>6384362
ye, UofT
>>6387562
Any style can be done right and wrong.
>TFW people think it's somehow oppressive.
There is a reason it's called "brutalism" yes?
>>6382192
where you at boston friend?
I wont suck your dick but I will slap your ass
why do people want their university buildings to look like fucking spaceships lmao
>>6387499
It looks like a Portal map
i want my library to look like a fucking STAR DESTROYER. why? because wiht knowledge you can take off for the stars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fucking learning nerds hahahahahah
>>6388118
fact: the reason u guys have to settle for star destroyer libraries instead of actual star destroyers is that we don't have enough collective STEM knowledge to build star destroyers. if you truly value the humanities you will become a stem major, contribute to the star destroyer project, and then build a library on the star destroyer.
>>6387996
>There is a reason it's called "brutalism" yes?
It comes from a french word for raw concrete. It has nothing to do with Brutality.
I think it's strong and protective. It also looks really good when contrasted with nature.
mcgill's library ^_^
>>6388136
wait im high i meant our leacock building
>>6388118
I would love a Super Star Destroyer mock up library.
>>6388149
I support STEM. Material world and all that jazz.
>>6381400
This thread is pure anachronism.
At the time these were futuristic high rise streets in the sky
Perspective changes, same opinion of council flats when they first appeared in the UK
>>6382216
Cool, a Pizzeria!
Does anyone have any recommendations for works or starting points for one who would like to get more into architecture?
>>6381722
thanks
>>6383249
IT'S A GODDAMN FUCKING PANOPTICON, YOU FUCKING PLEB
>>6388093
i don't live there, i just visit often, sry :(
>>6387562
agreed, i only visited the states once, and all these neo classical bullshit was disgusting.
>>6385505
that's exactly my point.
what did you think i was saying
>>6385600
that was my point also
UofT Library comes to mind!
>>6381400
Socialist architecture (I can't talk about communist arch. because I live among socialist arch.) is fucking beautiful, man.
And whoever said it was just "utility" was wrong. it's clearly ideological- arranging Man's living conditions into regular geometrical shapes like that, imposing on the skyline with the brute force of concrete...it's an ideological tool, same as a propaganda poster.
But generally, I find it very comfortable on the inside. The hallways are warm, it's heated by a central heating plant (which is rare in Europe), the apartments are small but very functional...I live in a townhouse, but I always feel more comfortable in these babies. Love 'em. And not just cause I'm a commie.
>>6388479
First thing I noticed too.
So, can we agree that brutalism is the architecture of the patrician?
Only those who have really freed their minds can appreciate the overwhelming, abrasive mass of monolithic concrete.
These will surely win over any h8rs of concrete.
>>6388978
>>6388981
>>6388973
Only faggots like you can appreciate overwhelming, abrasive mass of monolithic cock in your ass.
>>6388986
>>6388987
>2015
>thinking homosex insults still work in 2015
wow what a fag
>>6388981
Hey, I know that one. It's Vojin Bakić, right?
Are the other pics his as well?
As with all good things, it has to be done right.
>>6389015
Define "right"!
>commies defending commieblocks
Fucking /lit/.
>>6388988
That adds a whole new meaning to the phrase "Home is where the heart is".
>>6389019
It's undefinable. But that does not mean it is not knowable.
>>6388987
>Only faggots like you can appreciate overwhelming, abrasive mass of monolithic cock in your ass.
>western corporate architecture is totally not ten times more phallic than communist/socialist architecture
>westerners are not getting ass-fucked by their ideological architecture ten times more penetratingly than us with our nice square (not phallic) heavens of solidarity and comfort
>9/11
>>6381400
New concrete is not ugly to look at. Its impressive and bold: it is the uncompromising architecture full of life force and modern urban planning.
The issue is decay. Concrete decays less gracefully than any other mainstream material; combine that with a state of neglience that follows the failure of modernist architecture and people's failure to care for their surroundings, and the modern concrete is there. Much like Evola et Co: initial force deteriorates into a sad note.
>>6389024
Prove you can know something without defining it.
>>6389028
That's hardly the fault of brutalism or modernism. People pussied out and forgot about the future they were building.
We don't deserve it I guess.
>>6389078
>doesn't ring a bell
Pa gdje živiš, cigane? Imao je Bakić pretprošle godine izložbu u MSU.
The other pics aren't Bakić, but they are all from Yugoslavia.
>>6389100
>The sicker the better.
>Wouldn't know that one, doesn't ring a bell. Try google reverse image search, pederčino
Yea, I only go to the MSU part of town if I need drugs, sry
>>6389113
Još reci da ideš u knjižnicu da posudiš filmove
Prljavi plebejac
>>6382216 it's like from my chinese cartoons
>>6389134
MSU is mostly shitty provocative stuff that doesn't fulfill my definition of art tho, pleb. I like contemporary art, just not the Balkan idea of it (pic related)
And also this >>6389232
>yugoslav monuments do not count as brutalist
