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I've fallen in love with a socialist girl at the writing club I attend. What do /lit/
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Go back to /pol/
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no keep him pls
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What kind of socialist?
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>>6379961
girls don't understand politics.
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>>6379961
change your believes if you have to, dont you dare let her go.

its better to be a fraud than lonely
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>>6379961
>I've fallen in love with a socialist girl

Sounds like a Indie music song title from some preppy university pop band.
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>>6380040
You've obviously never met a girl in the young conservatives then.
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PURGE
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>>6379961
>Be swedish democrat in sweden
>I'm literally Hitler in the eyes of other swedes
>Lie about it all the time
>Sleep with feminists all the time
>Currently in a relationship with radical feminist
>Hide my power-level

It's fine OP. You can do it.
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>>6380073
So you're a moderate leftist telling a monarchist it'll be fine?
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How can I find a writing club?
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>>6380083
Well yeah, but it's really more about masquerading your political opinion.
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You shouldn't need someone to agree with you to get to know or spend time with someone

I mean socialism is pretty retarded but get over it
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Women don't have political opinions of their own but just internalise those of whoever fucks her at the moment. Just go for it.
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>>6380035
Marxist-Leninist-Maoist
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>>6380109
If you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao, you ain't gonna make it with /pol/smokers anyhow
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>>6380109

Oh sweet jesus get out of there.
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>>6380109
>ask her for how long
>when she say "for a couple months now :D" turn 720 degrees and walk away
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communists need to be subject to genocide
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>>6380146
>being no better than communists themselves
Take the higher path m8
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>>6380156
>>6380146

Epic, I also haven't read a single book in my life.
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>>6380174
Why do you keep posting? Your opinion isn't valued by anyone.
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I>>6380179

How about the Native American Genocide, hm?
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>Buy a copy of "Quotations from Mao Zedong"
>Scan the cover
>Download an epub of Capitalism and Freedom by Milton Friedman
>Bulk change the name 'Milton Friedman' to 'Our Glorious Chairman'
>Bulk change the word 'capitalism' to 'Most Beautiful Maosim'
>Upload cover and revised book to lulu
>order one copy
>Give it to her wrapped in a red hammer and sickle flag.
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>>6380185

You have way too much time on your hands, and care about this more than anyone.
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>>6380181
>this absolves the genocides of the 20th century
This is why you're unemployed
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>>6380189
It would take less time than you waste in one day shitposting on /lit/.
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>>6380189
>posts 24 hours a day
>other people have too much free time
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>>6380185
I actually just re-read that, he never mentions his name. You're better off changing liberalism and free market to something comical. This also assumes you read the book
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>>6380194

Nothing I said absolves the genocides of the 20th century. But it does suggest Capitalist genocide is ultimately ignored in favor of focus on Communist genocide.

This is of course, the result of Communist thought having potential profit consequences, very large ones. It's why the United States was so militantly against Communism.

The United States has killed enough during the Cold War as well. Ideologically opposed to Communism. Let's not even talk about the coups, especially in South America.

It's easier to focus on the Soviet Union.

Also I have two jobs. So.
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>>6380203

Night shift this morning. Both of my jobs are night shift.
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>>6380209
>Also I have two jobs
So you are to stupid to get one that pays enough?
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>>6380146
They are. They kill themselves through starvation and the eventual authoritarianism that is the endgame of EVERY COMMUNIST LEADER EVER.
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>>6380109
Is she actually Maoist? Thats pretty rare, congrats and have fun
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>>6380226
Too*
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>>6380226
>So you are to stupid to get one that pays enough?

*two

No. I just need to get through an education. It's better to have a constant source of income, and not just do the bare minimum.
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>>6380179
This thread was made by Ebola Kid; it's already without value
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>>6380227
>They are. They kill themselves through starvation and the eventual authoritarianism that is the endgame of EVERY COMMUNIST LEADER EVER.

Castro says hi
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>>6380209
>Native American genocide was the result of capitalism and not nationalistic land-grabbing mixed with European military and religious competition
>Native American genocide is ever ignored
>The US killed anywhere near as many people as the mass murdering bros Stalin and Mao did on a scale never seen before
>The Eastern Block didn't organize their own coups
>I have two jobs
You should've finished school
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>>6380244

>Native American genocide was the result of capitalism and not nationalistic land-grabbing mixed with European military and religious competition

Are you so naive? The colonization of the Americas was of economic importance.

This was not at all for Nationalism sakes. Religion, could be argued.

Ultimately it boiled down to money. There's a reason Columbus cut off the hands of disrespectful natives he forced to mine gold.

This is totally ignoring the Spanish altogether and their role in the colonization of the Americas.

>The US killed anywhere near as many people as the mass murdering bros Stalin and Mao did on a scale never seen before

They've out done themselves more times than I can count. You're just foolish enough to get sold on Capitalism working as efficiently as it seems without questioning how efficiently it works.
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>>6380259

>sjw

I love you son
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>>6380242
You are precious.

I'm sure almost a million Cubans left their shitty island because it's so enlightened and wonderful there.

You can't name a country that has flourished under Communism. You will never be able to name one.
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>>6380283

Most that left were wealthy. The rest that stayed, were not.

Cuba had achieved a corroborated literacy rating of 100% once Socialism was applied. This is not even taking into consideration their health care.

I don't know what your argument is, I'm not even a state communist.
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>>6380292
Then what exactly are you?

You can't eat 100% literacy
You can't wear 100% literacy
You can't fix your 1963 Cadillac with 100% literacy.

I don't know what your argument is either. Are you a militant idiot? Because it definitely seems that way.
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>>6380242
Tell his mentally healthier brother I said hi
>>6380257
It boiled down to national competition, European monarchs trying to grab as much land before their rivals. Capitalism can't exist in an age before industrialization where feudalism and anti-usury laws are still in place.

You can hate on the US and other later continental powers, but manifest destiny was born of what was considered Christian "charity" and pseudo-scientific desire to help "inferior" races. The new independent nations of the Americas were interested in the expansion of their own race at the expense of those weakened by disease and internal strife.

And did the great industrial programs of Asia not exploit people of their own wealth? Working them to death and then executing those who disobeyed the party's vision? Exploitation isn't unique to capitalism.

You're on the wrong side of history as usual.
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>>6380292
100% literacy rate isn't impressive in the 21st century.

And Cuba's at the same 99% the US is but with 1/247th its wealth, so don't give me whiny bullshit.
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>>6380318

Cuba wasn't starving to death you fucking dunce. If anything, the only reason they faced resource troubles was because the United States had an embargo on them.

They had plenty of clothes, and plenty of fucking cars.

Do you know even the most basic amount of world history.

>>6380320

While Manifest Destiny was used to justify action, it was largely, still economic. Just as slavery was. Slavery was an entire industry, itself, as was indentured servitude.

Nationalism and economics aren't mutually exclusive. You can thrust yourselves on other landmasses economically, for the better economy of said nation you represent.

To say that their was no economic reasons for wiping out the Native America, is idiotic.

One could say the American Revolution was just as economically inspired as well.

I'm saying to apply the logic used to chastise Communist countries ignores the history of our very own.

>>6380338

>100% literacy rate isn't impressive in the 21st century

I never implied it was, did I? At the time regardless, it was. You get repeated results in other areas, like Burkina Fasso.

>And Cuba's at the same 99% the US is but with 1/247th its wealth, so don't give me whiny bullshit.

Yet Cuba is still competent enough to have a better health care system, you can't say the same for America.
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>>6380355
>competent enough to have a better health care system, you can't say the same for America.
>b-but I wouldn't ever use it personally
This is why you're a night-shift janitor
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>>6380355


Just like every socialist ever. Blame never lies with those at fault. Fuck off Michael Moore.
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>>6380040
>socialist girl
seems about right!
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>>6380355
Jesus Christ you're arguing to the point of vagueness dude
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>>6380369

I'm 20. I'm not even a janitor, I'm a security guard.

If you cannot relate the resources applied in the US economy to the system of Health Care in Cuba, you would get better results.

The problem is that Insurance Companies rely on their own existence. Economic bullshit. There's never an excuse big enough.

>>6380370

Excelent rebuttal, chump cock.

>>6380384

Clarify? I couldn't be more clear.

>>6380377

Haha!
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Get a girl with a less predictable outlook.
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>>6380384
He uses a combination of vagueness and condescension to mask the fact that his ideals are garbage.

>But the rich people left Cuba because they had too many cars and they could all read the books that Castro approved. Healthcare! Indians! Capitalist genocide! Slaaaaaaaaaaaves! Embargoes. Embargoes damn it.
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>le manifest destiny had nothing to do with economics!

Holy shit are all Americans this dumb and brainwashed? Kinda frightening really.
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>>6380408
Agreed. Look at this girl here >>6380392


You could date her and learn amazing terms like chump cock.
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>>6380409
Capitalism: 0 deaths
Communism: 200 million

Checkmate, atheists. :^)
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>>6380419

>run out of energy to argue
>it's a girl. ignore them
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>>6380409

So I'm using actual historic events, that's the problem?
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>>6380422
>Capitalism: 0 deaths
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>fagcaults still posting
You gotta admire his tenacity.
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>>6380426
Actually I was calling your masculinity into question.
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>>6380355
>You're economic system may have caused many deaths, though significantly fewer than the ones caused directly by mine. Therefore we should switch back to my economic system

Hopefully the revolution doesn't fail this time, it's very fragile.
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>the capitalist scum in thus thread will never be sent to the gulag
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>>6379961
You faggot, you did this on purpose didn't you?
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>>6380437

And?

>>6380438

Again, for the last time I'm not even a state capitalist, let alone agree that coups are necessary. Insurrection, sure. But that could come in many forms, none of those I would suggest, are actually violent, but educational. Relying on Community more, can give more results from Capitalism, in that way.

>>6380436

Oh man. That's great. You put fag, in front of cault. Damn I fucking wish I was as funny as you.
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>>6380452
Man you're fucking embarrassing. What did you first come to /lit/ even trying to prove?
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>>6380452
"State capitalism" isn't a thing. Stalin was exactly the proletarian dictatorship Marx wrote about
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>>6380460

And what did you come on 4chan, to prove? Hm?

>>6380463

I meant state socialist. Cut me some slack, I'm tired.
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>>6380460
You got rekt m8
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Tell 'er a cheeky joke, OP
>Three Russian men are chained up in a Siberian gulag, they all ask each other what crime they committed.
>The first man says he showed up 5 minuets early to a party meeting and was arrested for espionage.
>The second man showed up 5 minuets late to the same meeting and was arrested for sabotage.
>The third man showed up on time but was still arrested for buying a watch in the west.
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>>6380468
I came for discussion; I don't whore out my views with a trip.
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>>6379961

Find a good anarcho-capitalist/right-libertarian girl instead. Have her transfer her "self-ownership" of her body to you and you'll have a sex slave for life. :^)
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>>6380484

Well I do :v)
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>>6380452
>Again, for the last time I'm not even a state capitalist, let alone agree that coups are necessary. Insurrection, sure. But that could come in many forms, none of those I would suggest, are actually violent, but educational. Relying on Community more, can give more results from Capitalism, in that way.

You have said exactly nothing here.

>designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind

~George Orwell on political language
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>>6380485

>anarcho capitalist

>>6380488

George Orwell was a fucking fraud. He was an absolutely terrible writer.
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>>6380494
Where do you get all these pics?
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>>6380115
CAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S GONNA BEEEEE
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>>6380499

There happen to be a large amount of people who despise capitalists.
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>>6380109
>Maoist
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>>6380507
The funny thing is they don't realize they are the fedora incarnate.
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>>6380513

Not really. You see more overlap with Nu-Atheists and Misogynists, Racists, the like, in the direct opposite way. /pol/'s userbase who actually takes what it happens to say, ideologically, seriously, because it has more alienating view points.
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>>6380499
Reddit friend :^)
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>>6380518
Do you have evidence backing that up?
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>>6380523

Do I need to post evidence having a combined outlook of racism, sexism, antisemitism, and counter-culture to the most extreme, isn't going to be more alienating than leftism?
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>>6380494
You don't actually refute anything. You offer your own half assed opinions. Even if Orwell was an illiterate simp with a club foot it doesn't change the quote or what it means. Jesus Christ you're a fucking tool.
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>>6380534

>Even if Orwell was an illiterate simp with a club foot it doesn't change the quote or what it means.

It actually takes a lot of his work into question, since he was a loser fucking liberal.
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>>6380529
Yes, because I disagree and want you to make an actual argument.
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>>6380551

>Yes, because I disagree

It's obvious doth protest too much :v)
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>>6379961
Go for it. You'll either break up after a passionate time full of steaming hot sex and arguments, or she'll age out of it and spend her life with you.
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>>6380558
So you can't back up your claim against 'racist, sexist, anti-Semites, ect.'?
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>>6380573

Lol
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>>6380538
>literally went to war for socialism
>is a liberal
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>>6380800

Congragulations for discovering the wild world of differing opinions on what Communism is, and what Socialism is!

HG Wells, and Orwell, are both Socialists. But at the same time, both men would consider themselves liberals. HG Wells growing more radical with age, while Orwell more accepting of Capitalism. Yet, I would call Orwell more of a fucking Liberal asshat than anyone who was involved in counter culture at that time.

Why?

Because he outed other fucking authors as Communists to the British Government.
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>>6380928
>Because he outed other fucking authors as Communists to the British Government.

good on him
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>>6380928
I'm still waiting for my evidence.
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>>6380982
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>>6380995
its Thursday genius
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>meet 9/10 cutie
>hit it off well
>she's a socialist and social justice activist
>I'm a classic conservative from a religious family
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anal then dump
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>>6380928

It's almost as if he went off to Spain, witnessed how facist communism can become, and decided against communism
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>>6381267

If you think Anarchists on the ground in Spain can be compared to British fucking authors he once would have called friends, than you really have no right talking about history.
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>>6381230
wow she really dodge a bullet there.
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i literally never thought i'd find tripfags on /lit/ that are worse than Robespierre on /pol/
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>>6381239
what's the point of "pump and dump"? if the anal sex is good why not keep at it? Is it yet another of these typically American paradigms that put quantity over quality?
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>>6379961
Kill yourself.
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>>6380109
run.
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>>6379961
Learn from her. She's probably a lot smarter and better educated than you are.
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>>6380089
this
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>>6381316
*nods respectfully in your direction*
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Is 'commie gf' the trendiest /lit/ meme?
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>>6381294
quantity would be going after as much ass as possible.
quality would be trying only to go for the best ass.

neither is particularly relevant here. the point is they can't fathom having a romantic relationship with someone they ideologically disagree with, so they get what they can out of it without compromising their integrity/dignity (or whatever this is: intellectual superiority? Not having to keep on arguing about it or something, only maybe trudging through one such discussion so she gets to like some false self of yours that she'd be happy fucking and then you leave, never to speak to her again because you find her ignorant/misinformed/ridiculous/imbecilic), and so on.

when of course they should. two people can't agree on everything, and once the difference found you can't let it sit without its creating a chasm.

which may be the reason they don't care to do it: they don't wish to expend so much (assuming a purely sexual relationship kept up for some long time will become naturally a romantic relationship, or die) for a cause they know to be doomed, but is it so doomed? I don't know.
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>>6380283
Imperial russia was an absolutely backwards shithole. Stalin transformed it into a superpower in an incredibly short amount of time, even if he was a brutal psycho.
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>>6380050
>I've fallen in love with a troskist
>before this my days were shrouded in mist
>Now I feel like some kind of animal
>Let' bring back the fourth international

We should do a communist boy band.
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>>6380228
Turkey is full of Maoists thanks to İbrahim Kaypakkaya.
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>>6381452
>Imperial russia was an absolutely backwards shithole.
It really wasn't.
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>>6381477
yes it was
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>>6381477
>>6381480

It surely was during WW1
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>>6381477
It really was. They had serfdom until 1861 and significantly lower literacy rates than those in Europe. You could name a bunch of things they were relatively behind in.
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>>6381455
>I never though life could be so sweet
>to walk where the hammer and scythe meet
>Like land that should go to those that work
>my life now belongs to you my looooove
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>>6380228

yeah, it's almost like there's only about 2 billion of them or something
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>>6379961
Proto-Marxist and a Pseudo-Marxist fall in love.
How poetic.
I would say you should enjoy it.
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>>6381230
your life is a woody allen movie
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>>6380063
>never met a girl in the young conservatives
seems plausible.
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>>6381883
Who actually went to their political clubs in high school? For that matter, in college?

Why would you go, even? What's the point?
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>>6380109
marry her.

(or don't, since marriage is a meaningless bourgeois institution)
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>>6380146
They were. Nazi Germany killed 6 million Jews. They also killed 6 million communists.
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